Silver linings search; Will this cluster weaken the presidency?

[WTLaw]

So here we are with probably a 2 horse races in both parties. Shit sandwich v. giant douche on the GOP side, I don't know what to call the DNC side....

I have talked to a lot of people who realistically don't like any of their options. Yes, there are cruz and trumps fans, but most people see them for what they are and are going to choose between people they dont like.

All along I have been searching for silver linings in this disaster. If there may be 1 silver lining out of this, is that that whomever we get as POTUS, they are going to be a total piece of shit loser that has little mandate to do anything. In that sense, maybe this will be the election that will teach people to stop looking to the President for answers (would thought they had learned it already...but)...Maybe there is a way to kickstart federalism after this election. Too optimistic, maybe?

And if that is the case, maybe it was a wise, although disappointing move for our favorite Senator the get the jump on getting back to the Senate, where maybe he can craft enough relationships and legislation to help this country withstand the wind that will blow.

 

[CPUd]

1 term

 

[WTLaw]

1 term

I'm certainly hoping for that, particularly with 3 people running in their 70s, and the last one being so hard to like once you know him.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Presidency is very strong, no worries.

 

[mczerone]

Predictions:

1) Bernie continues to win/do well in most primaries, enough to have popular support going into the DNC
2) Hillary and the DNC come out of the convention with a super-delegate win, VP pick doesn't appease most Bernie supporters.
3) Trump continues to win most primaries through Super Tuesday, no clear single alternative win unify anti-Trump GOP voters.
4) the RNC will go through the motions of nominating Trump, but the establishment won't be happy.
4a) Trump will select someone surprising for VP, maybe one of the Dem primary dropouts.
5) Major RNC backers will push a Bloomberg or other "outsider" candidate to run as an independent. (Someone with enough money to appear to be "self-funding" most of his early ballot drives, etc., but the donations will appear after there is a ~45 state ballot listing for the candidate).
6) Hillary wins the General: 32%, Trump 26%, Independent 20%, LP 14%, Green/Bernie alternative 5%.

ETA: Silver linings:

1) another generation of voters (Dems, this time) will be disillusioned with the major parties, and will start to seriously consider third parties/non-political solutions.

2) the GOP will be severely broken, and there will be a necessary realignment for the 2018 midterms, where the "major party status" of the GOP will be seriously questioned, possibly with the first real third party congressmen and senators (who might not be aligned with Liberty, but will nonetheless open the playing field for 2020 for the two new major parties being drastically different from now).

3) The Commission on Presidential Debates will open up their criteria to anyone on enough ballots to win so they don't have to give Trump equal billing with Hillary, getting at least the LP nominee on stage with them, and maybe even the Green candidate.

 

[derek4ever]

Predictions:

1) Bernie continues to win/do well in most primaries, enough to have popular support going into the DNC
2) Hillary and the DNC come out of the convention with a super-delegate win, VP pick doesn't appease most Bernie supporters.
3) Trump continues to win most primaries through Super Tuesday, no clear single alternative win unify anti-Trump GOP voters.
4) the RNC will go through the motions of nominating Trump, but the establishment won't be happy.
5) Major RNC backers will push a Bloomberg or other "outsider" candidate to run as an independent. (Someone with enough money to appear to be "self-funding" most of his early ballot drives, etc., but the donations will appear after there is a ~45 state ballot listing for the candidate).
6) Hillary wins the General: 32%, Trump 26%, Independent 20%, LP 14%, Green/Bernie alternative 5%.

What about the electoral vote? Who do you think the libertarians nominate??

 

[CPUd]

Isn't Bloomberg the reason people have to pay damn near $20 to drive their own cars into NYC?

 

[mczerone]

What about the electoral vote? Who do you think the libertarians nominate??

Hmm, electoral vote will take some research.

The LP nominee, in my prediction, will be Johnson again (not that I hope for that). There will be many ballots, much in-fighting, and broken compromises. I hope that the National Convention will be online, there may be fistfights (of course instigated by those delegates supporting Austin Peterson and the other non-NAP adherents of the delegation).

 

[randbot16]

Silver lining is that you can now tune out and focus your energy on things that matter. Even after donating $700 to Rand I felt relieved when he suspended. Its sickening to watch the media put him through the meat grinder. It's sickening to watch all the cardboard candidates pretend they are legitimate, and infuriating beyond belief when they act as if they are MORE legitimate than Rand. Fuck the whole process, fuck this country, and fuck the morons who continue to drool their way to the polls and vote for cardboard cutouts that function only as a facade to the same regime that has run this country since god knows when. Fuck them.