Should Cockfighting Be Legal?

[JK/SEA]

I fully understand, however, that was then and this is now....keyword for the NA's ....DID...past tense.

 

[JK/SEA]

anybody who differentiates between different kinds of animals being ok to eat or not is tragically inconsistent.

if i can eat chicken, then i can eat whale, or dog.

or would you like to force me to not eat meat at all?

The debate is actually about animal abuse, and got sidetracked towards eating dogs versus dog or cock fighting. The animal, if it absolutley must be eaten, then a quick and humane kill wouldn't constitute abuse. An extreme exception (dog) wouldn't be condemned. Dogs are a little different though, as they are the ONLY animal that be-friended man...not the other way around, hence the extreme emotional reaction you get from dog abuse/eating...generally speaking of course. There are humans who take exception to this by not legally getting to torture dogs. I just had a roast beef sandwich. With mustard.

 

[oyarde]

Roast beef sounds good .

 

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

The proper function of government is to protect individual rights of humans.

That phrase makes less sense the more I hear or read it.

If rights are defined as that which is unalienable, meaning something that can never be taken away... what is there to protect?

If rights are defined as that which is recognized, meaning something that can only exist if there are two or more parties... which party receives protection?

 

[Danke]

I fully understand, however, that was then and this is now....keyword for the NA's ....DID...past tense.

Wonder if this is like "to catch a predator" site.

http://puppybeef.com/

 

[oyarde]

Wonder if this is like "to catch a predator" site.

http://puppybeef.com/

In China it is caled " fragrant meat ".

 

[Danke]

In China it is caled " fragrant meat ".

Had Kagogi in Korea.

 

[mczerone]

The debate is actually about animal abuse, and got sidetracked towards eating dogs versus dog or cock fighting. The animal, if it absolutley must be eaten, then a quick and humane kill wouldn't constitute abuse. An extreme exception (dog) wouldn't be condemned. Dogs are a little different though, as they are the ONLY animal that be-friended man...not the other way around, hence the extreme emotional reaction you get from dog abuse/eating...generally speaking of course. There are humans who take exception to this by not legally getting to torture dogs. I just had a roast beef sandwich. With mustard.

By that logic wouldn't dog be the only animal that would be okay to eat? I mean, they came to us. We had to capture and selectively breed other domesticated animals - we took them out of their natural path to serve our own ends, which is closer to abuse than is killing this mutt that keeps stealing our food scraps (that were going to be used in stew and feed my family for a week).

I do agree that there are differences between how one should treat assorted life forms, but I think your argument is lacking.

 

[oyarde]

Had Kagogi in Korea.

I have seen it , did not try it ...

 

[Danke]

I have seen it , did not try it ...

Had just about anything you can imagine in Asia. Whale, horse...except no monkey brains nor polar bears...yet.

 

[JK/SEA]

From the PETA files...

http://www.peta.org/b/thepetafiles/archive/tags/kitty+beef/default.aspx

 

[JK/SEA]

By that logic wouldn't dog be the only animal that would be okay to eat? I mean, they came to us. We had to capture and selectively breed other domesticated animals - we took them out of their natural path to serve our own ends, which is closer to abuse than is killing this mutt that keeps stealing our food scraps (that were going to be used in stew and feed my family for a week).

I do agree that there are differences between how one should treat assorted life forms, but I think your argument is lacking.

Maybe. Just my opinion. You have yours. We're even.

 

[oyarde]

Had just about anything you can imagine in Asia. Whale, horse...except no monkey brains nor polar bears...yet.

Bear burgers on the grill , not bad .

 

[YumYum]

"Should Cockfighting Be Legal?"

No, male genitalia should be required to get along.

 

[oyarde]

1. still?
2. they are i believe..extinct now?. They also had human sacrifice.
3. Yea, they couldn't find McDonalds, and this was what...200 years ago?

Best I can tell , every early society in the Med and Middle East performed human sacrafice as well.

 

[oyarde]

Had just about anything you can imagine in Asia. Whale, horse...except no monkey brains nor polar bears...yet.

Whale is best on the grill . Never eat any whale liver , too toxic.

 

[oyarde]

Bear burgers on the grill , not bad .

Has to be well done though , because of the Trych .

 

[oyarde]

1. still?
2. they are i believe..extinct now?. They also had human sacrifice.
3. Yea, they couldn't find McDonalds, and this was what...200 years ago?

The Comanche language is an aztecan language .

 

[low preference guy]

That phrase makes less sense the more I hear or read it.

If rights are defined as that which is unalienable, meaning something that can never be taken away... what is there to protect?

If rights are defined as that which is recognized, meaning something that can only exist if there are two or more parties... which party receives protection?

apparently you don't have a definition of rights that is non-contradictory.

i say the concept of rights arises in the context of some sort of ethics. if you recognize from an ethical point of view for example that restricting somebody's freedom of speech is immoral, you can say that people have a right to free speech.

in summary, saying that you have a right to free speech just means that nobody can restrict your freedom of speech without violating the mentioned ethical code.

protecting rights means punishing those who violates rights.

i don't think this definition is contradictory like other conceptions of rights.

that freedom of speech is inalienable means that every human has a right to freedom of speech, i.e., it is immoral to restrict the freedom of speech of any human.

there are exceptions for criminals. it is not immoral to restrict a criminals freedom of association. so rights are not inalienable in that sense.

 

[oyarde]

1. still?
2. they are i believe..extinct now?. They also had human sacrifice.
3. Yea, they couldn't find McDonalds, and this was what...200 years ago?

The interesting thing about the Comanche language being an Aztecan language is that the Comanches originated from further North , from the Shoshone .