Should the U.S. End Aid to Israel?

[american empire]

but dont you see.... that aid is crack for the hooker...keeps them coming back for more till they will do anything for more.....\and i dont mean it specifically for Israel....
any country in the world....the only counties that dont take it are then ostracized and the "axis of what you know"....the only way we do it is by giving aid....then when countries cant pay back we tell them what to do...if they dont we ask them to payback in terms of natural resources and political approval and opening of their maketsto our greedy corporations.......

btw have you ever thought if there was no Israel (and for benny....i do recognize the right of Israel to exist peacefully)....what would happen to the Arab states?...oh there would be no need for the billions of dollar sales of defense equipment...i think boeing would be pissed and so would some defense contractors...btw the only thing now we export lucratively is stuff that kills people or is intended to.....there would be no need to look up to the mighty US to broker a deal and appease the Israels....

I am for stopping all aid ....unless a certain country is faced with a natural disaster ...i dont see any reason to fund any country for "good" behavior....

 

[Kalifornia]

kidding right? liberty is never spread by force.

end all aid everywhere.

Tell that to the Founding Fathers, who achieved liberty through force, with the help of French arms and naval assistance.

I agree that other than arming burgeoning liberty movements (small arms), we should end all other aid.

 

[Kraig]

Tell that to the Founding Fathers, who achieved liberty through force, with the help of French arms and naval assistance.

I agree that other than arming burgeoning liberty movements (small arms), we should end all other aid.

There is a difference between "spreading" liberty to people who have not even asked for it and fighting for you own individual sake.

 

[Kalifornia]

There is a difference between "spreading" liberty to people who have not even asked for it and fighting for you own individual sake.

I agree. That is why I advocate supporting people materially who are fighting for their own liberty, not invading foreign countries. The trouble is determining who is genuinely interested in liberty.

 

[constituent]

Tell that to the Founding Fathers, who achieved liberty through force, with the help of French arms and naval assistance.

I agree that other than arming burgeoning liberty movements (small arms), we should end all other aid.

liberty for whom? the slaves or just their owners?

 

[AmericaFyeah92]

I agree. That is why I advocate supporting people materially who are fighting for their own liberty, not invading foreign countries. The trouble is determining who is genuinely interested in liberty.

Th French weren't aiding us in the name of liberty, they were a corrupt Monarchy/Oligarchy that just wanted to weaken Britain however possible.

Actually, most founders would agree to ending all aid. They argued against foreign advernture or entangling alliances. After all, even though there was a strong debate, they ended up not supporting the French Revolutionaries.

 

[Acala]

Easy

The problem with determining who is actually fighting for liberty and should get aid is easy to solve - let each individual decide for themselves who, if anyone, they want to aid. Then there can be no dispute. If you want to aid Israel, go for it! If I don't, then I get to keep my money and buy pizza and beer, or a new gun for myself, or invest in the means of production right here in the USA!

See how easy that is?

We can solve the problem of getting involved militarily in other countries in the same easy way. If you want to go liberate Iraq, go for it! Grab your gun, hop on a plane, and have at it.

I know it is so much easier to force other people to finance the foreign policy of the elite, and die on distant soil, but that really is so divisive.

Peace.

 

[OptionsTrader]

Should the U.S. End Aid to Israel?

Yes and to every other country as well. The position isn't antisemitic, it is anti-theft.

If I want to send money to country XYZ, so be it. But don't fucking steal my money and give it away. No individual has that right, and thus the government does not.

 

[mmink15]

I hope we get enough Ron Paul republicans into office in November to see this debate in House and Congress

 

[Kalifornia]

The problem with determining who is actually fighting for liberty and should get aid is easy to solve - let each individual decide for themselves who, if anyone, they want to aid. Then there can be no dispute. If you want to aid Israel, go for it! If I don't, then I get to keep my money and buy pizza and beer, or a new gun for myself, or invest in the means of production right here in the USA!

See how easy that is?

We can solve the problem of getting involved militarily in other countries in the same easy way. If you want to go liberate Iraq, go for it! Grab your gun, hop on a plane, and have at it.

I know it is so much easier to force other people to finance the foreign policy of the elite, and die on distant soil, but that really is so divisive.

Peace.

Im certainly for allowing private foreign military aid (up to and including allowing private individuals to head overseas and help the locals shoot fascists or pirates or commies) to any nation or group that isnt an enemy or at least on some kind of declared shit list. These days they put you in prison for stuff like that, unfortunately.

If that were allowed, Id be all for ending any government military aid. Letting the market decide who is worth supporting works for me, so long as it is allowed, and not going to a group that is a danger to US security interests.

 

[driller80545]

The problem with determining who is actually fighting for liberty and should get aid is easy to solve - let each individual decide for themselves who, if anyone, they want to aid. Then there can be no dispute. If you want to aid Israel, go for it! If I don't, then I get to keep my money and buy pizza and beer, or a new gun for myself, or invest in the means of production right here in the USA!

See how easy that is?

We can solve the problem of getting involved militarily in other countries in the same easy way. If you want to go liberate Iraq, go for it! Grab your gun, hop on a plane, and have at it.

I know it is so much easier to force other people to finance the foreign policy of the elite, and die on distant soil, but that really is so divisive.

Peace.

This just makes too much common sense. Why, if we had a foriegn policy like this, how many politicians would we really need. Are you abdicating making all these politicians have to get a real job? Would that be called blowback?

 

[lucius]

Yes and to every other country as well. The position isn't antisemitic, it is anti-theft.

If I want to send money to country XYZ, so be it. But don't fucking steal my money and give it away. No individual has that right, and thus the government does not.

So simple and succinctly put, I wish my fellow Americans could understand that.

 

[Sir VotesALot]

Is this the same Alison Weir that writes all of those history books? Smart gal either way.

 

[Highland]

is this a real question on the RP Forums?! of course we don't need to send $$$ to Israel. Autonomy is the issue.

 

[Carehn]

Not just Israel, but all countries. Charity is a role for individuals, not governments.

this kids got my vote

 

[Give me liberty]

Yes, if america wants to save itself from destruction.

And end all aid to other countries to, why are spending so much on the other countries?

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Not just Israel, but all countries. Charity is a role for individuals, not governments.

Well put.

 

[Falseflagop]

Why shouldn't israel get aid from us, I thought they are the 51st state of the US?

 

[Patriot123]

It was highly appropriate that this debate was held two weeks before tax day, since in Israel's sixty years of existence, it has received more US tax money than any other nation on earth.

That isn't true. Saudi Arabia does at the moment; ten times as much. That article is very, very, very false in many of its statements. Another one I would like to point out is that all though many Muslim and Christian settlers were forced from their homes, so were thousands of Jewish settlers from Muslim lands. Israel tried to give housing and whatnot to the Muslims who were exiled, however the UN and Arab nations forced Israel not to do so.

Either way, yes, we should stop donating to not only Israel, but every other nation on Earth.

 

[spudea]

why isn't this presented before congress?