Should We Support Widespread Ads Exposing McCain As a Known and Admitted Adulterer?

[Mani]

http://www.azcentral.com/news/specials/mccain/articles/0301mccainbio-chapter5.html

The early years. Funny, they call him a flip-flopper in the 80's. At least some things don't change.

 

[davidkachel]

Absolutely we should support getting the truth out about a candidate, conservatives went nuts on Bill Clinton for getting a blow job and impeached him. . .now, there's a "conservative" candidate who cheated on his first wife many, many times with prostitutes and had a mistress.

Then he marries the mistress and has likely cheated on her. If it was that important to Republicans when it was Clinton, it should be even more important when it's their own candidate.

They wouldn't want to be hypocrites, would they?

It was wrong when they did it to Clinton and it is STILL wrong now that they are trying to do it to McCain.

WE must be better than the sleazy dirtbags who have seized control of our country. Don't you folks get it? The same kind of thinking that says it is OK to peer into someone's bedroom also says it is OK to listen in on our phone calls, pry into our financial affairs and torture anyone "suspected" of behavior we don't like.

If we can't take the high ground, we don't deserve any ground.

 

[acptulsa]

They wouldn't want to be hypocrites, would they?

Amy, you made me choke on my coffee. No, they wouldn't want to be hypocrites, but they wouldn't let it stop them, either.

Whether you are trying to show the true colors of a candidate you know to be a blatant opportunist and a borderline psychopath or are just trying to teach that adulterer and liar a lesson for calling your man a kook, I say we let Dr. Paul stay above the fray and we dig our fingers down in our nice grass roots and we pick up lots of mud and we fling away.

And I have, too. After all, I don't spend my whole workday on this site.

 

[Mark]

And how exactly is it that we acquired this monopoly on "the TRUTH"? You are rationalizing reprehensible behavior.
That is exactly how our country got into its current mess...
public officials rationalizing their betrayal of the public trust.

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Quit twisting my words into something they never resembled in the first place.

A part of Truth is NOT a monopoly on it. Duh.


You're rationalizing keeping the voter's heads in the sand on a critical issue about a candidate's moral character.

Which IS exactly how we got into this mess.

Once people actually see the REAL John McCain, they'll make up their own minds, and we ALL can begin to get out of this mess.

To create a TRUE "public trust" we have to know WHO to trust. And McCain ain't it.
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[Mark]

It was wrong when they did it to Clinton and it is STILL wrong now that they are trying to do it to McCain.

WE must be better than the sleazy dirtbags who have seized control of our country. Don't you folks get it? The same kind of thinking that says it is OK to peer into someone's bedroom also says it is OK to listen in on our phone calls, pry into our financial affairs and torture anyone "suspected" of behavior we don't like.

If we can't take the high ground, we don't deserve any ground.

And you believe the "high ground" is to ignore the truth?

And to assist in keeping truth hidden?


Again, it's NOT about WHAT he did, it's ABOUT his CHARACTER.

We're NOT "peering into his bedroom", we're showing him as the scum that he REALLY is.
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[Mark]

Absolutely we should support getting the truth out about a candidate, conservatives went nuts on Bill Clinton for getting a blow job and impeached him. . .now, there's a "conservative" candidate who cheated on his first wife many, many times with prostitutes and had a mistress.

Then he marries the mistress and has likely cheated on her. If it was that important to Republicans when it was Clinton, it should be even more important when it's their own candidate.

They wouldn't want to be hypocrites, would they?

And it would be a good way to "cleanse" the Republican Party of the hypocrites that are in control now

by showing their hypocrisy in this matter if they continue to back McCain.
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[Banana]

I'd like to repeat the suggestion:

Just print ads about Paul being a solid family man. No need to mention McCain. Let the voters do the math.

 

[filmmaker58]

Adulterer and gun grabber.

http://www.gunowners.org/mccaintb.htm

 

[Mark]

I'd like to repeat the suggestion:

Just print ads about Paul being a solid family man. No need to mention McCain. Let the voters do the math.

They have to know what data to include and their values in order to perform accurate calculations.
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[Banana]

The media is running away with the story. Can't imagine how an average Joe Sixpack not missing this watching his daily dose of MSM. Even if he happened to be mowing the lawn when it aired, he'll get a rehash of it later and wise up.

 

[freelance]

No doubt he'll blame it all on PTSD. What part of the ADA says we have to elect a moron with post-traumatic stress?

Well, if people with PTSD can't own guns, then he SURE AS HELL shouldn't be allowed to play with nuclear toys.

 

[freelance]

How can we be sure other groups will let people know about it?

We don't have time to "wait and see" if anyone else picks up the ball and runs with it.

There are grassroots PACS ready to go that will address other issues as well to stay in compliance with FEC regs,
it isn't just about this issue, but others as well.

It's just that this issue "iron" is red hot right now, as hot as it will get, and this opportunity will only knock once.

We can stay "clean" by not being hateful and vindictive, and just speaking truth.

In fact, that's the only angle I would support.

Not personal attacks, "just the facts Ma'am" (or Sir)

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Yeah, I understand what you're saying. (BTW, no hard feelings about last summer!)

Anyway, I can't be certain, but I CAN be certain that the vets are furious about the MIA/POW situation, and while I understand that the base is more concerned with adultery than abandoning our soldiers, I think that the vets will do a sterling job of educating the most amount of people--best bang for the buck.

OTOH, I think that the whole situation with this consultant--IF it proves to be true-- is HUGE, as well. It won't take more than a few days to organize a PAC, fund it, and let 'er rip.

I hesitate to jump the gun until we are DEAD certain. No one, not even John McCain deserves to have this attributed to him or her, unless it's true. I suspect that we'll know in short order. If the NYT has the goods, we'll know in the next 24 hours, don't ya think?

 

[Mark]

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. (BTW, no hard feelings about last summer!)

Anyway, I can't be certain, but I CAN be certain that the vets are furious about the MIA/POW situation, and while I understand that the base is more concerned with adultery than abandoning our soldiers, I think that the vets will do a sterling job of educating the most amount of people--best bang for the buck.

OTOH, I think that the whole situation with this consultant--IF it proves to be true-- is HUGE, as well. It won't take more than a few days to organize a PAC, fund it, and let 'er rip.

I hesitate to jump the gun until we are DEAD certain. No one, not even John McCain deserves to have this attributed to him or her, unless it's true. I suspect that we'll know in short order. If the NYT has the goods, we'll know in the next 24 hours, don't ya think?

Last summer? Forgotten.

I'm so furious about the POW's that I voted for Perot twice because I knew he'd get to the bottom of it.

In fact, I've bought the domains:

TrueJohn.com, TrueMcCain.com, McCainTruth.com, McCainTruthSquad.com, McCainsTruthSquad.com

just for that very reason.


The affair with his current wife is just more Truth to use.


And, a PAC is EASY to start.

You don't even have to report it to the FEC until you've received/spent $1000, and you have 10 days to report after that.


I've bought and hosted TruePAC.com as well to use in general for various Truth revealing ads and efforts.

(links there now are from a grassroots conference call)


And a PayPal email to use: [email protected]

I'm loaded for bear and ready to fire Truth, today AND into the future, on EVERY true fact we can find that will help our Freedom Revolution.


Agreed, TODAY'S news story still needs details filled in,

but the fact that McCain's admitted about cheating on his crippled wife is already documented.


That detail's NOT being covered today, and we need to inform voters about McCain's admitted adulterous history.
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[Live Free or Die]

While Executive Officer and later as Squadron Commander McCain used his authority to arrange frequent flights that allowed him to carouse with subordinates and "engage in extra-marital affairs."
[...]
Timberg wrote, "Off duty, usually on routine cross-country flights to Yuma and El Centro, John started carousing and running around with women.
[...]
While still married to Carol, McCain began an adulterous relationship with Cindy.

http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcaindiv.htm

Well! If this doesn't beg the nickname McChlamydia or McClap... Hell, add in McSyphilis- he exhibits plenty of the symptoms.

To answer the OP: Sure, I would support any existing group that has been working to bring to light any & all facts about John McClap, however distasteful and salacious they may be to the sensibilities of some people. (Perhaps those same people who decried Rep. Paul as a racist for not micro-managing his old newsletter when at least one writer was publishing derogatory comments under Rep. Paul's name?)

However, I would not support a group of Ron Paul supporters doing this. "Ron Paul supporters" are already being blamed for "creating" the Larry Sinclair/Obama oral sex & crack cocaine story. Actually, I've read it as coming from the "Ron Paul CAMPAIGN," and that is really unfortunate, as we all know Rep. Paul does not, has not, and will not, stoop to such levels. I believe we should leave these endeavors to the veterans' and anti-lobbyists' groups who have been tracking McClap for years; Support these groups as a United States Citizen.

So I would suggest we stay on the road less traveled- the high road- as Dr. Paul would, and keep in mind his message to us about "having fun!"

 

[TXcarlosTX]

we need to start playing dirty.... i saw bombs away!!!!

 

[Mark]

They're re-showing the morning McCain news conference on CSpan now

 

[freelance]

Oh my, OH MY! Payback--even before we lift a finger:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Whoops_McCain_fails_to_collect_enough_0221.html

 

[jrich4rpaul]

Do it

 

[Mani]

In the coverage this morning of the McCain possible scandal, I heard a reporter asking John a question and they used "Blowback" in their question.


I chuckled to myself, thanks RP for adding that term to this 2008 campaign.

 

[nate895]

Brings whole new meaning to the claim, "Dr. Paul has earned a solid reputation for just saying no to lobbyists," doesn't it?

Yes it does.