Should i join the military?

[cindy25]

the skills/interests you mentioned could also be used in local law enforcement, forest ranger, border patrol, EMT or firefighter, all without making a 4 or 8 year commitment.

 

[Reason]

Don't do it.

It was a mistake that I regret.

You could easily end up loosing your life, your girl, your morality, your body, etc.

It's bad news all around.

 

[amy31416]

I know I commented on this thread, but I never came right out and said "HELL NO" to the OP's inquiry.

If you live through it, you will likely be completely mentally and/or physically effed up for life, if you don't kill yourself like so many other ex/current military.

 

[oyarde]

I know I commented on this thread, but I never came right out and said "HELL NO" to the OP's inquiry.

If you live through it, you will likely be completely mentally and/or physically effed up for life, if you don't kill yourself like so many other ex/current military.

These are great risks ..... I did it when young . I wanted to see the world and did . It is not for everybody . Special ops really not for everybody . I was fortunate , no injuries that did not heal fairly well , I think I am still sound of mind ...

 

[brandon]

YouTube - 'Universal Soldier' by Buffy Sainte-Marie on QTV

 

[amy31416]

These are great risks ..... I did it when young . I wanted to see the world and did . It is not for everybody . Special ops really not for everybody . I was fortunate , no injuries that did not heal fairly well , I think I am still sound of mind ...

Well the verdict's out.

I'm specifically talking about people who serve during wartime, those who actually kill people and get shot at. I don't know if you served during a major conflict or not....either way, your opinion probably holds more weight than mine. But my opinion is still "hell no."

 

[oyarde]

Well the verdict's out.

I'm specifically talking about people who serve during wartime, those who actually kill people and get shot at. I don't know if you served during a major conflict or not....either way, your opinion probably holds more weight than mine. But my opinion is still "hell no."

Truth is , the violence may effect people differently and you really are not going to be able to predict how it may effect yourself or others .

 

[Acala]

Ron Paul

YouTube - 'Universal Soldier' by Buffy Sainte-Marie on QTV

I seem to recall that the Good Doctor specifically requested that Amy Allen perform this song at the Rally. So I think we can deduce that Ron Paul hopes that the people will help to end our aggressive foreign policy by refusing to participate.

 

[bkreigh]

The decision is up to man. Sometimes is get the feeling that a lot of folks in here think everybody in the military goes abroad and kills folks for sport. I just passed my 9 year mark and i have fired a weapon only once and that was in basic training.

Its simple. Do you research on all 5 branches. Within those 5 branches research the different rates and what they do. In my 9 years i have been going home pretty much every night and sleeping in my own bed with the exception of the recent BP spill and training course out of the area.

Now do i enjoy my job all the time? Heck no. I dont know anybody that does. But also dont lose any sleep over the missions i do. Furthermore, i have fun talking politics with folks in the office.

Do your due dilligence and make your own decision. I didnt really do much any reasearch and just joined. I am thankful i the cards lined up for me though. I think it was just dumb luck but that doesnt mean your decision has to be luck though. All i can say is RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH!!!!!!!!

 

[Acala]

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The decision is up to man.

Of course, but he asked our opinion. Saying "it's up to you" isn't giving him an opinion. It is refusing his request.

Sometimes is get the feeling that a lot of folks in here think everybody in the military goes abroad and kills folks for sport. I just passed my 9 year mark and i have fired a weapon only once and that was in basic training.!!!!!!!!

He is talking about the SEALS. I'm not an expert but I am thinking that SEALS generally end up shooting people.

 

[amy31416]

Truth is , the violence may effect people differently and you really are not going to be able to predict how it may effect yourself or others .

The mental part, sure. But paralysis from the waist down/being relieved of a few of your limbs, etc...your state of mind can help you cope, but you're still handicapped and might have to hire someone to wipe your ass for the rest of your life.

I suppose some people might like that though......

 

[oyarde]

Of course, but he asked our opinion. Saying "it's up to you" isn't giving him an opinion. It is refusing his request.



He is talking about the SEALS. I'm not an expert but I am thinking that SEALS generally end up shooting people.

Basically if you are a Marine rifleman , Army Combat Arms ( Armor , Infantry , Artillary Forward Observer etc . , any type of Special Ops ( Ranger , Special Forces , Recon Marine , SEAL ) , if you serve a few years , you will be involved somewhere , sometime actually performing your job . This is a given . Each individual is in control of that . If you are skeptical about that , make sure to enlist in a different job . There are mechanics , x ray tech's , etc. etc.

 

[oyarde]

The mental part, sure. But paralysis from the waist down/being relieved of a few of your limbs, etc...your state of mind can help you cope, but you're still handicapped and might have to hire someone to wipe your ass for the rest of your life.

I suppose some people might like that though......

You are correct , being maimed , losing multiple limbs etc being the worst . This is also a serious risk to pre assess . This is true in about any type of enemy you may have to face . Guerrila warfare , booby traps , roadside bombs , RPG's , mortars , grenades . Conventional warfare enemy , artillary , mines , grenades , mortars , RPG's , tanks etc .

 

[oyarde]

I was in during the 80's , never had a civilian throw anything at me . I should be grateful . When that happened were you in Europe or on one of the Coasts ?

The only time I had anything thrown at me , was a large rock , in the head , by an Armor Co CO at the railhead in Baumholder.

 

[Acala]

Ron Paul

Ever wonder what makes Ron Paul the man he is? A man that can calmly stand up in the middle of a firestorm of hatred for Assange and support him? A man who can speak the truth without flinching? EVER? A man who can be surrounded by idiots, scoundrels and demons for decades, watching them destroy the things he most cherishes and STILL behave as a gentleman and speak cordially to the worst of them?

Want to know where I think he gets that kind of courage?

Love.

Love for his country. Love for liberty. Love for his fellow man. Love for his family. Love for his God.

He gets his courage from love. Not from being a badass killer.

You can choose where you want to put your energy in life. And your life and your character will be shaped accordingly. My advice - learn to do something constructive. Learn to make the lives of those around you better. Fill your heart with love, not violence. You will have a happier life.

 

[oyarde]

The decision is up to man. Sometimes is get the feeling that a lot of folks in here think everybody in the military goes abroad and kills folks for sport. I just passed my 9 year mark and i have fired a weapon only once and that was in basic training.

Its simple. Do you research on all 5 branches. Within those 5 branches research the different rates and what they do. In my 9 years i have been going home pretty much every night and sleeping in my own bed with the exception of the recent BP spill and training course out of the area.

Now do i enjoy my job all the time? Heck no. I dont know anybody that does. But also dont lose any sleep over the missions i do. Furthermore, i have fun talking politics with folks in the office.

Do your due dilligence and make your own decision. I didnt really do much any reasearch and just joined. I am thankful i the cards lined up for me though. I think it was just dumb luck but that doesnt mean your decision has to be luck though. All i can say is RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH!!!!!!!!

All true , I was young , looked over all jobs and took the one I thought would be the most exciting ( dangerous ) . Not too smart on my part .

 

[oyarde]

All true , I was young , looked over all jobs and took the one I thought would be the most exciting ( dangerous ) . Not too smart on my part .

My Dad ( Korean war vet ) tried to talk me out of it . Think I listened ?

 

[oyarde]

Bad advice. Your will go to war in the national guard. I know too well

Yes .

 

[brandon]

I seem to recall that the Good Doctor specifically requested that Amy Allen perform this song at the Rally. So I think we can deduce that Ron Paul hopes that the people will help to end our aggressive foreign policy by refusing to participate.

Yep. He said that when he was younger he was a universal soldier. He marched off to war in Vietnam and never resisted. He spoke of it with great remorse, and tried to warn others not the become the universal soldier.

 

[dannno]

Yep. He said that when he was younger he was a universal soldier. He marched off to war in Vietnam and never resisted. He spoke of it with great remorse, and tried to warn others not the become the universal soldier.

Lyrics:

He's five foot two and he's six feet four
He fights with missiles and with spears
He's all of thirty-one and he's only seventeen
Been a soldier for a thousand years

He's a Catholic, a Hindu, an Atheist, a Jain
A Buddhist and a Baptist and a Jew
And he knows he shouldn't kill and he knows he always will
Kill you for me my friend and me for you

And he's fighting for Canada
He's fighting for France, he's fighting for the U.S.A.
And he's fighting for the Russians
And he's fighting for Japan
And he thinks we'll put an end to war this way

And he's fighting for Democracy, he's fighting for the Reds
He says "It's for the peace of all"
He's the one who must decide, who's to live and who's to die
And he never sees the writing on the wall

But without him
How would Hitler have condemned him at Labau?
Without him Caesar would have stood alone
He's the one who gives his body as a weapon of the war
And without him all this killing can't go on

He's the Universal Soldier and he really is to blame
His orders come from far away no more
They come from here and there and you and me
And brothers can't you see
This is not the way we put the end to war