Something's Happening Here $bomb/PUSH - Civil Liberties, Indefinite Detention, Patriot Act

[sailingaway]

mstrmac1 in another thread suggested this as not responding to the media's witch hunt, but returning to Ron's narrative in an upbeat way.

I think it is a terrific idea.

In my mind, at least, the videos write them selves. This song:



The scrolling text of the indefinite detention language and section number, the patriot act dilution of the probable cause standard for warrants and ability to confront your accusers to defend your privacy, FISA....

It is an energizing theme. They are trying to connect Ron with racism to drain supporters of energy and depress turn out of the young particularly. We need to remind them of what we are fighting for, and there is only one candidate whom we can trust to address this.

Thoughts?

Obviously, we want to be sure not to send out a conspiracy theory vibe. We're saying this is indecent, not watch out for FEMA coffins

But no other candidate is scratching this itch.

 

[afwjam]

Sounds good to me! We need to jive the other way on this newsletter thing after thinking about it....

 

[agorist ninja]

I love this. Great idea for a moneybomb. It has such wide appeal.

Civil liberties been trampled on every day. Militarization of the police. Free speech stifled. Patriot Act/NDAA.

This could be big. Like really big.

 

[sailingaway]

I love this. Great idea for a moneybomb. It has such wide appeal.

Civil liberties been trampled on every day. Militarization of the police. Free speech stifled. Patriot Act/NDAA.

This could be big. Like really big.

I agree, and it is sort of a public service announcement at the same time -- to people who aren't following this stuff. It sure isn't discussed much in major media. And from the concerns I've seen in Ron's townhalls in New Hampshire, it will go over well in the Live Free or Die state.

 

[lakerssuck92]

January 11th - Reagan Freedom Moneybomb on day Reagan gave farewell address.

What do you all think?

 

[agorist ninja]

I agree, and it is sort of a public service announcement at the same time -- to people who aren't following this stuff. It sure isn't discussed much in major media. And from the concerns I've seen in Ron's townhalls in New Hampshire, it will go over well in the Live Free or Die state.

Are the future MB themes already planned out?

Because this is exactly the type of message that could further propel Ron upwards in the polls. This song really makes the videos so incredibly easy. Wow.

Awesome job thinking this up, sailingaway.

 

[agorist ninja]

January 11th - Reagan Freedom Moneybomb on day Reagan gave farewell address.

What do you all think?

Nooo. We want to expand the base. That theme would turn many away.

It's why I was skeptical about the Tea Party theme. Even though it was very successful, it was still aimed at a very specific group.

Sailingaway's idea is more along the lines of the Black This Out campaign, which was insanely cool, edgy, and practically wrote itself.

 

[sailingaway]

January 11th - Reagan Freedom Moneybomb on day Reagan gave farewell address.

What do you all think?

I like tying something to Reagan for a future money bomb, but we are in part trying to counter the weight of this 'racist' nonsense on people newly attracted to Ron and less sure, that would be cross over voters and the young, who don't as much identify with Reagan because they have heard mixed stuff about him, but would identify with these issues. They are just trying to depress turn out with those who were doing it as an objection but don't have as much of a stake in Ron, per se. We need to remind them of the issues Ron stands for, not of Reagan.

 

[afwjam]

That song was released on January 9th 1967. Maybe that would serve well as the date? After Iowa and the day before New Hampshire. Might be the perfect time momentum wise.... Its a good short song that can be used to make videos with many different themes.... I am really warming up to this idea!

 

[sailingaway]

That song was released on January 9th 1967. Maybe that would serve well as the date? After Iowa and the day before New Hampshire. Might be the perfect time momentum wise.... Its a good short song that can be used to make videos with many different themes.... I am really warming up to this idea!

spectacular idea.

 

[sailingaway]

Are the future MB themes already planned out in advance?

Because this is exactly the type of message that could further propel Ron upwards in the polls. This song really makes the videos so incredibly easy. Wow.

Awesome job thinking this up, sailingaway.

I hope it catches on, it is a driver for me, for certain, but everyone here has their own hot buttons. We should add TSA too, of course.

 

[isrow]

I started a thread to suggest a MB based on RP's money quote "I understand how the system works" but it fell off the front page http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...em-works-quot-moneybomb&p=3899105#post3899105. I think we need to focus on RP's message and fixing the system. These are all great ideas now let's pull it together.

 

[mstrmac1]

LOVE IT! RUN WITH IT! LET ME KNOW HOW I CAN HELP.

 

[afwjam]

I started a thread to suggest a MB based on RP's money quote "I understand how the system works" but it fell off the front page http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...em-works-quot-moneybomb&p=3899105#post3899105. I think we need to focus on RP's message and fixing the system. These are all great ideas now let's pull it together.

That could easily be a theme of a video... The beauty of this moneybomb theme is the ability to apply it to all injustices, anybody could make a video with that song....

 

[mstrmac1]

FURTHERMORE.... WE HAVE NEVER ADDRESSED OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES BEING TAKEN FROM US...IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO EXPOSE, THE PATRIOT ACT, INDEFINITE DETENTION, THE FED, ETC... I THINK IT OUR BEST IDEA YET!!!! SOMEONE GET MOVING ON THIS.

WHO WILL MAKE THE VIDEOS?
WHO WILL START THE FACEBOOK PAGE?
WHO WILL MAKE THE WEB PAGE?
WHO WILL HELP SPREAD THE MONEY BOMB?

GET MOVING....

 

[Carole]

Just a thought. Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us, too, in his farewell speech, of the military-industrial complex. Maybe this information might be useful in this moneybomb promotion.

Maybe excerpts also from Reagan's Goldwater speech.

 

[sailingaway]

FURTHERMORE.... WE HAVE NEVER ADDRESSED OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES BEING TAKEN FROM US...IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO EXPOSE, THE PATRIOT ACT, INDEFINITE DETENTION, THE FED, ETC... I THINK IT OUR BEST IDEA YET!!!! SOMEONE GET MOVING ON THIS.

WHO WILL MAKE THE VIDEOS?
WHO WILL START THE FACEBOOK PAGE?
WHO WILL MAKE THE WEB PAGE?
WHO WILL HELP SPREAD THE MONEY BOMB?

GET MOVING....

I don't actually know how to make videos (I can edit some but not download) but I could pull together clips and look up the section and text of the indefinite detention language and debunk the notion being sent around that that one sentence excepting US citizens from only ONE of the provisions applied across the board.

I don't know who has the BTO moneybomb web page but didn't we talk about reusing that at one point? Could we use it again? Would that be dusman? I'd hope we'd have some excitement for this issue from some of our good video makers (rather than going with a novice effort), but maybe the day before Christmas isn't the best time to expect people on here to start a project.

What avatars?

(Mine actually kinda still works, and since this issue is being blacked out....)

 

[mstrmac1]

Can you get a hold of Dusman...or qwerty? They seemed to have taken the lead on all other MB's... they already have the system down to a science. Maybe private message them.

 

[agorist ninja]

I don't actually know how to make videos (I can edit some but not download) but I could pull together clips and look up the section and text of the indefinite detention language and debunk the notion being sent around that that one sentence excepting US citizens from only ONE of the provisions applied across the board.

I don't know who has the BTO moneybomb web page but didn't we talk about reusing that at one point? Could we use it again? Would that be dusman?

I'm out of the loop when it comes to who runs the moneybombs as well, but we gotta get them on board with this idea. Time is precious if we want it in place for NH.

 

[sailingaway]

Can you get a hold of Dusman...or qwerty? They seemed to have taken the lead on all other MB's... they already have the system down to a science. Maybe private message them.

I'll pm dusman.