Smear by WV Senator Sprouse

[georgem]

Here is a ridiculous smear attempt by none other than Neo-Con Republican Senator Vic Sprouse from West Virginia.


http://www.changewv.com/2007/ron-paul-attempting-to-hijack-republican-convention

I'm not advocating leaving a zillion comments but I did leave mine:

"Ron Paul hijack the Republican Party? I’m sorry Senator, but it is the current makeup of the party, filled with fake republicans who have hijacked the entire party. What ever happened to fiscal conservatism, small government, low taxes, and the idea that we are not in the nation building business. The republican party changed not the supporters of the party. We have maintained and have been left behind which is the reason for the current decline of the republican party. Ron Paul may not have the answer on all the issues but I assure you the reason he has such a strong following is because he is more Republican than you and the rest of the thieves of OUR party. We are not loyal to a party who changes the foundation of their beliefs, it is you who should have been loyal to our beliefs. "

 

[Badger Paul]

Looks like we've got 'em running scared in West Virginia. You don't write hit pieces unless you think someone's a threat. Good work to all our people in West Virginia!

Hey, Sen. Sprouse, we're not the ones who thought up this cockamamie convention, your buddies on the GOP Central Committee did. We're simply playing by the rules. You don't like it, well then next time stick with the May primary.

Or you can join the Democrats and then you have to worry about Ron Paul any more.

 

[goRPaul]

My last name is Sprouse, and I have family history in West Virginia, as far back as having family fight on both sides of the civil war. Maybe I'm loosely related to him?

Edit: they took down my post. I said:

I just want to make sure you get your numbers right. In the month of November, Ron Paul has risen to 5-6% in national polls. He's at 8% in the early primary states of Nevada, South Carolina, and New Hampshire. And don't forget that the Ron Paul campaign is growing faster than any other candidate, period.

There are reasons to believe that Ron Paul will be well represented in the primaries. He has come in 1st or 2nd place in more straw polls than any other candidate. This suggests that Paul supporters are more likely to vote than other candidates. Also, the polls don't take into account newly registered republican voters, and this is a large bloc of Ron Paul's support.

As far as "hijacking" the Republican party, that was done by the neoconservatives. When they took control, they turned the party of limited government into the party of the biggest government we have ever had. Ron Paul is the true conservative who calls for limited government- this is the traditional Republican view.

 

[Spirit of '76]

He won't approve my comments.

 

[Maverick]

Secondly, Paul’s stance on an immediate surrender in Iraq simply won’t sell in a Republican primary.

I'm so damned sick and tired of every neocon using the term "surrender." We are not surrendering anything. Where were these people 4 years ago when Bush was standing under that "Mission Accomplished" banner? We've already won. We're done. Let's go home.

But, he is a media darling and he is a media darling for two reasons. He is different. And, trust me, the media loves ‘different.’ It gives them something to write about.

Media darling? HAHAHA! Hardly. Sometimes I don't understand where they get the evidence to back these kinds of claims. Sometimes I think they're throwing this stuff out there just to try to scare conservatives with the boogeyman of the "liberal media." OooooOOOh...spooky!

 

[colecrowe]

2% of Republicans are against Bush and the war!?!? HOW ABOUT 54% IN IOWA!

www DOT tinyurl DOT com SLASH yq7d5h

http://tinyurl.com/yq7d5h
http://www.strategicvision.biz/political/iowa_poll_111407.htm

Below are the results of a three-day poll in the state of Iowa. Results are based on telephone interviews with 600 likely Republican cacus goers and 600 likely Democratic cacus goers, aged 18+, and conducted November 9-12, 2007. The margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points.

...

4. Do you favor a withdrawal of all United States military from Iraq within the next six months? (Republicans Only)
Yes 53%
No 36%
Undecided 11%


comment left...

<<<"The Patriot Act in no way infringes on any American’s constitutional rights. It simply allows our government to monitor the activities of suspected terrorists & those who support them. Frankly, I’m not the slightest bit concerned about their rights, (as if they have any). Why are you??">>>

How about it violates the 4th amendment and the 1st amendment very clearly...

video about Patriot Act aired on Fox News:
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http://tinyurl.com/2523oy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvu1...blogarchive/fox-news-contributor-speaks-truth

 

[colecrowe]

They won't let me leave that poll comment. Scumbag fascists.

 

[colecrowe]

HUGE DIRT on Sprouse

Do as I say, not as I do. Again.
Well, the Vic Sprouse thing has reared its ugly head, again. Back in March, in one of my all time favorite posts, "Hoppy to Vic: Lay off the sauce, dude," I reported on the Vic Sprouse marital problems issue. If you don't know, Vic Sprouse the Republican Minority Leader in the State Senate is now going through divorce number three.

http://wvpoliticalsweatbox.blogspot.com/2006/06/do-as-i-say-not-as-i-do-again.html



This is about Sprous's son, very sick, no help from "family values" daddy:

http://maxupdate.blogspot.com/2006/05/sickagain.html
Max is sick...again.
...
I have to then explain that he will only pay what the court orders him to, and if the judge doesn't agree with our side, then how will I afford all of these extraordinary expenses.

 

[Bossobass]

Yeah, given his marital status, it's no surprise he endorses Guliani.

I agree with the 'surrender' thing. It's precisely because we had to borrow the money from China to invade a third world country under fraudulent premises to spend trillions and capture not one single soul involved with 9/11 that Congress immediately had to 'surrender' to China's threat to dump their dollar holdings if they got tough on China trade wise.

Those godless Communists won't stop until they have killed every last one of us...oh, wait...wrong decade.

Bosso

 

[ThePieSwindler]

But, he is a media darling and he is a media darling for two reasons. He is different. And, trust me, the media loves ‘different.’ It gives them something to write about.

Ah yes, spin it as if we are "loved" and never mistreated or ignored in the media. Bullshit. Also more of this "2% in the polls" bullshit.. of course, he never cites any polls, and is off by about 3-4 months. Ah those lovable neocons, mouthpieces for statism supremo.


The responses on the page are heartwarming and thoughtful, with nothing really caustic other than 1 or 2 posts. Good showing.

 

[LibertyBelle]

This was my response that was immediately posted, let's see if it stays there:

The ‘Senator’, if you can call him that, is afraid of losing his seat because of all the people who are waking up and will no longer support him as compared to someone who understands the complexities and consequences of a flawed foreign policy, as well as to someone who does not deny the usurping of liberties has come and continues to come from our own government. The funny thing is people think they are free because they are not behind bars.

I would have loved James Madison, that kooky, conspiracy oriented, delusional founding father who was well versed in history:

“War should only be declared by the authority of the people, whose toils and treasures are to support its burdens, instead of the government which is to reap its fruits.”

“Each generation should be made to bear the burden of its own wars, instead of carrying them on, at the expense of other generations.”

“If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”

“It is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad.”

“No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.”

“Of all the enemies of public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other.”

“The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home.”

This applies to the Dear ‘Senator’:

“The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted.”

A question for you: There are no shopping malls in Hell, so what are you selling out for?

 

[Minlawc]

Ah yes, spin it as if we are "loved" and never mistreated or ignored in the media. Bullshit. Also more of this "2% in the polls" bullshit.. of course, he never cites any polls, and is off by about 3-4 months. Ah those lovable neocons, mouthpieces for statism supremo.


The responses on the page are heartwarming and thoughtful, with nothing really caustic other than 1 or 2 posts. Good showing.

Really!

I remember there being a story about Obama eating a chocolate rabbit... But Paul's the one who's the media darling.

 

[Spirit of '76]

While Sprouse's ramblings were despicable, baseless, and out of touch with reality, I don't see any need to drag his personal life into this.

 

[Malakai0]

He's basically saying "Even though RP has a ton of financial support, grassroots support, and now delegates, he will still lose because the people with power like me don't approve of his beliefs".



Wow power infatuated neocons will really post anything huh?

 

[Carole]

Ther have been over 350 posts in response to Sen. Sprouse's remarks, mine included. Mr. Sprouse will never hold office there again I believe.

About 340 of the posts support Dr. Paul. <smile.

I just read something that mentioned only 3-15 percent of WVa voters have been voting in recent elections. Even though it is a mostly Democratic state, it would seem Dr. Paul could do very well there. I did see however that WVa has dropped the primary in favor of a convention. That sounds strange and I am wondering if it is legal? Also wondering if it was done suddenly since they fear Dr. Paul is "trying to hijack" the Republican party.+

Anyone understand this move?

 

[Carole]

Yes, Post @223 is still there.