So what do you DISAGREE about with Ron Paul?

[Trance Dance Master]

* His stnace that student visas should be denied from students coming from "terrorist" countries, which really surprised me.

The invasion must be thwarted in the interest of national sovereignty.

* His constant riffing on abolishing the Dept. of Education, which in actuality only imposes the No Child Left Behind onto the State Dept. of Education. Some people get the wrong impression that as president he can abolish all public education.

The Patriot Act gave the executive branch a lot of power. Those brainwashing children on the taxpayer dole could be cripplingly downsized.

 

[cindy25]

citizenship.

if you are born in the USA you are American, and it should remain that way.

 

[RonPaulMania]

I agree with Paul on Freedom, but not in the free market unfettered. The free market is a better alternative to socialism, but it becomes corporatism. You cannot separate this from historical reality. The more the free market is played the more competition is lessened. I think blocks to monopolies are essential. Some regulation is needed I believe. I do think we are over-regulated. How this is balanced is a problem since humans are humans.

I don't like free-trade, and think there should be tariffs, and I believe in a semi-protectionism.

Other than that I agree with the historical belief in citizenship that Paul holds, his view on taxes, his view on illegals and taking away the incentives they come.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

I heartily agree with you Ron Paul Mania. T bones

 

[Trance Dance Master]

citizenship.

if you are born in the USA you are American, and it should remain that way.

National citizenship must be based on genetics, not geography. Globalism is here to stay.

I agree with Paul on Freedom, but not in the free market unfettered. The free market is a better alternative to socialism, but it becomes corporatism. You cannot separate this from historical reality. The more the free market is played the more competition is lessened. I think blocks to monopolies are essential. Some regulation is needed I believe. I do think we are over-regulated. How this is balanced is a problem since humans are humans.

I don't like free-trade, and think there should be tariffs, and I believe in a semi-protectionism.

Other than that I agree with the historical belief in citizenship that Paul holds, his view on taxes, his view on illegals and taking away the incentives they come.

Government's role is to protect our rights to life, liberty, and property. A powerful central government must ensure that corporatism and socialism does not infringe on those rights.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

I agree about the MLK...I think that MLK moneybomb fizzled. I STILL say RP is getting BAD ADVICE from somebody..and he should fire them. <ducks a ban> T BONEZ

 

[inibo]

I'm not really crazy about his tendency to support Republicans just because they are Republicans. There might be a few other things where I disagree with his emphasis and he strikes me as a bit naive, but he so right on so many things that my "difficulties" with him are very minor.

It seems that based on what some folks are saying about non-interventionism and free markets some folks still haven't quite understood his ideas of what comprises freedom and constitutional government.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

Yes. I really love Ron Paul . His pluses are farrrr greater than the minuses. He is a Great American. Tones

 

[libertarian4321]

I can think of a couple of things I disagree with:

2. Not endorsing the GOP in this VERY important election.

Ron Paul is a man of principal- thats what sets him apart from the herd.

If he were to come out and endorse McCain, a man he vehemently disagrees with on a slew of issues, Ron Paul would just be another politician, willing to SELL OUT his principals to keep "his party" in power.

Not selling out and not endorsing a vile douchebag like McCain was one of the best moves RP ever made.

If he had endorsed McCain, I would have lost all respect for him- and I suspect most of his supporters (other than Tones and a few of the other neocons here) would feel the same way.

 

[inibo]

National citizenship must be based on genetics, not geography. Globalism is here to stay.

I would challenge you to point out the genetic differences between someone from France and someone from Germany.

By your reasoning there are no Americans since there are no genetic groups that are native to this continent--every group here immigrated from somewhere. By your reasoning everyone in the world is African since every bit of genetic research I've seen traces every so called race to emigrants from Africa.

I do agree with you that the concept of nationhood originated from ethnic/cultural affinity, but the very idea of nation states is a relatively new concept. For most of human history there we no nations.

 

[Brassmouth]

Trance Dance Master,

Are you some kind of Nazi? Why do you keep talking about genetics and nationalism? From the sound of it, you agree with Ron Paul on next to nothing. In just a few posts you've called me a murderer for being pro-choice, a McCain supporter, and tried to equate Henry Ford's assembly line to rounding up all the immigrants and tossing them over the border.

You are a pathetic troll.

He is a Great American.

QFT.

Brassmouth, the average anyone is stupid.

True, as much as I hate to admit it. I kinda like that quote from MIB "A person is intelligent, but people are stupid." I butchered it but it went something like that.

THe only point I was trying to make was that I disagree with Ron Paul about free trade.

Accusing me of not being well read was the attack. I was only responding in kind.

It wasn't an attack, I genuinely recommended that you read those books. How is recommending books an attack?

 

[Trance Dance Master]

I would challenge you to point out the genetic differences between someone from France and someone from Germany.

By your reasoning there are no Americans since there are no genetic groups that are native to this continent--every group here immigrated from somewhere. By your reasoning everyone in the world is African since every bit of genetic research I've seen traces every so called race to emigrants from Africa.

I do agree with you that the concept of nationhood originated from ethnic/cultural affinity, but the very idea of nation states is a relatively new concept. For most of human history there we no nations.

There's only three genetic groups that would make up three different nations. These genetic groups can be determined by hair structure.

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/lab/fsc/backissu/july2000/deedric1.htm

Caucasoid (European)
Hairs of Caucasoid or Caucasian origin can be of fine to medium coarseness, are generally straight or wavy in appearance, and exhibit colors ranging from blonde to brown to black. The hair shafts of Caucasian hairs vary from round to oval in cross section and have fine to medium-sized, evenly distributed pigment granules.

Mongoloid (Asian)
Hairs of Mongoloid or Asian origin are regularly coarse, straight, and circular in cross section, with a wider diameter than the hairs of the other racial groups. The outer layer of the hair, the cuticle, is usually significantly thicker than the cuticle of Negroid and Caucasian hairs, and the medulla, or central canal, is continuous and wide. The hair shaft, or cortex, of Mongoloid hair contains pigment granules that are generally larger in size than the pigment granules of Caucasian hairs and which often appear to be grouped in patchy areas within the shaft. Mongoloid hair can have a characteristic reddish appearance as a product of its pigment.

Negroid (African)
Hairs of Negroid or African origin are regularly curly or kinky, have a flattened cross section, and can appear curly, wavy, or coiled. Negroid pigment granules are larger than those found in Mongoloid and Caucasian hair and are grouped in clumps of different sizes and shapes. The density of the pigment in the hair shaft may be so great as to make the hair opaque. A Negroid hair shaft exhibits variation or apparent variation in diameter because of its flattened nature and the manner in which it lies on the microscope slide. Twisting of the hair shaft, known as buckling, can be present, and the hair shaft frequently splits along the length.

 

[bojo68]

I think this thread should be renamed the fodder for McBama trolls feeding trough.

 

[Trance Dance Master]

From the sound of it, you agree with Ron Paul on next to nothing.

End the IRS and the Federal Reserve, free markets, sound money, strong limited government designed to protect life, liberty, and property. I agree with him on lots of important issues, but I'll also address my vision for the future of nationalism based on genetics, not geographical location of birth.

 

[H Roark]

LoL you know what TranceDanceMaster, you sure are discriminating for a raver.

 

[Grimnir Wotansvolk]

* His TV advertisement that stated student visas should be denied, if said student comes from a "terrorist" country.

Oh wow, I forgot all about this one.

The whole student visa thing is fucking infuriating

 

[Grimnir Wotansvolk]

I have to agree with the lassiz faire market also...i agree with the fair trade idea. If there was a moral society..free markets would work..unfortunately as we can see...we don't have a moral society..so there must be some protectionism. tones

the whole point of a free market is that it's the best way to deal with "immoral" elements in society by allowing them to sit in their own peaceful little corner. you can't legislate morality, and you can't hurt it economically. Have you learned anything from the drug war, prostitution, etc.? It's like taking off the head off a hydra

 

[hillbilly123069]

He dropped out of the race!

 

[v00513]

I would challenge you to point out the genetic differences between someone from France and someone from Germany.

By your reasoning there are no Americans since there are no genetic groups that are native to this continent--every group here immigrated from somewhere. By your reasoning everyone in the world is African since every bit of genetic research I've seen traces every so called race to emigrants from Africa.

I do agree with you that the concept of nationhood originated from ethnic/cultural affinity, but the very idea of nation states is a relatively new concept. For most of human history there we no nations.

Well, the primary species of "human" living in the Islamic Republic of France, is the first form of human, what we know as the Turk, the Arab, the Moroccan, and the Algerian today. There is no French nationality any more, and there hasn't been for almost a century. Anyone there you ask that says they're "French" (ie white), will almost certainly reply they've had one or more parents/grandparents from a different European nationality if asked. See what the fruits of democracy, bolshevism and socialism have brought? Germany on the other hand is not officially Islamic yet, and there are still Germans in abundance, though they are declining at the speed of light. So the difference is clear, in this case, two completely different races, nationalities, skin colours, hair colours, languages (German and Arabic), and species of human. I take it you obviously haven't been to the Islamic Republic of France.

 

[nickcoons]

But it's not going to work here. We have too many social programs, EPA regulations, etc etc.

You have a free market, or you have "social programs, EPA regulations, etc etc." You can't have both. A free market would work here, because it would definitively abolish those things.