SHTF in Missouri over Michael Brown "only good cop is a dead cop" sign found by news crew

[Origanalist]

They like to play fast and loose with vocabulary for effect, but some will take different view. "War" is most generally described as armed conflict between two sides. If that's they way they want to define it, then there is significance in this comment:




By the time there is war, then people have had enough. Armed conflict is the very consequence of people who've had enough.

If the police are going to be so dramatic, then they could not object to any casualties. Even war has rules. If you're a casualty of those rules, they you can't go back and redefine what is just.

You can't have it both ways. If you're going to define it as war, then you must be prepared to suffer the consequences. If citizens take lethal action against the other side, then that is justified in a "war zone."

I'm afraid there would be pretty heavy casualties as soon as hostilities commenced from what I just saw.

 

[SeanTX]

They say the autopsy is in, but they won't release the results. I suppose because some people might find it upsetting to hear how many times he was ventilated --I'm guessing 8-12 bullet wounds (not counting exit wounds).

 

[AuH20]

They like to play fast and loose with vocabulary for effect, but some will take different view. "War" is most generally described as armed conflict between two sides. If that's they way they want to define it, then there is significance in this comment:




By the time there is war, then people have had enough. Armed conflict is the very consequence of people who've had enough.

If the police are going to be so dramatic, then they could not object to any casualties. Even war has rules. If you're a casualty of those rules, they you can't go back and redefine what is just.

You can't have it both ways. If you're going to define it as war, then you must be prepared to suffer the consequences. If citizens take lethal action against the other side, then that is justified in a "war zone."

Gaks vs. ARs & MRAPs? It wouldn't end well.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Dead cops are good? I disagree.

 

[SeanTX]

A rumor, from a local on Reddit :

http://www.reddit.com/live/tdrph3y49ftn/

an hour ago

credible tip: Some Florissant police families are being evacuated from their houses due to threats against them and their families.

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Yep, it needs to be contained. Looks like Al Sharpton is already on top of it... we need more famous black people to speak up, like I don't know, Cornel West maybe?

Unfortunately Cornel West isn't as well-known within the black community as compared to figures like Sharpton and Jackson.

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Oh bullshit. How about everyone should take responsibility for their actions.

They aren't "oppressed" any more than anyone else. They need to pull their pants up and start taking responsibility for themselves, rather than ask government to subsidize them.

Bullshit. You're an older white woman who has no clue as to what it's like to be born into a slum environment where you're surrounded by violence, drugs, and police harassment, all of which is courtesy of a government that you cannot combat (through peace or force).

 

[dillo]

is anyone gathering pictures of the wonderful heroes in blue with their weapons of war on the streets. I saw some scary shit earlier.

 

[AuH20]

Bullshit. You're an older white woman who has no clue as to what it's like to be born into a slum environment where you're surrounded by violence, drugs, and police harassment, all of which is courtesy of a government that you cannot combat (through peace or force).

True, but a sizable majority of these people openly embrace the very same government that has perpetrated the Tuskegee Experiment and host of other social ills (abortion) upon them. It's a bizarre phenomenon to witness. They have no qualms about taking perks from said government, but then lament the negative repercussions associated with the relationship. A logical person would call for a divorce instead of continually reinforcing such misdeeds. There really can't be a middle ground. You're either a ward of the state or a free man.

 

[Henry Rogue]

I don't get why they're looting businesses. Go loot the PD.

Because they don't have a death wish.

 

[Henry Rogue]

is anyone gathering pictures of the wonderful heroes in blue with their weapons of war on the streets. I saw some scary shit earlier.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?457742-This-Is-The-Terrifying-Result-Of-The-Militarization-Of-Police-Ferguson

 

[James Madison]

Bullshit. You're an older white woman who has no clue as to what it's like to be born into a slum environment where you're surrounded by violence, drugs, and police harassment, all of which is courtesy of a government that you cannot combat (through peace or force).

Ageism, racism, and sexism all in the same sentence. Doubleplusgood, comrade. Old white people need to sit down and shut-up.

This fuckin shit on RPFs? Seriously?

 

[Origanalist]

Ageism, racism, and sexism all in the same sentence. Doubleplusgood, comrade. Old white people need to sit down and shut-up.

This fuckin shit on RPFs? Seriously?

Lol, you never heard it here before?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Not for nothing, but pull your fucking pants up.

Mike Brown might have been able to run away, if he wasn't wearing his pants around his knees.

Tighten up muthafuckers, you got cops now looking to incinerate you folks.

 

[mczerone]

Oh bullshit. How about everyone should take responsibility for their actions.

They aren't "oppressed" any more than anyone else. They need to pull their pants up and start taking responsibility for themselves, rather than ask government to subsidize them.

"Proper English" aside - what kind of problem do you have with people standing in their own back yard while a phalanx of the enemy march down their street and fire tear-gas at what appears to be minority females? These guys in the last video before your post were wearing white T-shirts, held their hands up to demonstrate that they weren't a threat, and got fired upon IN THEIR GODDAMNED BACK YARD.

I had to delete the rest of my post, lest I violate some Forum Rules on you.

 

[mczerone]

Not for nothing, but pull your fucking pants up.

Mike Brown might have been able to run away, if he wasn't wearing his pants around his knees.

Tighten up muthafuckers, you got cops now looking to incinerate you folks.

C'mon, comrad. We should pull our pants DOWN to show support for these people; It aint no property rights violation to show ya' drawers.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I'm afraid there would be pretty heavy casualties as soon as hostilities commenced from what I just saw.

Gaks vs. ARs & MRAPs? It wouldn't end well.

I agree. That is the difference between looting and the purpose some of those people had at the Bundy Ranch. The Bundy Ranch could have ended up very bad. The government however, perceived themselves as having more to lose than people who drove hundreds of miles, at least at that moment in time (the time that counted).

I think at a very micro level some of the decision-makers in these things are just not willing to take any risk. It's very easy for them to ride around playing cowboys and Indians in scenarios like this. The individual order enforcement officers in their 20s and 30s probably (and generally) perceive themselves as having more to lose in life than some of the Ferguson citizens in their 20s and 30s.

The risk for the police right now is actually very low. They will however, downplay that for effect and justification. They know they must keep a solid show because people in more desperate situations don't as carefully consider long term consequences of confrontational actions. The flip side of that is that people like these looters are a galaxy away from the purpose of the Bundy Ranch.

 

[Origanalist]

I agree. That is the difference between looting and the purpose some of those people had at the Bundy Ranch. The Bundy Ranch could have ended up very bad. The government however, perceived themselves as having more to lose than people who drove hundreds of miles, at least at that moment in time (the time that counted).

I think at a very micro level some of the decision-makers in these things are just not willing to take any risk. It's very easy for them to ride around playing cowboys and Indians in scenarios like this. The individual order enforcement officers in their 20s and 30s probably (and generally) perceive themselves as having more to lose in life than some of the Ferguson citizens in their 20s and 30s.

The risk for the police right now is actually very low. They will however, downplay that for effect and justification. They know they must keep a solid show because people in more desperate situations don't as carefully consider long term consequences of confrontational actions. The flip side of that is that people like these looters are a galaxy away from the purpose of the Bundy Ranch.

For now, yes. I don't see them staying that way much longer.

 

[mczerone]

True, but a sizable majority of these people openly embrace the very same government that has perpetrated the Tuskegee Experiment and host of other social ills (abortion) upon them. It's a bizarre phenomenon to witness. They have no qualms about taking perks from said government, but then lament the negative repercussions associated with the relationship. A logical person would call for a divorce instead of continually reinforcing such misdeeds. There really can't be a middle ground.

How many of them, or any random Americans, have EVER CONSIDERED that the govt is the enemy?

It's not their fault that the state's indoctrination program sank feelers deep into their skulls and wallets. They are fighting because they know what's wrong. They are simply ignorant as to what's RIGHT.

(And it's no different than a TEA party rally waving flags and wanting their pet govt programs, or a NORML rally starting with the Star-Spangled Banner, or anyone who says "I love my country, but...")

A logical and KNOWLEDGEABLE person with a SUPPORT NETWORK seeks a divorce. A prisoner-wife that hasn't seen the outside world since before she was ten, doesn't have anybody to help her support herself through the divorce, can't afford an attorney, and is told that divorce is a sin for which she'll be sent to hell isn't at fault for not seeing the "simple" solution.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

True, but a sizable majority of these people openly embrace the very same government that has perpetrated the Tuskegee Experiment and host of other social ills (abortion) upon them. It's a bizarre phenomenon to witness. They have no qualms about taking perks from said government, but then lament the negative repercussions associated with the relationship. A logical person would call for a divorce instead of continually reinforcing such misdeeds. There really can't be a middle ground. You're either a ward of the state or a free man.

I agree with this, but it goes well beyond small demographics. Seems to me that a majority of people don't even recognize poor thinking patterns. I live in an area where many, many people are gun rights advocates. These same people who criticize government on the gun issue are the same people who empower government in other ways. They are--for lack of a better term--typical conservatives who advocate government be very active in certain aspects of society. They don't even recognize that strongly empowering government in these other areas adversely diminishes their rights in areas like firearms.