SOMEONE tweet Wead or something!

Then SOMEONE PLEASE EMAIL WEAD OR TATE OR BENSON!! RON Needs to Input some serious knowledge in a way that people get it!

1. Social Security : My plan keeps your social security in place. I am a senior (laugh), I understand your issues. I also predicted the economic collapse while all these others were shaking lobbyist hands. They want endless debt, endless war - you wont have Social Security with them. It will all come crashing down. My plan protects you.

2. Call out the media for their obvious biasness. "Many of these networks get subsidies from the government and/or are part of larger parent companies who are part of the Military Industrial Complex. A few even received bailouts. You think they want me to have an equal voice in this election? I want to stop all of this cronyism and special treatment at your expense..."

3. FOREIGN POLICY : The media & radio talking heads have twisted my foreign policy, and perhaps I haven't clearly stated it. "IF OUR NATIONAL SECURITY IS THREATENED AND I go to congress for a declaration of war!! WE GO IN AND WE WIN IT AND WE GET OUT!! This is why there was no "declaration of war". The intent was never to leave these places.. but to occupy them. This has made us less safe. We all know it. My way. We mind our own business. You want to tangle with us. Lets do it constutionally and get in/win it. Get out"
 
He needs to say what he WILL do, not just what he WON'T do on foreign policy and he needs to point out he is the ONLY ONE who would not cut Social Security and medicare yet would balance the budget in 3 years WITHOUT using the words 'transition plan' which leads the elderly to think he won't pull the rug out THIS year but will NEXT. He won't harm it for those who paid in and will let the young opt out, is a very different thing.

Yes, THIS times a million.

People think Paul's idea of national defense is "bringing the troops home and talking to other countries". And frankly, I don't blame them. That's what the media says, and Dr. Paul isn't exactly saying anything differently. Bringing the troops home and diplomacy is an important aspect of his foreign policy, but it says nothing about national defense. He needs to define the characteristics of a strong national defense HIMSELF so people stop making their own assumptions. Mitt did a little bit of this last debate by talking about the Navy. There's no reason why Paul can't do the same.

I will donate $100 tomorrow night if he gets specific on national defense.
 
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I agree.

He needs to set up the up coming caucus states tonight by, taking charge no matter what.
 
He needs to say what he WILL do, not just what he WON'T do on foreign policy and he needs to point out he is the ONLY ONE who would not cut Social Security and medicare yet would balance the budget in 3 years WITHOUT using the words 'transition plan' which leads the elderly to think he won't pull the rug out THIS year but will NEXT. He won't harm it for those who paid in and will let the young opt out, is a very different thing.

I agree with all of the above, and if I had to relay only 1 message to an already busy campaign (and an even busier Ron), I would relay the part in bold. Well said. This will win him literally hundreds of thousands of voters.

He needs to go beyond "protect our borders" and "bring the troops home".

People need to know how Ron Paul is going to protect America from getting attacked. He needs to tell people what he will do to PREVENT the attack without causing a war with his actions.
 
I say he threaten default and point to the culprits standing next to him as to why it will happen. Then point to the camera and say with a slight pause for it to sit in... then say Obama so people think "oh, I thought he was going to say me for a second."

...but we all know it was because of those idiots watching with no clue. Tee hee!
 
he needs to do something that will get people to actually talk about him after the debate is over. Desperate times call for desperate measures
 
I agree. We won't win or even get 2nd in FL no matter what, but 3rd is of utmost importance for perception of "who should drop out", and to prove there is still some momentum. It's time to go on offense during these debates. Call the media out. Ignore stupid questions and answer what he will do to keep Social Security and Medicare financed. Stop saying what we won't do around the world with our military and say what we will do here and if we are attacked.

I'm not thinking of Florida so much, but the upcoming caucus state voters are watching these debates, as well. Florida, I hope we get third in, but we've already written off 'perception' for what it's worth, in pursuit of mathematical advantage in delegates, so we can't complain if we come in fourth in Florida. I'd love a third, though.
 
Ron needs to call out that nutcase Santorum's "jihadi behind every rock" nonsense about Cuba. He needs to tell everyone in FL that the embargo is nuts and has done nothing but help Castro all these decades. The younger Cubans in FL are in favor of dropping the embargo. Only dopes think it accomplishes anything good.
 
We want to win. I don't believe "liberty" needs to be conveyed in a specific way. Look at the great speakers of the past.. MLK, Kennedy etc.. even the knucklehead Obama -- their message is one the people love. They speak about liberty/freedom/jobs etc.... True, it matters what happens afterwards... but Ron Paul's message can be preached like fiery brimstone... if he did. That is all it would take.

We talked about this in 2007. Same issues. I just hope Wead or someone can instill it in Ron or tweak it so that it resonates more.

Agreed!

When I see Ron in preacher mode, I start doubting whether he's in this to win or purely to educate. I think he forgets sometimes because he WANTS to educate, but he NEEDS to win. Unfortunately, the switch from politician to preacher occurs at the MOST unfortunate times, like that FOX debate a week ago.

Give me more of that New Hampshire debate! That "I went" moment. I want another one like that this Thursday.
 
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Can someone let Wead know that Ron needs to BELT IT OUT OF THE PARK TOMORROW!!!!

He needs to do something. A great debate performance is worth millions in advertising.

He needs a way to turn the marginalization around on them. Attacking the hosts worked for Newt. Or call them out on their biasness "Why do you not allow the American voters to decide which candidate can best turn this country around when you ask canned questions to two of the most status quo/establishment candidates up here. It seems unfair that you are trying to create the narrative for the voter. You should ask & treat all candidates equally. Equal time. Let them all answer the same questions." or something.

I don't know... perception is everything and Faux and radio bobble-heads are creating the narrative of "last place" because of S.C. "He is dangerous" etc...

We need a watershed moment. I like Wead, I think he is great - but his debating tact is good for the long haul, it isn't good when you are trying to climb your way out of a hole and make sharp and concise impressions in the moment.

We need a good headline. How about if Ron says 9-11 was an inside job?
 
Ron Paul needs to be involved. He doesn't even get mentioned in the news cycle, it is like he doesn't exist. He hasn't said anything new or newsworthy in the past couple debates. He can't keep saying the same things 100 times over and expect new results. People and supporters react to boldness or at least the appearance that you are trying to make a splash. He can do this without lying or stretching.

- Has not directly challenged other candidates on how they intend to close a 1 trillion deficit while not labeling any significant cuts and proposing more war with Iran.
- Should point out the discrepancy of his support and tie it into media manipulation and where people get their media from.
- More boldness regarding entitlements and his plan to save them for this generation. "Do you need SS / Medicare or do you need a war with Iran? Make a choice, because you can't have both without bankrupting the country. The other candidates are lying will promise you anything and everything, I will give you the truth."
 
We need a good headline. How about if Ron says 9-11 was an inside job?
Jesus fucking Christ, no.

Yes, he needs to be far more assertive -- dare I say, angry? Now is not the time to play nice. It's time to take off the gloves and throw a few knockout punches. Attack Newt and Romney at every opportunity, there's a ton of material. Clear up this foreign policy misconception by asserting how he'd keep the country safe despite not using force. Be emphatic that his plan is the only one to preserve social security/medicare. Less of "we" "us", and more of the "federal government" and "Washington".
 
Can someone let Wead know that Ron needs to BELT IT OUT OF THE PARK TOMORROW!!!!

He needs to do something. A great debate performance is worth millions in advertising.
Do you REALLY think Doug Wead doesn't know what he's doing? :rolleyes:
 
I think he's hit it out of the park every debate. The issue isn't his performance... the issue is how the media spins it. They always say Newt or Mitt did best, and Santorum really showed up. They always spin Paul badly. ALWAYS. It doesn't matter if he inspired everyone there to vote for him, the media will say Newt had an awesome night. Or Romney made some great point... or some useless hyperbole about the candidates that doesn't even resemble the truth of what happened.

The next day, crack-head Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity et al will be spinning against Ron, especially if he does well. I think he does best when he sticks to the message he's been sticking to for 40 years and doesn't change his tactics. That's what won him my support, and pretty much the support of everyone who backs him.
 
Someone needs to let Ron know that he needs to do well in the debate? Is that really the point of this thread?
 
He needs to say what he WILL do, not just what he WON'T do on foreign policy and he needs to point out he is the ONLY ONE who would not cut Social Security and medicare yet would balance the budget in 3 years WITHOUT using the words 'transition plan' which leads the elderly to think he won't pull the rug out THIS year but will NEXT. He won't harm it for those who paid in and will let the young opt out, is a very different thing.

Sailing, how can we get this message to somebody who will get it to Ron? I was thinking about one of us putting it into letter form and all of us sign a petition. They must know what we've done and how hard we all work for this effort. We're the one out here on the front lines every day talking, writing, making videos, raising money and donating our own money until it hurts. We ARE the campaign. If they won't respond to us now, how will they respond to us if they win the election?
 
Jesus fucking Christ, no.

Yes, he needs to be far more assertive -- dare I say, angry? Now is not the time to play nice. It's time to take off the gloves and throw a few knockout punches. Attack Newt and Romney at every opportunity, there's a ton of material. Clear up this foreign policy misconception by asserting how he'd keep the country safe despite not using force. Be emphatic that his plan is the only one to preserve social security/medicare. Less of "we" "us", and more of the "federal government" and "Washington".

Ron will flounder at around 20-30% for the rest of the election without a major paradigm shift in the dialog. Somehow.
 
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