So now what?

[cajuncocoa]

I already am. I take you to the woodshed every time you attack Ron Paul's plan. The members here are much more in line with Ron Paul's plan than your none no-plan.

Taking me to the woodshed? LMAO!! Internet tough guy pounds out another post on his keyboard...watch out!!

 

[cajuncocoa]

Be careful - cc's been on my ignore list for about as long as it's been a member, and I'm putting its twin, CB, on that list too. Some people aren't worth the effort.

Good!

 

[Carlybee]

Cause Rand is? a neo-con?

Ron's own son? Did you even help elect Rand? If not where do you come from in your argument?

No because Bastiat has been pushing Rand in this forum and this is not the Rand forum. And no I did not help elect Rand nor would I at this point given that he endorsed his dad's opponent prior to the convention.

 

[angelatc]

And that is why he endorsed one in 2008?...

This is what Ron Paul told us:


So STOP putting words in his mouth!

I'm not putting words in his mouth. He said, repeatedly, that he wouldn't run as a third party again because it cost too much in time and money simply to get on the ballot, and that the media ignores third party candidates.

ANd he's right.

 

[coffeewithchess]

Cause Rand is? a neo-con?

Ron's own son? Did you even help elect Rand? If not where do you come from in your argument?

Well, some people will speak up against Rand, because of the way he went about his endorsement of Mitt Romney, dragging his dad and his dad's supporters into that endorsement.

 

[Carlybee]

Be careful - cc's been on my ignore list for about as long as it's been a member, and I'm putting its twin, CB, on that list too. Some people aren't worth the effort.

Ditto drama queen

 

[cajuncocoa]

That's fine. But it's absurd to let them pretend that anything significant is going to come from those efforts. The system is stacked, hard, for the two major parties. The LP is the most successful third party around today, and the best they've ever done is about 1%, and that was the year they ran a Koch brother on the ticket. Spinning wheels on those venues gets us nothing but burned out. Spinning wheels in the GOP gets us elected.

Then why spend so much time and insults over the posts of two people who won't do anything significant according to you and your ilk? Go watch a movie or something and chill.

 

[LibertyRevolution]

That's fine. But it's absurd to let them pretend that anything significant is going to come from those efforts. The system is stacked, hard, for the two major parties. The LP is the most successful third party around today, and the best they've ever done is about 1%, and that was the year they ran a Koch brother on the ticket. Spinning wheels on those venues gets us nothing but burned out. Spinning wheels in the GOP gets us elected.

You are missing the point completely.

LP gets 1% because they got no money to buy air time and the MSM wont cover them.
If the liberty movement was funding the LP that wouldn't be the issue, we know how to raise money when we want to.
There are a lot of Dems that are angry with Obama, trust me, I live with 2 of them..
There are a lot of the Republicans that are not happy about Romney..
This is the perfect storm... We could make a viable 3rd party out of this election..

 

[cajuncocoa]

Cause Rand is? a neo-con?

Ron's own son? Did you even help elect Rand? If not where do you come from in your argument?

if sending money is helping him to get elected, yes...I did.

 

[angelatc]

You are missing the point completely.

LP gets 1% because they got no money to buy air time and the MSM wont cover them.
If the liberty movement was funding the LP that wouldn't be the issue, we know how to raise money when we want to.
There are a lot of Dems that are angry with Obama, trust me, I live with 2 of them..
There are a lot of the Republicans that are not happy about Romney..
This is the perfect storm... We could make a viable 3rd party out of this election..

God Bless You.

I wish I thought you were right, I really do. But I tried to get Ron a guaranteed spot on the ballot months ago, and heard firsthand how little support there was for it.

I'd be thrilled to see you prove me wrong.

 

[cajuncocoa]

You are missing the point completely.

LP gets 1% because they got no money to buy air time and the MSM wont cover them.
If the liberty movement was funding the LP that wouldn't be the issue, we know how to raise money when we want to.
There are a lot of Dems that are angry with Obama, trust me, I live with 2 of them..
There are a lot of the Republicans that are not happy about Romney..
This is the perfect storm... We could make a viable 3rd party out of this election..

Of course we could, but certain GOP operatives wouldn't like that! Shhh!!

 

[Michigan11]

No because Bastiat has been pushing Rand in this forum and this is not the Rand forum. And no I did not help elect Rand nor would I at this point given that he endorsed his dad's opponent prior to the convention.

There is nothing wrong with pushing Ron's own son Rand in Ron's forum. Those of us around in 2010 called and donated alot to get him elected, and hoped he would succeed as he has, and he has learned from Ron. Contrary to what you may read, Rand is more politically savvy, because Ron paved the way for people like Rand to get into office, when there were no liberty candidates in congress besides Ron.

Ron wants more Rands in office.

 

[LibertyRevolution]

Rand is not a neo-con..but Rand is willing to play their game..so, I'm not happy with Rand.

I would still vote for him, but I would not support him with money or my time.

 

[Michigan11]

Well, some people will speak up against Rand, because of the way he went about his endorsement of Mitt Romney, dragging his dad and his dad's supporters into that endorsement.

If you think Ron and Rand never communicate, or that Ron is politically insufficient, and he would rather have everyone do as he does, you aren't seeing the play going on. Politics, is a 3 dimensional chess board, and Ron knows damn well what Rand is doing and vice versa. This isn't anything new. Both are fully for freedom and liberty

 

[Carlybee]

There is nothing wrong with pushing Ron's own son Rand in Ron's forum. Those of us around in 2010 called and donated alot to get him elected, and hoped he would succeed as he has, and he has learned from Ron. Contrary to what you may read, Rand is more politically savvy, because Ron paved the way for people like Rand to get into office, when there were no liberty candidates in congress besides Ron.

Ron wants more Rands in office.

Sorry I respect your opinion, but it will take me a while to get over Rand endorsing Romney the way he did. I feel protective toward his dad even if he doesn't himself. Ultimately Rand is in bed with the devil. Maybe he feels that he can handle it, I don't know but the GOP is owned by the MIC and the Banking industry (amongst others). As long as that is the case, liberty will not win a place in the GOP. I agree that there should be more liberty minded people in office in both parties but really I wish both parties at this point would just crash and burn. I want nothing to do with either of them. I think they are going to screw Rand over too just because of who his dad is. I really wish I didn't feel this way but I do and I am generally right when I get these kind of vibes.

 

[Michigan11]

if sending money is helping him to get elected, yes...I did.

You know how devistated this movement was after 08'? I would go so far as to say almost everyone on the boards at that time, not only gave more money than they could, but they also gave up their jobs and time to knock on doors. In 2010, Rand came, and few were even interested in helping him out. There is a evolving strategy going on here, such as is the case in a job(politics). Some don't get that, but some do, and try to input their own motives.

 

[sailingaway]

What do you disagree with in their posts? They seem to be stating legitimate concerns/disagreements with the campaign, and the way events have unfolded. If I don't agree with something, that doesn't mean it's negative, or complaining, it may mean we interpret the results differently.

As for a mod telling people to not call others names, I found that personally hilarious based on my own history around here...having comments/threads moved (and deleted) and being cursed at/name-called by other forum users...which the very same moderator left their comments in the thread while moving my comments out which did not attack other RPF members.

Kind of interesting how things change...

I don't read every post, if you don't report something, don't blame mods if we don't respond to it. I'm sure I miss a lot of insults. Sometimes I think people are just getting back what they've given. If someone does it routinely, or severely, I'm more likely to act. Also, when people gang up, I'm more likely to act. It isn't a perfect algorithm.

 

[LibertyRevolution]

God Bless You.

I wish I thought you were right, I really do. But I tried to get Ron a guaranteed spot on the ballot months ago, and heard firsthand how little support there was for it.

I'd be thrilled to see you prove me wrong.

Yeah trying to run as an independent, getting ballot access is a no go.
That is why the LP and the CP need to join and form the Liberty party...

Anyways, its funny here with the 2 Dems.. They are really worried that Romney is gonna win..
They say that the Dems are just as fractured as the republicans.
I tried telling them there is no way Romney is going to get elected, but they wont listen, they are scared.
This is going to be an all time low for voter turn out.

 

[coffeewithchess]

You are missing the point completely.

LP gets 1% because they got no money to buy air time and the MSM wont cover them.
If the liberty movement was funding the LP that wouldn't be the issue, we know how to raise money when we want to.
There are a lot of Dems that are angry with Obama, trust me, I live with 2 of them..
There are a lot of the Republicans that are not happy about Romney..
This is the perfect storm... We could make a viable 3rd party out of this election..

Money is the key. If we had a Ross Perot, it could rock things like crazy. That's the big issue most here seem to be missing though. The power players will throw in a "viable" third party candidate if they need to keep somebody at bay I believe. Remember Donald Trump? He would run third party if "the right" Republican candidate didn't get the nomination? Same issue with Rand running in 2016. Let's say Rand is the fine upstanding candidate he is supposed to be (lying doesn't show me that), and that he will really change things...am I supposed to believe that the millions and millions being spent, wouldn't be changed over to a Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, or someone like them that your general zombie voter would support because the Republican party chooses "the wrong" candidate?

Unfortunately, I think RP and his entire campaign have made an incredibly wrong bet, and instead of going for broke...they went for a seat within that gained them nothing.

 

[coffeewithchess]

I don't read every post, if you don't report something, don't blame ME if I don't respond to it.

You commented within the very same thread, you saw it, and if I were to post it up here...it would be moved.