Soccer referee decapitated after stabbing player to death in Brazil

Sports teams and the fools that follow them ROCK!

Every time there is a game, you can go shopping and there will be NO LINES! - AWESOME, right?

On the down side, they built a stadium a few blocks from a library I use, and whenever there is a game you can't fine a parking space within a mile of it :(

-t

Wow, that must be great. I would go there all the time to avoid parking fines.
 
And it escalated because the ref brought a knife to a fistfight. Now two people are dead when it could have ended with slight injuries and both guys move on with their lives. Sad.

Reminds me of a case here in the US where someone brought a gun to a fistfight. Similar outcome.

Boo fucking hoo. There is no such thing as a fist fight between strangers. "Fist fights" are reserved for brothers, friends, cousins and that's about it. When I was young and foolish, I got into a "fist fight" with a stranger and ended up getting cracked in the head with a brick.
 
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Right on, you read posts jumping to "bread and circuses" explanation like the govt had anything to do with it and then other are putting all the blame on the game like the initial murder never happened. Football is the beautiful game and only the haters will bash the most popular and most played sport in the world because there was one violent incident in a million matches played.

Btw this is the real football, one you actually play with your feet and not hands.

Haha, nice jab there.

The people who did this, I must admit, seem quite barbaric. I can't imagine how something like that would happen here, and I can't believe the wreck it would have on my conscience if I, in a fit of rage, killed someone and sawed their head off, murderer or no murderer.
 
Boo fucking hoo. There is no such thing as a fist fight between strangers. "Fist fights" are reserved for brothers, friends, cousins and that's about it. When I was young and foolish, I got into a "fist fight" with a stranger and ended up getting cracked in the head with a brick.

Oh, yeah, totally. Bitch had it coming, right? /s
 
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Nail, meet Hammer.

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I never understood the devotion to a sport and/or sports team, and I was all-state in three sports, played football in college and love playing just about any sport, from getting beat by my wife in tennis (she's awesome) to ultimate frisbee to pickup basketball games at the park with complete strangers. I even have favorite teams in every sport that I 'root' for and love to see them win. But if they lose, meh... I couldn't care less if I can even watch the games. I'll catch the score in the paper or Espn.com and the write up. It's just a mild hobby.

But you'd think some of my friends parents just died when 'their team' loses. It ruins their whole day/week and they turn into little bitches.

My theory: people have been stripped of any ability to be secure in themselves and have lost any sense of personal identity. In part, this is the purpose of cultural Marxism which seeks to eliminate self identifying morals, norms or culture. Without anything to believe in or identify with, people attach themselves to anything and everything with the devotion and dedication that people in the past once reserved for family, friends, their work ethic and generally their personal integrity. Being a fan of a team or a sport gives people a group to identify with that has the same common interest; can share in their joy and pain; and gives them a place to pour their pent up need to be a part of something larger than themselves. Pretty much a collective of group think in which they can feel secure and welcomed do long as they say and do the right things.

To an individualist looking in from the outside, it's ridiculous.
 
Oh, yeah, totally. Bitch had it coming, right? /s

I take it you've never been put in that situation? I've also seen a man stabbed in what was supposed to be a fist fight. All fights with strangers are a fight for your life because you really have no idea what the other guy is thinking or what he's capable of. I would never start pounding on a stranger because, I'm not a dick and I don't want to get my ass shot, stabbed or bludgeoned.
 
Severed heads and not touching them with your hands sounds like soccer getting back to its roots.
 
And it escalated because the ref brought a knife to a fistfight. Now two people are dead when it could have ended with slight injuries and both guys move on with their lives. Sad.

Reminds me of a case here in the US where someone brought a gun to a fistfight. Similar outcome.

Was just thinking the same thing. ;)
 
People really do take sports FAR too seriously. I just don't care about any of it, really.

Like at work. I live in Minnesota, and when the Vikings have a game on Sunday (or Saturday, or whenever the hell football games are normally played) EVERYONE besides me and like one or two people is decked out in purple. I don't think I even OWN a piece of purple clothing, and if I did happen to wear it on a "cheer for the Vikes" day at work it would be pure coincidence.

it's more like people don't understand sports.. the essence is performance under rule and restraint, how you strategize and exploit without violating the rules. It is supposed to be a testament of wit and will with the premise to entertain and to inspire.

people who won't hesitate to violate rules and sportsmanship the second referee is absent or not watching don't understand the essence of sports at all. In a way it is quite true, with the way culturally most sports fans are today, i quite frankly have no interest in any televised sport either. These massive organizations are just supplying the mass with what they want.
 
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I know the articles are trying to spin this as Crazy Soccer fans, BEHEAD ref.


But realize a man was murdered in front of his family and friends, I don't think it's unexpected the MOB of family and friends would seek revenge and kill the guy.

The beheading and ripping apart the body is extreme (not sure what that accomplishes), but I don't think it's surprising that a family would kill someone would murdered their son/brother in cold blood in front of them.
 
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Bet the ref doesn't do that again.

Sounds like an efficient justice system

Or maybe the ref was just defending himself when attacked by the player he just ejected from the game? The idea that it was mutual comes from one line in an AP story that "the two got into a fist fight" but I have to wonder about that.
 
Boo fucking hoo. There is no such thing as a fist fight between strangers. "Fist fights" are reserved for brothers, friends, cousins and that's about it. When I was young and foolish, I got into a "fist fight" with a stranger and ended up getting cracked in the head with a brick.

Did the soccer player have a brick on him? Would have likely slowed his movement down during the game.

When I was a kid I used to play basketball every day at a court near my house. Things would sometimes get heated and it wasn't unusual for a fight to break out. Never much happened and I remember even after fights with kids a day later we'd be friends again and all would be forgotten. Till one guy (who sucked at basketball by the way) brought a gun to the court and started shooting once during a fight. He was an idiot and a terrible aim and luckily no one got worse than a flesh wound. But it did break up the game for a few months and we tried to avoid the guy after that.

By the way the guy who escalated it - a few years ago I found out on facebook that he'd been shot by someone else.

You escalate fights and eventually it'll get on you.

I'm sure Brazil sees many fist fights on the field - it ended with two people dead because someone took out a knife.
 
On the "even more" downside, it's not "they" that build a stadium. They steal my money at gunpoint, then use it to build one. I HATE that.

Completely agree - probably my #1 Pet Peeve, right up there with building highways at taxpayer expense and gifting them to buddies to maintain and turn into a toll road. In either case, you get robbed to build it, and robbed again if you use "your property".

I'm really amazed what some people are willing to pay for a ticket - let alone a hotdog!
Similar reason for why I boycott movie theaters...

-t
 
Or maybe the ref was just defending himself when attacked by the player he just ejected from the game? The idea that it was mutual comes from one line in an AP story that "the two got into a fist fight" but I have to wonder about that.
Even if the ref was just defending himself, he killed a man who didn't want to kill him and was unarmed. Self-defense is killing someone who has intent to kill you and the necessary instruments to do so (a knife, a machete, a gun, etc)

the crowd's reaction was understandable. They wanted justice for a murder they had just witnessed and that's why I posted "good".
 
Even if the ref was just defending himself, he killed a man who didn't want to kill him and was unarmed. Self-defense is killing someone who has intent to kill you and the necessary instruments to do so (a knife, a machete, a gun, etc)

the crowd's reaction was understandable. They wanted justice for a murder they had just witnessed and that's why I posted "good".
Actually, self defense is just that. The other person doesn't even have to have a weapon.
 
Even if the ref was just defending himself, he killed a man who didn't want to kill him and was unarmed. Self-defense is killing someone who has intent to kill you and the necessary instruments to do so (a knife, a machete, a gun, etc)

the crowd's reaction was understandable. They wanted justice for a murder they had just witnessed and that's why I posted "good".

This.
 
Actually, self defense is just that. The other person doesn't even have to have a weapon.

So anytime you are in a fight you are justified in killing a man?

If that were the case we'd have a lot more death than we do currently.
 
And it escalated because the ref brought a knife to a fistfight. Now two people are dead when it could have ended with slight injuries and both guys move on with their lives. Sad.

Reminds me of a case here in the US where someone brought a gun to a fistfight. Similar outcome.

I take it you've never been in a real fistfight. People can and do die in fistfights.
 
So anytime you are in a fight you are justified in killing a man?

If that were the case we'd have a lot more death than we do currently.

I'm an old man, if somebody comes up to me and starts punching me in the face, I'll do anything I feel is necessary to make them stop.

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And the person who initiated the assault wouldn't have a leg to stand on if they were shot in the process.

People need to start understanding that assault is assault, weapon or not. If you assault somebody, you should expect you might get shot for doing so.
 
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