Shots fired, Bundy arrested

Badger Paul said:
"What justice do you bring your constituents by discounting the causation of this entire incident?"

You mean the half of the county that works for the BLM or other federal agencies or how about the employees at wildlife refuge who couldn't get to their jobs because these yahoos took over the main building? What about the Hammonds who didn't want them there in the first place. Take your pick.

These guys wanted a confrontation with the Feds, they practically begged for it, and they got their wish. One dead and the rest in jail. Some revolution.

When the next stand-off over Federal lands takes place, may please our militia symps take their activities to another website so RPF doesn't get smeared as a militia hub site. Luckily for Rand he's so low in the polls no one bothered to notice. Believe me it would have been different otherwise This is a site for political activism, not bunker plotting.
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So. What.

Most of Boston didn't approve the Boston Tea Party. How many "Muricans actually fought in the Revolution? Most didn't want it- now we praise them. And, if it was Trump supporting this, mundanes would clapping and saying Yee Haw!

It should be obvious to anyone awake that the Hammonds went back to jail to protect their families. No one in their right mind would desire to be jailed TWICE for the same offense. Rather unconstitutional, wouldn't you agree?

And if this can happen to the Hammonds, whose next? How long before anyone who commits even a minor offense can be put in jail 2-3-4-100 times if the alphabets decide it?

Everyone screams for change but when a few do something, then 99% complain and disparage.

This has never been more appropriate:

 
so i guess we're just going to wait and watch as these patriots get killed, shake our heads and tell ourselves this was an ill advised op, and tune in to American Idol tonight with the pop corn and drinks...move along, nothing to see here...
 
JK/SEA said:
so i guess we're just going to wait and watch as these patriots get killed, shake our heads and tell ourselves this was an ill advised op, and tune in to American Idol tonight with the pop corn and drinks...move along, nothing to see here...
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Only now we have to pick apart the "official" story of what happens. There is not going to be the "other side" for us to hear...
 
JK/SEA said:
so i guess we're just going to wait and watch as these patriots get killed, shake our heads and tell ourselves this was an ill advised op, and tune in to American Idol tonight with the pop corn and drinks...move along, nothing to see here...
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What do you suggest?
 
http://www.infowars.com/eyewitness-oregon-militiaman-murdered-by-cops-he-had-his-hands-in-the-air/

“I want the world to know how my father was murdered today. His hands were in the air and he was shot in the face by the American authorities. Ammon Bundy reported there are 6 witnesses to this evil.”
Posted by Thara Tenney on Tuesday, January 26, 2016

Her testimony was echoed by another eyewitness, Victoria Sharp, who was in the car with Finicum when the group were pulled over by cops and federal agents. Sharp claims that Finicum put his hands out of the car window and asked the police to allow the women to leave the car.

“They shot at him, but they missed him,” said Sharp, adding that the group then attempted to drive away in the car but were shot at again by police.

“When we crashed and stopped for a second, he got out of the car, he had his hands in the air, he’s like ‘just shoot me then’….and they did, they shot him dead,” said Sharp.

“He was just walking, with his hands in the air, I swear to God, and they shot him dead and after he was down on the ground, shot him three more times,” said Sharp, adding that the vehicle was again “bombarded with bullets” as well as tear gas rounds.

Sharp says that the group tried to “find something white” so they could display it as a sign of surrender. She challenges news reports that only six shots were fired, asserting, “they shot at least 120 shots altogether.”

Sharp also claims that none of the individuals in the car pulled out a gun at any point and that the incident was an “ambush” with “FBI snipers in the trees” surrounding the vehicle.
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The Feds accommodate Ammon Bundy and give him his John-Brown-at-Harper's-Ferry moment, and we get to make a choice.
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-feds-accommodate-ammon-bundy-and.html
 
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JK/SEA said:
so i guess we're just going to wait and watch as these patriots get killed, shake our heads and tell ourselves this was an ill advised op, and tune in to American Idol tonight with the pop corn and drinks...move along, nothing to see here...
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I don't understand this. If the people who thought this op was a good idea can't be bothered to go and do anything, then why do you think the people who thought it was a bad idea should do more than those? I mean, you thought the op was a good idea, and I don't see you picking up a rifle and rolling into battle, but you want the people who thought it was a bad idea to go and die in your place?

I don't understand this position of yours at all.
 
The Weather Underground thought they were doing the right thing too.

"It should be obvious to anyone awake that the Hammonds went back to jail to protect their families. No one in their right mind would desire to be jailed TWICE for the same offense. Rather unconstitutional, wouldn't you agree?"

I agree completely and the prosecutor needs to be investigated but taking control of a Federal building by people who have no connection to the family or anyone else in the area and just looking for trouble and disrupting innocent people's lives in the process isn't going to help the situation and just makes things worse.

I'm not gloating over anyone's death. I'm just happy this situation is finally starting coming to a close and this Johnny Reb crap is being exposed for the idiocy that it is and Bundys and others are hardly revolutionaries. Bottom line is you either believe in the process or you don't and if you don't then I would ask you take yourselves away from RPF and retreat to your compounds because you have no business being here.
 
pcosmar said:
It can't be suggested.

but a soft spoken man, Rancher, family man,, and supporter of the Constitution was just murdered for his support of that.

to send a message.

Do you get it?
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Certainly. But, I'm not sitting behind a key board and admonishing everyone else for doing nothing while...doing nothing. I believed this op was ill planned from the beginning. What idiot decides to remove the entire leadership from the refuge and put them in a convoy with a known destination?
 
Badger Paul said:
The Weather Underground thought they were doing the right thing too.

"It should be obvious to anyone awake that the Hammonds went back to jail to protect their families. No one in their right mind would desire to be jailed TWICE for the same offense. Rather unconstitutional, wouldn't you agree?"

I agree completely and the prosecutor needs to be investigated but taking control of a Federal building by people who have no connection to the family or anyone else in the area and just looking for trouble and disrupting innocent people's lives in the process isn't going to help the situation and just makes things worse.

I'm not gloating over anyone's death. I'm just happy this situation is finally starting coming to a close and this Johnny Reb crap is being exposed for the idiocy that it is and Bundys and others are hardly revolutionaries. Bottom line is you either believe in the process or you don't and if you don't then I would ask you take yourselves away from RPF and retreat to your compounds because you have no business being here.
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I DON'T believe in the process and you're a fool if you do. And I'll stay right here despite your belief that you are the director of all things RPF's.
 
Badger Paul said:
. Bottom line is you either believe in the process or you don't and if you don't then I would ask you take yourselves away from RPF and retreat to your compounds because you have no business being here.
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Just what process is that?

The Law of the Land. The Constitution provides for such process,, when necessary..
It is the bottom line.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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bottom line is who has the say.. the people.
 
phill4paul said:
Certainly. But, I'm not sitting behind a key board and admonishing everyone else for doing nothing while...doing nothing. I believed this op was ill planned from the beginning. What idiot decides to remove the entire leadership from the refuge and put them in a convoy with a known destination?
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The natives had a bad habit of trusting the treaty makers as well.
 
Badger Paul said:
The Weather Underground thought they were doing the right thing too.

"It should be obvious to anyone awake that the Hammonds went back to jail to protect their families. No one in their right mind would desire to be jailed TWICE for the same offense. Rather unconstitutional, wouldn't you agree?"

I agree completely and the prosecutor needs to be investigated but taking control of a Federal building by people who have no connection to the family or anyone else in the area and just looking for trouble and disrupting innocent people's lives in the process isn't going to help the situation and just makes things worse.

I'm not gloating over anyone's death. I'm just happy this situation is finally starting coming to a close and this Johnny Reb crap is being exposed for the idiocy that it is and Bundys and others are hardly revolutionaries. Bottom line is you either believe in the process or you don't and if you don't then I would ask you take yourselves away from RPF and retreat to your compounds because you have no business being here.
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Have you been in a coma for the last 15 years? "The process" has been hopelessly corrupted to the point where there is no justice left in the "justice" system. You can be sure that the corrupt monsters with their claws into the system down to the bone will not be routed peacefully. They are thugs and monsters, and force is the only language they speak.

Eventually, to route out the corruption, it will come down to force. Even if we won every election, and every Sheriff's office, and every DA in the country, these people will not leave peacefully. Once they have tasted power they will not let go without a fight. This is simply the nature of the beast.

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Badger Paul said:
The Weather Underground thought they were doing the right thing too.

"It should be obvious to anyone awake that the Hammonds went back to jail to protect their families. No one in their right mind would desire to be jailed TWICE for the same offense. Rather unconstitutional, wouldn't you agree?"

I agree completely and the prosecutor needs to be investigated but taking control of a Federal building by people who have no connection to the family or anyone else in the area and just looking for trouble and disrupting innocent people's lives in the process isn't going to help the situation and just makes things worse.

I'm not gloating over anyone's death. I'm just happy this situation is finally starting coming to a close and this Johnny Reb crap is being exposed for the idiocy that it is and Bundys and others are hardly revolutionaries. Bottom line is you either believe in the process or you don't and if you don't then I would ask you take yourselves away from RPF and retreat to your compounds because you have no business being here.
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This is not your decision to make.
 
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