SOMEONE EXPLAIN 2 me Y Dr. Paul Voted "NO" on this BILL!!!!!!!!!

And I think its a poor vote. In many cases, I find big business even more abhorable than government, and this is one of them

Lol... I misread what you said....

I think consensual tests should be permitted (no insurance if you aren't tested first), but I don't really understand how Paul voted nay on this either... Maybe we're missing a rider/amendment?
 
votes like these really piss me off. Dr. paul is too idealistic. he shouldnt have voted against this, just like he shouldnt be against net neutrality.

Yes what he's saying sounds good in a perfect world, but hell if I can support a vote against a bill that prevents employers from gaining insight into my future risk of developing disease.

And Paul is partially right; government is inefficient, and this measure wont work 100%. But how is it worse than NOTHING? How is it worse than just letting employers discriminate and run roughshod over people?


You really should rethink your comments here. Especially that on Net
Neutrality. I agree that it is not good for ISPs to manipulate or rather
"influence" your web-surfing and your internet access. However, what
is worse is allowing government to regulate the internet!

Net Neutrality is just a sneaky way to get government's claws into
regulating internet and eventually internet content.
 
And I think its a poor vote. In many cases, I find big business even more abhorable than government, and this is one of them

That's because big business (corporations) were created by the government and the government subsidies them (with contracts), create barriers to entry that protect them (complicated regulations only large companies can decifer) and bails them out when they're in trouble (airlines, big banks).
 
I'm a libertarian and I question the entire existence of limited liability. Meaning I am sympathetic to abolishing the corporate (limited liability) legal structure entirely. What right does the government have to create an artificial person? I am however not in favor of regulating private enterprise such as this bill would do.

I agree 100%. A lot of people don't understand limited liability and how evil it can end up being.
 
Net Neutrality is just a sneaky way to get government's claws into
regulating internet and eventually internet content.

Amen my friend. They start out with something light that "sounds good" to get their foot in the door. Then they will get more and more intrusive as problems (created by regulation) arise. New regulation leads to more problems, so they create more regulation to deal with the new problems. And with a little time it will be something along the lines of: U.S. Department of Internet Safety, staffing 100,000 people with an agency in each state and spending $500 billion dollars a year. It will all be sold to us in the form of "protecting your children from internet predators, making sure the "wrong information" isn't published on websites, and making the internet more user friendly. (and if you have complaint about their sensorship just file the appropriate form and they'll get back with you in 6-8 weeks).

We need NO regulation of the internet whatsoever. Just think if the feds could sensor the spreading of ideas.... like RonPaulForums. Then it would be just as difficult to get accurate info from the internet as it is from the MSM.
 
votes like these really piss me off. Dr. paul is too idealistic. he shouldnt have voted against this, just like he shouldnt be against net neutrality.

Yes what he's saying sounds good in a perfect world, but hell if I can support a vote against a bill that prevents employers from gaining insight into my future risk of developing disease.

Perhaps you could point out to me which of the following enumerated powers in the U.S. Constitution grants the Congress the authority to make laws regarding such matters?

Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
 
laws like this get passed by the problem is they are hardly ever enforced. Now people can say, yeah we have laws against genetic discrimination in our country, isn't the USA grand!

The fact that people think we would even need a law like this tells you that it will become common practice to do exactly what the law prohibits. Our DNA is already being harvested and cataloged. Businesses and insurance companies will get their hands on the data as part of routine background checks. There WILL be discrimination based on genetic information.

Hell businesses already do that when the hiring manager prefers a less qualified person who may be taller, more handsome, etc. The more qualified person never knows the real reason they were not hired.

This law is just more government bloat. How much money is going to be spent in the name of enforcing this law that really can't and won't be enforced? Waste. Dr. Paul voted against this item on principle. The government is not protecting anyone with this law, and I would argue it is doing the opposite by giving local and state governments no room to judge each case on an individual basis.
 
I'm a libertarian and I question the entire existence of limited liability. Meaning I am sympathetic to abolishing the corporate (limited liability) legal structure entirely. What right does the government have to create an artificial person? I am however not in favor of regulating private enterprise such as this bill would do.

The government hasn't created it per se. Various limited liability structures are created by individuals for the most part. Nobody is forced to interact with corporations, and every corporation (or limited liability co.) must state that in its name.
 
That's because big business (corporations) were created by the government and the government subsidies them (with contracts), create barriers to entry that protect them (complicated regulations only large companies can decifer) and bails them out when they're in trouble (airlines, big banks).

And all those problems exist because of government actions.
 
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