The Binghamton Patriot
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riseagainst = globalist
Your analysis of our need for laws and government is very distorted. There is a need for government, as much as you hate it. You would have no protection of your natural rights without government. I hate the government, but without it we would have no mechanism for protecting our rights. Stop referring to it as, "The body 'claiming a monopoly on violence'." What world are you living in? A society without laws is no society at all. The law is the collective organization of one's right to justice and due process. The law is established, as are borders. If you don't agree with our border, renounce your citizenship and go to mexico and fight for them. When nation states and laws are formed, they are recognized within certain boundaries and are enforced accordingly. Under your scenario, you would dissipate all borders along with all of the laws within them. There are borders both at the north and at the south of this country, which define people that live different lifestyles and under different bodies of laws. Laws and culture do not transcend borders, and they never have. When you cross the border of a neighboring country without being invited, you are an INVADER. When you cross onto your neighbors property, you are trespassing. This is no different. I'm not advocating any type of socialism or collectivized control over the means of production, so stop with the demagoguery.
There is nothing wrong with nationalism. If you don't like it, get out. What is a nation? A nation is an organic mixture of culture, lifestyle, social habits, faith, language, BORDERS, BLOOD, SOIL, and history. Blood spilled in the past which has allowed you to speak here on this forum without fear of persecution is the destination to which your loyalty is surely owed. If you don't like that, move out. Liberty does not transcend borders, and is earned by those who have spilled blood in the fight against tyranny. Resistance to tyranny is obedience to god. These are principles which are engrained into our declaration and constitution. This is what we are preserving; under your logic, we would ignore all history and aloofly expect people to cooperate non violently. You're living in fantasy land, and the rights which you claim are tied to "individual sovereignty" would be stolen from you without the laws, history and tradition that I seek to preserve. The constitution is the most sublime governing document ever contrived by human intelligence, and without it, and under some anarcho-capitalist utopia with no laws, you have no recourse to justice in the event of harm or malfeasance.
Because it's not? Where to you fail to see that what you're advocating is national socialism?
Incorrect. The body claiming a monopoly on violence has drawn imaginary lines to identify the region of it's professed monopoly, and by decree declaring all those within those lines to be it's subjects, and all those outside it's borders nominally interesting inasmuch as they can be viewed as possible future subjects.
Okay. The earth was flat, established for a 'long time'. Please don't be so naive as to claim time is an argument.
Completely agreed. The erosion of individual sovereignty is utterly destroyed by the state, as evidenced by this very thread.
Quite. As are nations and Nations (or nationstates). As are government and The State.
We need to preserve what nation? We need to preserve the geographic land mass? I was unaware that our landmass was being stolen and taken elsewhere. Need to preserve the monopoly on violence? For what? I have no need to oppress my fellow man against his will.
Stop with the "Der Fatherland" crap and just admit that you really really hate anyone who is different from you.
I can't understand how any rational, liberty minded human being could ever advocate for the destruction of individual liberty in the name of a piece of cloth and some dye.
'Murrica, FUCK YEAH! Being a rational self-owner, observant of natural rights and individual sovereignty hold no nationality.
Do you songwrite for Toby Keith? Your bloodlust and nationalistic thuggery literally make me want to vomit.
Your analysis of our need for laws and government is very distorted. There is a need for government, as much as you hate it. You would have no protection of your natural rights without government. I hate the government, but without it we would have no mechanism for protecting our rights. Stop referring to it as, "The body 'claiming a monopoly on violence'." What world are you living in? A society without laws is no society at all. The law is the collective organization of one's right to justice and due process. The law is established, as are borders. If you don't agree with our border, renounce your citizenship and go to mexico and fight for them. When nation states and laws are formed, they are recognized within certain boundaries and are enforced accordingly. Under your scenario, you would dissipate all borders along with all of the laws within them. There are borders both at the north and at the south of this country, which define people that live different lifestyles and under different bodies of laws. Laws and culture do not transcend borders, and they never have. When you cross the border of a neighboring country without being invited, you are an INVADER. When you cross onto your neighbors property, you are trespassing. This is no different. I'm not advocating any type of socialism or collectivized control over the means of production, so stop with the demagoguery.
There is nothing wrong with nationalism. If you don't like it, get out. What is a nation? A nation is an organic mixture of culture, lifestyle, social habits, faith, language, BORDERS, BLOOD, SOIL, and history. Blood spilled in the past which has allowed you to speak here on this forum without fear of persecution is the destination to which your loyalty is surely owed. If you don't like that, move out. Liberty does not transcend borders, and is earned by those who have spilled blood in the fight against tyranny. Resistance to tyranny is obedience to god. These are principles which are engrained into our declaration and constitution. This is what we are preserving; under your logic, we would ignore all history and aloofly expect people to cooperate non violently. You're living in fantasy land, and the rights which you claim are tied to "individual sovereignty" would be stolen from you without the laws, history and tradition that I seek to preserve. The constitution is the most sublime governing document ever contrived by human intelligence, and without it, and under some anarcho-capitalist utopia with no laws, you have no recourse to justice in the event of harm or malfeasance.