Should we Deport Her? College student never "broke the law" until now.

[Cutlerzzz]

I voted no because I can't imagine telling someone they have to leave this beautiful country. If she committed a crime, punish her. Don't make her leave the US.

Besides, she looks like she would be an asset to the gene pool.

I'd love to.

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Deport her. We have become a selfish nation. South American countries deserve hot girls too.

 

[Cabal]

Or just simply have a different opinion than you...

Yes, one that is not cohesive with the philosophy of liberty.

Or perhaps you'd like to explain how limiting the free, voluntary movement of non-violent people across imaginary lines drawn on a map by people who existed far before anyone alive was even a twinkle in their father's eye, by way of force, has anything to do with liberty.

 

[1000-points-of-fright]

Apparently father became citizen when she was 15 and they moved here.

I don't know who dropped the ball, but 2 or 3 years when by and when she turned 18, as you said, she "aged out"

Too much bureaucracy to figure out whose fault it is, I'm sure..

The article is not exactly clear what happened. It says her father IS a citizen. It doesn't say he was a citizen when they first arrived, so I'm assuming he had some sort of visa. If he became a citizen while she was a minor he would not have had to petition for her. She would have automatically been granted citizenship along with him.

Without a precise timeline it's hard to say exactly who dropped the ball here.

 

[The Binghamton Patriot]

Yes, one that is not cohesive with the philosophy of liberty.

Or perhaps you'd like to explain how limiting the free, voluntary movement of non-violent people across imaginary lines drawn on a map by people who existed far before anyone alive was even a twinkle in their father's eye, by way of force, has anything to do with liberty.

Here my friends, we have a transnationalist.

The definition of transnationalism:

Transnationalism is a social phenomenon and scholarly research agenda grown out of the heightened interconnectivity between people and the receding economic and social significance of boundaries among nation states.

The term was coined in the early 20th century by writer Randolph Bourne to describe a new way of thinking about relationships between cultures.

Transnationalism as an economic process involves the global reorganization of the production process, in which various stages of the production of any product can occur in various countries, typically with the aim of minimizing costs. Economic transnationalism, commonly known as Globalization was spurred in the latter half of the 20th century by the development of the internet and wireless communication, as well as the reduction in global transportation costs caused by containerization. Multinational corporations could be seen as a form of transnationalism, in that they seek to minimize costs, and hence maximize profits, by organizing their operations in the most efficient means possible irrespective of political boundaries.

Proponents of transnationalism seek to facilitate the flow of people, ideas, and goods among regions. They believe that it has increasing relevance with the rapid growth of globalization. They contend that it does not make sense to link specific nation-state boundaries with for instance migratory workforces, globalized corporations, global money flow, global information flow, and global scientific cooperation.

Transnationalism also refers to a recent shift in migration patterns since the 1980s (see transmigrant). Migration used to be a rather directed movement with a point of departure and a point of arrival. It is nowadays increasingly turning into an ongoing movement between two or more social spaces or locations. Facilitated by increased global transportation and telecommunication technologies, more and more migrants have developed strong transnational ties to more than one home country, blurring the congruence of social space and geographic space.

Diasporas, such as the overseas Chinese, are a historical precursor to modern transnationalism. However, unlike people with transnationalist lives, most diasporas have not been voluntary. The field of diaspora politics does consider modern diasporas as having the potential to be transnational political actors.

Examples of internationalism include United Nations, international treaties, international customs and tariffs regulations[clarification needed]. Examples of transnationalism include NGOs such as Greenpeace or Médecins sans Frontières, global financial activities, global science research, and global environmental concerns[clarification needed].


cabal, I have seen so many of you pro-open borders people on this forum and your hypocrisy is so disgusting it makes me want to cringe. You are a watered down version of a globalist and a 2nd rate clown. Please stop rationalizing your desire for open borders with irrational statements like this. You have been seductively cloaking your globalism under the guise of liberty for too long. k thx

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I wonder if some of you who posted earlier would deport her ^ .

I don't advocate deportation of anyone because it doesn't work and its not compatible with my beliefs. I do believe in having people go through a legal process but I don't believe in that process being so difficult and strenuous that it costs thousands upon thousands of dollars for people who are trying to escape poverty and terrible environments they were born into. If social welfare was done away with and the legal procedures were loosened up for people we wouldn't have the stupid problems we have in regards to immigration. The "war on drugs" is now tied into the immigration issue and without fixing the war on drugs by ending it I see no end to people crossing the borders illegally. Anyhow...life is more valuable than a piece of paper imo,it would take a decade or decades to reverse all the stupid regulations in place that prevent people from becoming citizens even when they have visas and try to become citizens and their visas expire making their situations a nightmare of endless paperwork and thousands of dollars in that 1 in a million chance that they may hopefully become american citizens.

 

[eduardo89]

Apparently father became citizen when she was 15 and they moved here.

I don't know who dropped the ball, but 2 or 3 years when by and when she turned 18, as you said, she "aged out"

Too much bureaucracy to figure out whose fault it is, I'm sure..

Usually as long as you hand in the paperwork before you turn 18 you're fine. Something about this story is off, if her dad got citizenship when she was 15, he should have added all his Dependents on his citizenship paperwork and she would have gotten it with him. She even had 3 years to apply after he did.

I say deport her. Hot or not, she's there illegally.

 

[Cutlerzzz]

So if I marry her, can she still live here?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Who said we are all libertarians?

I never said anyone was "libertarian". Readers comprehension 101.

 

[cindy25]

it is my understanding any member of congress (House or Senate) can sponsor a private bill which puts the process on hold. does notneed to pass, just to be introduced.

it might be a way to pick up Hispanic votes, and doing the right thing at the same time.

there are questions that have to be answered first, was she working legally? driving legally?

undocumented or green card holder?

 

[azxd]

I'm having a hard time understanding the comments of some people.

Reyna moved to the country with her family in February 2004 on a six-month visitor’s visa.

Dad did the right thing, failed to do the right thing for his daughter, most likely kept her here without her knowing she was doing something illegal, or maybe she did !!
How did she get into school ??
Revoke Dad's citizenship and send them both home.

She didn't "age" out of the system ... She was given a 6 month visitors VISA, and she stayed beyond her welcome.

Send her home, Send Obama's Aunt home, and Send that Uncle of his somewhere, just because.

If she had killed someone while doing her DUI thing, all the other crimes would still have been committed.

She's obviously been breaking other laws while here, and Dad has been an accessory to these crimes.

But let's forget all the cries about how the POTUS is playing favorites, and trying to give emnesty to Millions, so they can vote for him ... Please re-evaluate your principles, people !!!
If this doesn't apply to you, nevermind


Side Note:
I flipped on FAUX news earlier, and the lady on there talking about the girl who wants society to pay for her contraceptives put reality into very simple worlds.
We gave up "Give me Liberty, or Give Me Death", and replaced it with "Give me Liberty, and Give Me, Give Me, Give Me"

 

[RiseAgainst]

Here my friends, we have a transnationalist.

The definition of transnationalism:

Transnationalism is a social phenomenon and scholarly research agenda grown out of the heightened interconnectivity between people and the receding economic and social significance of boundaries among nation states.

The term was coined in the early 20th century by writer Randolph Bourne to describe a new way of thinking about relationships between cultures.

Transnationalism as an economic process involves the global reorganization of the production process, in which various stages of the production of any product can occur in various countries, typically with the aim of minimizing costs. Economic transnationalism, commonly known as Globalization was spurred in the latter half of the 20th century by the development of the internet and wireless communication, as well as the reduction in global transportation costs caused by containerization. Multinational corporations could be seen as a form of transnationalism, in that they seek to minimize costs, and hence maximize profits, by organizing their operations in the most efficient means possible irrespective of political boundaries.

Proponents of transnationalism seek to facilitate the flow of people, ideas, and goods among regions. They believe that it has increasing relevance with the rapid growth of globalization. They contend that it does not make sense to link specific nation-state boundaries with for instance migratory workforces, globalized corporations, global money flow, global information flow, and global scientific cooperation.

Transnationalism also refers to a recent shift in migration patterns since the 1980s (see transmigrant). Migration used to be a rather directed movement with a point of departure and a point of arrival. It is nowadays increasingly turning into an ongoing movement between two or more social spaces or locations. Facilitated by increased global transportation and telecommunication technologies, more and more migrants have developed strong transnational ties to more than one home country, blurring the congruence of social space and geographic space.

Diasporas, such as the overseas Chinese, are a historical precursor to modern transnationalism. However, unlike people with transnationalist lives, most diasporas have not been voluntary. The field of diaspora politics does consider modern diasporas as having the potential to be transnational political actors.

Examples of internationalism include United Nations, international treaties, international customs and tariffs regulations[clarification needed]. Examples of transnationalism include NGOs such as Greenpeace or Médecins sans Frontières, global financial activities, global science research, and global environmental concerns[clarification needed].


cabal, I have seen so many of you pro-open borders people on this forum and your hypocrisy is so disgusting it makes me want to cringe. You are a watered down version of a globalist and a 2nd rate clown. Please stop rationalizing your desire for open borders with irrational statements like this. k thx

Lol, people who don't want to shove guns in peoples faces are irrational. People who do are rational. Got it. kthxbai

 

[azxd]

it is my understanding any member of congress (House or Senate) can sponsor a private bill which puts the process on hold. does notneed to pass, just to be introduced.

it might be a way to pick up Hispanic votes, and doing the right thing at the same time.

Why do you think Obama and his minions have been pushing this legislation ?

 

[azxd]

Usually as long as you hand in the paperwork before you turn 18 you're fine. Something about this story is off, if her dad got citizenship when she was 15, he should have added all his Dependents on his citizenship paperwork and she would have gotten it with him. She even had 3 years to apply after he did.

I say deport her. Hot or not, she's there illegally.

And there you have it !!!

 

[The Binghamton Patriot]

Lol, people who don't want to shove guns in peoples faces are irrational. People who do are rational. Got it. kthxbai

from where did you get "shoving guns in peoples faces".

this girl should be deported because she overstayed her visa. If she played by the rules, and went back to guatamala, from where she came, she wouldn't have gotten into this problem.

 

[azxd]

from where did you get "shoving guns in peoples faces".

this girl should be deported because she overstayed her visa. If she played by the rules, and went back to guatamala, from where she came, she wouldn't have gotten into this problem.

Agreed, and am wondering if this might somehow jeopardize the fathers naturalization ... It can be revoked, can it not ?

 

[RiseAgainst]

from where did you get "shoving guns in peoples faces".

this girl should be deported because she overstayed her visa. If she played by the rules, and went back to guatamala, from where she came, she wouldn't have gotten into this problem.

So you're just going to 'kindly ask her to leave and hope she does'? If that is your position, go ahead I have no problem with it.

Somehow, I have a sneaking suspicion you're going to lean on hired goons with guns to FORCE her to leave. That is called shoving guns in peoples faces. I know it's inconvenient for you to face the reality of what you endorse, but trying to hide it doesn't make it go away.

Human beings are human beings. They have no more rights if they are born inside the imaginary lines drawn on your favorite politicians wall, and no less if they are born outside of said lines.

 

[Enforcer]

If she was intelligent, she'd know she was here illegally.

Bleeding heart liberals..."it's not her fault!!!"

If you were intelligent, you'd realize she is NOT here "illegally."

 

[Enforcer]

I'm having a hard time understanding the comments of some people.

Dad did the right thing, failed to do the right thing for his daughter, most likely kept her here without her knowing she was doing something illegal, or maybe she did !!
How did she get into school ??
Revoke Dad's citizenship and send them both home.

She didn't "age" out of the system ... She was given a 6 month visitors VISA, and she stayed beyond her welcome.

Send her home, Send Obama's Aunt home, and Send that Uncle of his somewhere, just because.

If she had killed someone while doing her DUI thing, all the other crimes would still have been committed.

She's obviously been breaking other laws while here, and Dad has been an accessory to these crimes.

But let's forget all the cries about how the POTUS is playing favorites, and trying to give emnesty to Millions, so they can vote for him ... Please re-evaluate your principles, people !!!
If this doesn't apply to you, nevermind


Side Note:
I flipped on FAUX news earlier, and the lady on there talking about the girl who wants society to pay for her contraceptives put reality into very simple worlds.
We gave up "Give me Liberty, or Give Me Death", and replaced it with "Give me Liberty, and Give Me, Give Me, Give Me"

As if that response wasn't bad enough, the word is AMNESTY. BTW, are you against amnesty OR just when it applies to foreigners?

 

[azxd]

So you're just going to 'kindly ask her to leave and hope she does'? If that is your position, go ahead I have no problem with it.

Somehow, I have a sneaking suspicion you're going to lean on hired goons with guns to FORCE her to leave. That is called shoving guns in peoples faces. I know it's inconvenient for you to face the reality of what you endorse, but trying to hide it doesn't make it go away.

Human beings are human beings. They have no more rights if they are born inside the imaginary lines drawn on your favorite politicians wall, and no less if they are born outside of said lines.

Change the law, or end law enforcement ... Those are your options.

Do you not see that she did in fact break the law ?