Should Ron Paul stop speaking at Colleges for large crowds that aren't voting?

[libertylastchance]

http://www.dailypaul.com/219809/ron-paul-rally-vs-rick-santorum-rally-in-kansas

reading through the comments gives a feeling that people don't think there is fraud, the large crowds are actually people who don't vote.

 

[bolidew]

The real problem is the education might not stick. These student may change their mindset when they enter the "mainstream" society, get real jobs and have their own families.....

 

[jbuttell]

I've heard that idea floated around many times, bit I have a difficult time buying it. People will go way out of their way to attend a rally by some politician, but they won't bother showing up to vote? bull.

Why don't these other candidates get these types of crowds? Just makes zero sense.

 

[Drex]

Some people who are for other candidates go just to check it out

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

Hold big rallies to organize delegates.

Hold smaller rallies and smaller events at places where seniors hang out for votes. Some of the older people I talk to said that Ron always mention the youth and do college rallies and the older folks feel ignored by Ron.

In my opinion,if a strategy is not working... change it!

 

[tsai3904]

Most college students are not properly registered to vote. In Kansas, you had to be a registered Republican three weeks before the caucus. If there was no organizatin in Kansas, I wouldn't be surprised if more than 50% of the students who attended the event were not registered Republican.

 

[parocks]

Should the Grassroots do REAL WORK, Spend REAL MONEY to get College Students to the Polls?

 

[parocks]

I don't really care if there are, or aren't big rallies.

But we do almost NOTHING to get those people to the polls.

It's getting pretty pointless now, though.

Pretty soon there will be winner take all primaries, and we won't even be picking up delegates there.

In order for there to be a brokered / open convention, Romney needs to be prevented from getting the delegates. Votes for Ron Paul, in the not too distant future, will be counter productive. We'll need to be voting for Santorum to Stop Romney. Ron Paul does not need a big rally to remind people to vote for Santorum.

 

[parocks]

Most college students are not properly registered to vote. In Kansas, you had to be a registered Republican three weeks before the caucus. If there was no organizatin in Kansas, I wouldn't be surprised if more than 50% of the students who attended the event were not registered Republican.

Right. From thread to thread, you seem to have a real understanding that votes are what we're after.

 

[kathy88]

Hold the rallies in time for voter registration. Then go back and do smaller events.

 

[sailingaway]

The enthusiasm at these rallies ends up in majority delegates in areas he may not take. I think the people there who can vote mostly do, but many haven't registered in time, others are too young, others are from nearby areas we aren't counting. But look at the delegate results Ron is getting in NV and MN, etc.

The problem is lack of time. There was all the time in the world to court NH and Iowa, and Ron did it the right way, smaller groups with lots of questions.... but now he has a day or so in each place and has to rally the troops, not even having all of their data.

It isn't perfect, and I would focus more on New England/Islands than the south/mid west, but that is just a thought. The campaign is the one that has to make the choices.

 

[Carson]

"Should Ron Paul stop speaking at Colleges for large crowds that aren't voting?"

Ron Paul isn't the future. They are.

Then there is the whole purpose of collage and learning thing it has going for it.

Any crowd that will listen is my motto...if I was to have a motto.

 

[69360]

No. The kids at the college rallies are usually not registered to vote in the area of the college. They vote in their hometown or home state. Second reason not to is that these college kids are the future of the country. They are the leaders of tomorrow and they need to hear what Ron has to say.

 

[tsai3904]

Hold the rallies in time for voter registration. Then go back and do smaller events.

Yes! This should have been the campaign strategy from the very beginning. It should have been obvious that we get A LOT of support from 18-29 AND Independents who probably have never registered Republican before. These demographics have to know that they must register Republican (in closed states) and when the deadline to register is. In order to address this problem the campaign should have been holding events days before the registration deadlines. Instead, the deadlines have been largely ignored by the campaign. I'm pretty sure they didn't send out emails to their lists reminding people to register days before deadlines.

I got a list of one state's supporters from the campaign a couple days before the caucuses began and over 40% of the people on the campaign's list were not registered Republican. This has been a huge problem so far.

 

[tsai3904]

No. The kids at the college rallies are usually not registered to vote in the area of the college.

Most college students are not registered to vote period, even the ones who do attend the rallies.

 

[angelatc]

No. The kids at the college rallies are usually not registered to vote in the area of the college. They vote in their hometown or home state. Second reason not to is that these college kids are the future of the country. They are the leaders of tomorrow and they need to hear what Ron has to say.

Then he can use the rest of his life to travel around talking to them. If it's not driving votes during the campaign, then obviously he should be pursue a different strategy during the campaign.

 

[r3volutionpaul91]

sorry but I don't buy the "they don't vote" bullshit, how is possible they are willing to go to these rallies but not bothering to vote? BS, I actually think they are voting or at least TRYING to vote. how is it that the other candidates only dream of getting all this support but get thousands and thousands of more votes than ron? where's the hardcore romney supporters? where's the hardcore santorum supporters? it just doesn't make sense to me, it's completely mind boggling and I refuse to believe that our supporters aren't voting AT ALL.

 

[coffeewithchess]

The campaign is to win the presidency/election, not spread a message. Sorry, but I don't think most people donated money to help spread a message through attack ads, and speeches at college campuses...

If this is simply about the message, the campaign didn't need millions for that.
He should have been holding TARGETED campaign events, "60 and older" "50 and older"...to the people that don't know/understand/misunderstand his positions.

AGAIN, ignore the target audience/voters that got McCain the nomination at your own risk, and as someone once said, "Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result is INSANITY." should be applied HEAVILY in this situation.

 

[coffeewithchess]

sorry but I don't buy the "they don't vote"

You don't have to buy it, it was already reported from a HUGE Iowa rally at one of the colleges/universities that something like 80-90% of the first two rows of students would not be able to vote for RP in the IOWA Caucus...either due to age, being out of state students, or the like.

 

[sailingaway]

I thing a big part of it is costs at this point. He is spending a lot less money. when he goes to a high school, it isn't to get the high school to vote, it is to get a cheap/free auditorium.