Sickening Hit Piece on Rand Paul Published in NY Times

[56ktarget]

Oh please. The article doesn't actually make any arguments. Its mostly just repeats of:

"This guy that's associated with this institute that his father is associated with said this or that (with almost zero context) and oooh look how extreme that view is!".

Isn't that exactly the type of guilt by association attacks that conservatives use to attack Obama (Ayers, Rev Wright, etc)?

 

[matt0611]

Isn't that exactly the type of guilt by association attacks that conservatives use to attack Obama (Ayers, Rev Wright, etc)?

Even if that is true so what? I'm responsible for what all "conservatives" say or something?

And are you really trying to compare a person's pastor that they listened to preach in their church for years, week after week, with a sentence fragment of something someone wrote in a book who teaches at his father's online home school course?

 

[56ktarget]

Even if that is true so what? I'm responsible for what all "conservatives" say or something?

And are you really trying to compare a person's pastor that preached in their church for years week after week with something someone wrote in a book that teaches at his father's home school curriculum?

Jack Hunter is a known racist who is a campaign manager to rand paul. Paul has so far refused to denounce him. Are you really trying to compare that to Obama, who has repeatedly denounced Wright many times?

 

[matt0611]

Jack Hunter is a known racist who is a campaign manager to rand paul. Paul has so far refused to denounce him. Are you really trying to compare that to Obama, who has repeatedly denounced Wright many times?

Jack Hunter isn't a racist. I've never heard him say or read anything he wrote that was racist.

 

[56ktarget]

What? He confessed he was racist in the past, look at this article he wrote:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ock-jock-jack-hunter-100261.html#.UuRt6RDTm00

I don't buy his half-assed apology myself.

 

[matt0611]

What? He confessed he was racist in the past, look at this article he wrote:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ock-jock-jack-hunter-100261.html#.UuRt6RDTm00

I don't buy his half-assed apology myself.

I still don't see anything he wrote or said that was overtly racist. He said he played one in the past and disavowed some of his previous beliefs or statements. And?...

I still don't see why Rand has to denounce him if he hasn't said anything offensive while he was working for him though.

 

[56ktarget]

You don't "play" at being a racist. If a video came out of Obama professing his support for Al Qaeda, and he got a ton of shit, would you believe his apology if it said he only "played" at being a terrorist?

 

[matt0611]

You don't "play" at being a racist. If a video came out of Obama professing his support for Al Qaeda, and he got a ton of shit, would you believe his apology if it said he only "played" at being a terrorist?

A President is different from a radio shock jock / DJ who worked for someone's campaign. Nice try with that comparison. But its a big fail.

And I also don't see why Rand should "denounce" someone who worked for his campaign who said things in the past that he himself disavows.

I never bought Obama's denouncing of Wright either, for the record.

 

[56ktarget]

A President is different from a radio shock jock / DJ. Nice try with that comparison. But its a big fail.

And I also don't see why Rand should "denounce" someone who worked for his campaign who said things in the past that he himself disavows.

I never bought Obama's denouncing of Wright either, for the record.

So why the hell would you buy Hunter's apology?

 

[matt0611]

So why the hell would you buy Hunter's apology?

Because I haven't seen him say or write anything that's remotely offensive in anything recent. That article is talking about things in 2003 and even earlier.

 

[56ktarget]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...and-paul-aide-has-history-of-racial-comments/

"Americans aren't wrong to deplore the millions of Mexicans coming here now," hewrote in 2007. "A non-white majority America would simply cease to be America for reasons that are as numerous as they are obvious – whether we are supposed to mention them or not."


That same year, discussing a racial disparity in school suspensions and expulsions, he wrote, "there are probably more black youth who deserve to be expelled ... who never receive proper punishment out of fear of accusations of 'racism.'"


In 2004, he lamented a "racial double standard" that meant that "Not only are whites not afforded the same right to celebrate their own cultural identity – but anything that is considered 'too white' is immediately suspect."

Another 2004 post declares that "not only was Abraham Lincoln the worst President, but one of the worst figures in American history" while arguing that "John Wilkes Booth's heart was in the right place" when he assassinated the president.

 

[matt0611]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...and-paul-aide-has-history-of-racial-comments/

"Americans aren't wrong to deplore the millions of Mexicans coming here now," hewrote in 2007. "A non-white majority America would simply cease to be America for reasons that are as numerous as they are obvious – whether we are supposed to mention them or not."


That same year, discussing a racial disparity in school suspensions and expulsions, he wrote, "there are probably more black youth who deserve to be expelled ... who never receive proper punishment out of fear of accusations of 'racism.'"


In 2004, he lamented a "racial double standard" that meant that "Not only are whites not afforded the same right to celebrate their own cultural identity – but anything that is considered 'too white' is immediately suspect."

Another 2004 post declares that "not only was Abraham Lincoln the worst President, but one of the worst figures in American history" while arguing that "John Wilkes Booth's heart was in the right place" when he assassinated the president.

I see nothing offensive there. I actually agree with most of that. And again, half of that is from a decade ago (2004) anyway.

 

[otherone]

"not only was Abraham Lincoln the worst President, but one of the worst figures in American history" while arguing that "John Wilkes Booth's heart was in the right place" when he assassinated the president.

How is this racist?

 

[56ktarget]

Three words: Dog whistle politics.

 

[brushfire]

More zombies, writing articles, in the NYT no less...

 

[otherone]

Three words: Dog whistle politics.

Was he a political figure when he made that statement? Am "I" a racist by voicing the same opinion? Is it possible to discuss state secession without being labeled a racist?

 

[Origanalist]

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Rand's never visited the Mises Institute?

... really? That... seems odd.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Was he a political figure when he made that statement? Am "I" a racist by voicing the same opinion? Is it possible to discuss state secession without being labeled a racist?

When people make this 'dog whistle' claim, they are saying that people are speaking in some kind of 'secret code' that only their followers can hear. talk about conspiracy theorists rofl!

 

[Origanalist]

When people make this 'dog whistle' claim, they are saying that people are speaking in some kind of 'secret code' that only their followers can hear. talk about conspiracy theorists rofl!

Is that why I can never see 56ktarget's posts?