Shortages will start happening NOW! Please read and prepare

[Kraig]

hey, smokers! get organic cigs! the companies are using genetically modified tobacco in them.
american spirit makes them.
as for shortages, most will not feel sorry for a smoker that ran out, so better stop now. i am a health nut, tree hugger, animal lover, as you know, but am a champion smoker. if you stop, you are in good company, mine. i will not want to be freaking out over cigs if other things are going on.

We should make our own cigs with a $ logo.

 

[acptulsa]

We should make our own cigs with a $ logo.

Anyone have a formula for blue steel suitable for rail?

 

[Charles Wilson]

We are in the preplanning stages of setting up a market. We have a treed corner lot in an area surrounded by new subdivisions (no high foreclosures, hopefully) and sidewalks. Many of the homes have large backyards perfect for growing a few fruis and veggies.

As you know, food markets and victory gardens are not new. They were plentiful during the 30s and 40s. Having said that, this is a good time to purchase gardening tools that do not require gasoline. Puchasing seeds may become a problem in the future but they are plentiful today.

Also, now is a good time to learn about growing and preserving your own stuff whether you will actually need that knowledge or not. I did just that several years ago -- it is fun; the food taste good too!

 

[Hawk45]

OK first off ALL commercial seeds are controlled by about 6-8 companies. They ALL produce 'terminator' seeds as that is how they make their money by forcing folks to buy their products year after year. The only ones they do not control is the small companies selling 'heirloom' seeds which allow you to use the seeds from their veggies to produce the next years crop.

As for folks who smoke I suggest going to a pipe. You can grow your own tobacco and can use it without paper of filters. The trick is using a GOOD pipe and not some $9.95 Dr. Graybowl special. BTW tobacco growing is HARD!

As for economical transportation of goods look at what we are doing already with barges on the rivers. You will be surprised just how much more they are moving than trucks and trains COMBINED.

It will NOT be the Union truckers that will strike as the companies that hire them just pass the fuel cost along to US. It will be the independants that are getting hit the worst NOW by both fuel and the current government.

Now you have your garden that you are feeding YOUR family with. What are you gonna do to protect it when folks start 'borrowing' YOUR food from you? For that matter what are you gonna do for toilet paper when the trucks quit delivering?

There is WAY more to surviving than just building a bomb shelter and buying a gun. Folks may want to google up some survival sites that have been at it for YEARS. They are not so silly now are they?

 

[amy31416]

As for economical transportation of goods look at what we are doing already with barges on the rivers. You will be surprised just how much more they are moving than trucks and trains COMBINED.

Now you have your garden that you are feeding YOUR family with. What are you gonna do to protect it when folks start 'borrowing' YOUR food from you? For that matter what are you gonna do for toilet paper when the trucks quit delivering?

There is WAY more to surviving than just building a bomb shelter and buying a gun. Folks may want to google up some survival sites that have been at it for YEARS. They are not so silly now are they?

Damn. You sound torqued off. No reason, you are amongst friends here and there's nothing wrong with learning new things.

Anyways, so, get heirloom seeds--check. Stock up on toilet paper--check. Stock up on food--check.

Have any good websites you can share?

 

[thuja]

i'm glad i got tons of toilet paper before all you guys bought it up.
i smoked a pipe years ago just to be funny, but that's a very good idea, in case i didn't manage quitting smoking on time.

 

[Kraig]

I'm just gonna take shower every time I have to shit.

 

[Highland]

I'd prepare with food/water/silver/gold but I don't have any money. I basically earn enough to make it to the next week. I'm a bit nervous about the future to be honest.

God is with you....and we are praying for you. Watch the google video "Who Moved My Cheese?" it will change your way of solving this problem.

 

[maggiebott]

lol

I'm just gonna take shower every time I have to shit.

I can't stop laughing!

Seriously though, is burpee seeds part of the monsanto breed? In which case I'll have to start my wee plants from scratch again.

 

[Hawk45]

Damn. You sound torqued off. No reason, you are amongst friends here and there's nothing wrong with learning new things.

Anyways, so, get heirloom seeds--check. Stock up on toilet paper--check. Stock up on food--check.

Have any good websites you can share?

No, not torqued. Just constantly amazed how little useful things we Americans know. We know more about Brittany's belly button than what we put in our mouths everyday.

As to survival sites here is a couple to start with.

http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/
http://libertyquestandfreedomboard.yuku.com/

I will tell you up front that the second one is mine and a few friends of mine. It is open to the world for anyone wanting to know about survival. Some of us have been 'survivalist' for alot of years. Even before it was considered evil by some that liken it to militias. It is about surviving about anything. Know this though I am NOT here recruiting for the board. Just trying to share info.

Frugals has been around for YEARS and is one of the better known ones. Good site that I have nothing but good things to say about it.

There is a site somewhere that lists the things that disappear first in time of trouble that I cannot find right now, but if I can find it I will post it. Some of the things will open your eyes as to what to stock up on first. It was compiled by interviewing folks in the former Yugoslavia and shows what disappeared first when they disbanded.

 

[amy31416]

No, not torqued. Just constantly amazed how little useful things we Americans know. We know more about Brittany's belly button than what we put in our mouths everyday.

I think you're right for the most part, but I don't think that applies to the majority of us around here. Personally, I've had my nose buried in science books or been a hermit in a lab for the last god knows how long.

Thank you for the info and links, by the way. I'll check 'em out.

 

[amy31416]

I can't stop laughing!

Seriously though, is burpee seeds part of the monsanto breed? In which case I'll have to start my wee plants from scratch again.

I'm curious about that as well. Anyone have a list so I can check the seeds I already have?

 

[Corydoras]

I'm curious about that as well. Anyone have a list so I can check the seeds I already have?

Big seed catalogs buy their seeds from numerous suppliers, just the way any retail shop buys from various wholesalers.

The best way to avoid Monsatan is to buy heirloom varieties. Just do a search for "heirloom seeds" and you'll come up with companies like these:

http://www.seedsavers.org
http://www.southernexposure.com
http://www.oldhousegardens.com (flower bulbs)
http://www.heirloomseeds.com
http://www.rareseeds.com
http://www.seedsofchange.com

 

[Charles Wilson]

Big seed catalogs buy their seeds from numerous suppliers, just the way any retail shop buys from various wholesalers.

The best way to avoid Monsatan is to buy heirloom varieties. Just do a search for "heirloom seeds" and you'll come up with companies like these:

http://www.seedsavers.org
http://www.southernexposure.com
http://www.oldhousegardens.com (flower bulbs)
http://www.heirloomseeds.com
http://www.rareseeds.com
http://www.seedsofchange.com

For those interested in gardening tools I suggest you check out Lehman's from Ohio. Also, for those of you interested in preserving your own food check out "Ball Blue Book -- Guide to Home Canning, Freezing and Dehydration" and "Canning Foods - The University of Tennessee". You can poison yourself if you do not know what you are doing.

 

[amy31416]

Thanks for both sources Charles and Corydoras.

 

[moostraks]

For those interested in gardening tools I suggest you check out Lehman's from Ohio. Also, for those of you interested in preserving your own food check out "Ball Blue Book -- Guide to Home Canning, Freezing and Dehydration" and "Canning Foods - The University of Tennessee". You can poison yourself if you do not know what you are doing.

I LOVE Lehman's...They are a great company to deal with. Super fast service. We are hoping to be up in their area soon and get to see their newly expanded sales space. They are an awesome resource for all things non-electric and some items which are electric. A+++++++

 

[libertybrewcity]

what ever happened to those shortages? hmm..

 

[tmosley]

what ever happened to those shortages? hmm..

Prices went up, so shortages went away. Wait until price controls are brought back.

 

[hillbilly123069]

Check my links in economics. Its related.

 

[DamianTV]

I remember having seen another report about a year ago that said the BALTIC DRY INDEX had dropped by something insane like 95% or 98%. For those that dont know, the Baltic Dry Index reflects the ammt of goods we are shipping into this country. Does anyone have a link to that particular story? A link to the current Baltic Dry Index would probably also be helpful.