Something to expect in the US if RP doesn't win...

Have you guys watched that Zeitgeist movie on google? My mom forwarded it to me ... this after I had converted her to support RP instead of Fred Thompson (ugh). Part 3 is all about economics ... I knew most of the stuff already, but it is packaged pretty well. I haven't watched parts 1 or 2, which seem to be some kind of religious conspiracy stuff / 911 conspiracy stuff. I'm not a rabid follower of any of that stuff, but the financial stuff really hits home.
 
I saw part 3 and i want to buy airtime on tv to air it so many others can see it. the things they didnt teach you in high school... because who decides what uniform set of books you read?
 
Why are the Brits letting this happen? They need to take their country back too.

Like I said: people are more interested in Pop Idol (the precursor to American Idol), Britney Spears and Paris Hilton. That there is the problem folks!! And it's the same here. Which is why we need to get out and "educate" people as much as we can.

Don't forget, the Brits don't have a single real codified consititution like the US does though it does have the Magna Carta and 1689 Bill of Rights. However, people don't know as much about them over there so they are less likely to stand up for their rights as Americans are. Also, as far as I know, there are no politicians like RP over there.
 
OMG...Is there any police-state, globalist policy that people WONT SUPPORT in EU/UK???

I think pretty much most of them. It's just that over there, people elect in the politicians, then the politicians do whatever they like, whether the people object or not. One high court judge over there once said Britain is an "electoral dictatorship" - he was exactly right!!
 
The reason governments like Tony Blair's can get away with crap like this is because the sheeple are more concerned with what's happening on the latest edition of Pop Idol or what's going on in Britney Spears' or Paris Hilton's life.

What's funny about that is that Paris Hilton thinks the coverage of Paris Hilton is ridiculous when so many more important things are going on. :D
 
Maybe we should all vote democrat until the government goes bankrupt. Libertarians and free markets always win in the end, because everything else goes broke.

To do that is to ignore the fact that government always runs the largest deficits under republican administrations, - Reagan, Bush I, Bush II. The bigger the debt, the more profits to the Federal Reserve. That's why they do it. They just lie better. ;)
 
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This is really our best hope, if things go south. GET ELECTED INTO YOUR STATE LEGISLATURES. There, we have a much better chance of fighting the Feds. I don't think there will ever be another Civil War type event - so they would be unlikely to try to use force. A strong state response to "illegal" Fed activity would give them a lot of pause, and provide a big groundswell for support of states rights as well. And bring this country back to where it was supposed to be.

Though I don't agree that a spiraling down into violent conflict at home is impossible, I agree completely that the states must begin to assert their constitutional rights and prepare for the event of a state-by-state cessession movement. There is an all out war on the constitution and national sovereignty. We might lose the federal government, but we could save the states and then re-group at that level and try to run the world government out again. They are heavily armed and will never hesitate to brutalize anyone anywhere anytime. Americans must wake up to this. The American superiority complex is it's achilles heel.
 
Things I expect if Dr. Paul does not win:

National ID cards (very soon after elections)

Gov't control of the internet (Very soon after elections)

Military draft (Medium term, done as the US continues to stir up trouble around the globe. Initially there will be some protest, perhaps even sporadic violence.)

Borders sealed (medium term - once the state realizes Americans are actively leaving the country, then they will seal the borders. It will never be done to keep people OUT - it will be done to lock people IN.)

Economic collapse (longer term)

Balkanization (longer term, triggered by the economic collapse)

That is the "Lite" version of how I see it, but I agree with you entirely.
 
Excellent point. Below is a link to a video titled "The real face of the european union" This is a very scary look at what we have in store for us. England's soverignty has been been completely taken over. I was shocked when I watched this video. I had no idea the extent of control that the "union" wields over a country. Watch this docuementary and have your eyes opened. VERY SCARY STUFF

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...503&start=0&num=30&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Wow. Thanks for posting that movie link AZJV. I hadn't seen that before. All Americans need to watch that to know what the NAFTA and CAFTA have in store for them.
 
My car is going to start just fine without a GPS or national ID card.

What if they won't let you fuel without one of them?
 
they will try to hold us hostage with the national id card. making it law to prove your citizenship to make an essential purchases
 
My car is going to start just fine without a GPS or national ID card.

What if they won't let you fuel without one of them?

Yeah things are not always that simple. First of all, when I said GPS devices, I didn't mean the fancy Garmin type things that display maps and help you find where you're going. They're talking about a "black box" that sits on the dash and tracks where you go. Instead of paying the 42 cents (or whatever) tax on a gallon of gas, you pay X amount per mile - the X being based on the type of road and how busy it is.

Now, I'm guessing that cops would be on the look out for vehicles that don't have the black box on the dash or there will be be some technological manner in which a cop driving nearby can determine if you're a "tax dodger". They can already do this in the UK with car insurance whereby the cop car driving behind you scans your license plate and automatically checks against a giant database to see if your insurance coverage is current and valid - I only found out about this when my dad told me he'd been pulled over - his insurance company had somehow not updated the record in the giant DB in time.

So I suppose they could scan your license plate as you're driving and determine the following:

1] You are insured
2] You have a valid MOT (inspection)
3] You have valid road tax / registration
4] Your black box is valid and working properly
5] The vehicle's registered owner is not on some "wanted" list

Also, just a note about the Hummer vs Hybrid thing and what is "fair". You have to remember that gasoline/road usage taxes are voluntary. There is nobody forcing you to own a vehicle, drive and pay those taxes. Therefore, the type of vehicle you drive is also voluntary - if driving a Prius gives some kind of "tax break" in that respect then that's simply encouraging people to be more environmentally friendly.
 
they will try to hold us hostage with the national id card. making it law to prove your citizenship to make an essential purchases

The next step will be to turn the ID card into your "credit/debit" card and get rid of cash altogether. Then we'll all be royally screwed.
 
we will have to a print a new currency, like the original colonist did... and then King George will get mad and send our own fellow citizens to kill us.... but the people will win.. just like we did in 1783.
 
Maybe we should all vote democrat until the government goes bankrupt. Libertarians and free markets always win in the end, because everything else goes broke.

Many desperate libertarians have come to that conclusion over the years. Vote for the absolute biggest government you can, and wait for the laws of economics to catch up with the government.

I couldn't personally vote to do such a thing, but I have heard the idea spoken of before. If REP isn't POTUS in 2008, I'm basically going "partyarch."
 
I dont know. Im willing to do that exact type of thing all the time to prove a point. Do things exactly the way someone wants just to show them it doesnt work.

But destroy the country just to prove all the big government socialists wrong?
 
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