Sheriff Joe Arpaio: I Spoke with Andrew Breitbart Shortly Before he Died

[A Son of Liberty]

You sniffed us out, azxd. Congratulations. Go to the head of the junior detective class.

 

[pcosmar]

Yeah I'm going to bed. It's been fun, though.

Wow,,
it's 10;30 am here. Just got the house warmed up and am starting my day.

 

[pcosmar]

Is it more important to bash LE, or seek the truth ?

It is not "bashing LE".
It is addressing abuses by LE, and discussing the PROPER role and limits of LE.

All of which have been grossly exceeded.

 

[Acala]

And the problem with getting to the truth has been diverted.

Isn't the truth what is important ?
Is it more important to bash LE, or seek the truth ?

The truth is that your liberty means nothing to Arpaio. He would squash you like a bug to promote his own self-interest. And if the "truth" he is supposedly seeking would do ANYTHING to liberate this country and reign in the power of thugs like him, he wouldn't be pursuing it.

 

[AuH20]

VERY scary, indeed.

Complete societal meltdown.
Utter chaos - the likes of which we've probably never seen.

An Obama dream scenario.


err...






The fervent anti-cop sentiment on the board is interesting, and even cute - in a certain way.

The response to the Arpaio findings by some in here (bash HIM, and turn a blind eye to Barry's illegal shenanigans) are in line with the overwhelming media response to the Arpaio findings.

Good company.

Look at the daily threads on this forum. It's 100% negativity against all law enforcement as if they're some souless borg. It's ridiculous. That's not say that the law enforcement profession hasn't taken a precarious slide towards tyranny, but not all cops are the enemy. It seems that in some people's heads they can do no wrong and there is no legitimate worldy authority. Of course, when this joke of a civilization breaks down, I will be the first to defend myself and stick the wild dogs into the ground along with their 'inalienable rights.' Sorry, no appeal.

No Habeus Corpus for Johnny? Weep, weep

 

[azxd]

It is not "bashing LE".
It is addressing abuses by LE, and discussing the PROPER role and limits of LE.

All of which have been grossly exceeded.

I will not argue that abuse happens, because I know it does ... But look at this thread !!!
People don't like Arpaio for what reason ?
Why the attack on the messenger ?

I suspect bias that overrules the attainment of truth, and if my suspicion is correct, it is very wrong to condemn another who for whatever reason, suggests that the truth should be obtained.

Sorry to be judgemental, but this is of almost incomprehensible inportance, and should not be swept under a rug because of prejudicial tendencies toward LE and the system they work within ... A system we helped create.

Like I have said before, perhaps here, or in another thread ... Don't like the law, work to change it.
Translation = Don't like the system, work to change it.

That's why we gather here ... Right ?
Working to change the system, will also change laws ... YES ?

 

[azxd]

Look at the daily threads on this forum. It's 100% negativity against all law enforcement as if they're some souless borg. It's ridiculous. That's not say that the law enforcement profession hasn't taken a precarious slide towards tyranny, but not all cops are the enemy. It seems that in some people's heads they can do no wrong and there is no legitimate worldy authority. Of course, when this joke of a civilization breaks down, I will be the first to defend myself and stick the wild dogs into the ground along with their 'inalienable rights.' Sorry, no appeal.

No Habeus Corpus for Johnny? Weep, weep

I envision those being introduced to the concept the Oath Keepers began, might come here, read a few of these threads, and bail back to anyone but Paul.

I've read that Paul's supporters are his worst enemy, and at times I must agree with that attitude.

Nothing against anyone personally, but each of us can make up our own minds about what is available to read on this forum.

 

[pcosmar]

I will not argue that abuse happens, because I know it does ... But look at this thread !!!
People don't like Arpaio for what reason ?
Why the attack on the messenger ?

Aside from promoting Ron's message of liberty and supporting his run for President,, this forum is about discussions of all things Liberty related.
The Police State is the most direct and immediate threat to Liberty.

Attacking the Messager? No. Exposing him for the Anti-Liberty positions he has displayed and doubting his reasons for this present "announcement". YES

I have no love for Obama,, but don't see this as any silver bullet either. Even if it was proved beyond a shadow of doubt and impeachment proceedings started to impeach him, it would have little effect on the police state or world events.

And Joe would be off killing chickens for the cameras.

 

[AuH20]

I envision those being introduced to the concept the Oath Keepers began, might come here, read a few of these threads, and bail back to anyone but Paul.

I've read that Paul's supporters are his worst enemy, and at times I must agree with that attitude.Nothing against anyone personally, but each of us can make up our own minds about what is available to read on this forum.

They're not bad people but delusional, in clamoring for this seemingly unquenchable, abstract liberty which has never existed in any civilization or among any group of savages for that matter. Sometimes I think they feel confined by the limitations of their own human form because that's the disgust that is conveyed. Limits. There can never be any limits!! ROFL It must be a very hollow existence if you ask me.

 

[azxd]

They're not bad people but delusional, in clamoring for this seemingly unquenchable, abstract liberty which has never existed in any civilization or among any group of savages for that matter. Sometimes I think they feel confined by the limitations of their own human form because that's the disgust that is conveyed. Limits. There can never be any limits!! ROFL It must be a very hollow existence if you ask me.

An interesting perspective to say the least.

We should all strive to do good, even if we fail to succeed ... That is my personal belief.

 

[noneedtoaggress]

An interesting perspective to say the least.

Actually it's more like nonsense.

Liberty, as a philosophy, puts a limit on the freedom of the individual. It limits the individual to acting within a proper sphere of influence in which they can't interfere with the liberty of another individual. This assertion that libertarians want "freedom from the confines of their bodies and no limits" is absurd.

We want to limit acts of aggression.

I guess that makes Ron Paul "delusional" too.

But what do I know, I'm just a delusional bong smokin' cop hater who supports Obama the anarchist, or whatever.

 

[jmdrake]

Look at the daily threads on this forum. It's 100% negativity against all law enforcement as if they're some souless borg.

Somehow I doubt if Sheriff Mack had made this announcement there would be any criticism of him. Why? Because he is 100% honorable. The same cannot be said for Ariapo. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

 

[noneedtoaggress]

Look at the daily threads on this forum. It's 100% negativity against all law enforcement as if they're some souless borg. It's ridiculous.

Law never made men a whit more just; and, by means of their respect for it, even the well-disposed are daily made the agents of injustice. A common and natural result of an undue respect for law is, that you may see a file of soldiers, colonel, captain, corporal, privates, powder-monkeys,(5) and all, marching in admirable order over hill and dale to the wars, against their wills, ay, against their common sense and consciences, which makes it very steep marching indeed, and produces a palpitation of the heart. They have no doubt that it is a damnable business in which they are concerned; they are all peaceably inclined. Now, what are they? Men at all? or small movable forts and magazines, at the service of some unscrupulous man in power? Visit the Navy Yard, and behold a marine, such a man as an American government can make, or such as it can make a man with its black arts — a mere shadow and reminiscence of humanity, a man laid out alive and standing, and already, as one may say, buried under arms with funeral accompaniments, though it may be

"Not a drum was heard, not a funeral note,
As his corse to the rampart we hurried;
Not a soldier discharged his farewell shot
O'er the grave where our hero we buried."(6)

[5] The mass of men serve the state thus, not as men mainly, but as machines, with their bodies. They are the standing army, and the militia, jailers, constables, posse comitatus,(7) etc. In most cases there is no free exercise whatever of the judgment or of the moral sense; but they put themselves on a level with wood and earth and stones; and wooden men can perhaps be manufactured that will serve the purpose as well. Such command no more respect than men of straw or a lump of dirt. They have the same sort of worth only as horses and dogs. Yet such as these even are commonly esteemed good citizens. Others, as most legislators, politicians, lawyers, ministers, and office-holders, serve the state chiefly with their heads; and, as they rarely make any moral distinctions, they are as likely to serve the devil, without intending it, as God. A very few, as heroes, patriots, martyrs, reformers in the great sense, and men, serve the state with their consciences also, and so necessarily resist it for the most part; and they are commonly treated as enemies by it. [Remind you of anyone?] A wise man will only be useful as a man, and will not submit to be "clay," and "stop a hole to keep the wind away,"(8) but leave that office to his dust at least: —

"I am too high-born to be propertied,
To be a secondary at control,
Or useful serving-man and instrument
To any sovereign state throughout the world."(9)

http://thoreau.eserver.org/civil1.html

That's not say that the law enforcement profession hasn't taken a precarious slide towards tyranny, but not all cops are the enemy. It seems that in some people's heads they can do no wrong and there is no legitimate worldy authority.

It's really not that long:



http://mises.org/page/1432

Of course, when this joke of a civilization breaks down, I will be the first to defend myself and stick the wild dogs into the ground along with their 'inalienable rights.' Sorry, no appeal.

Kind of ironic considering you were just (incorrectly) commenting about how us "delusional" RP supporters want to exercise absolute unrestricted freedom.

Perhaps you should take into consideration that this monopoly system of the provision of security you're defending is part and parcel to the break down of "this joke of a civilization".

 

[noneedtoaggress]

Well stated ... But some seem to prefer hate, and will allow it to justify the dismissal of truth.

I know right? Damn delusional bong smokers need to wake up from supporting anarchist Obama.

 

[Don Lapre]

Aside from promoting Ron's message of liberty and supporting his run for President,, this forum is about discussions of all things Liberty related.
The Police State is the most direct and immediate threat to Liberty.

Attacking the Messager? No. Exposing him for the Anti-Liberty positions he has displayed and doubting his reasons for this present "announcement". YES

I have no love for Obama,, but don't see this as any silver bullet either. Even if it was proved beyond a shadow of doubt and impeachment proceedings started to impeach him, it would have little effect on the police state or world events.

And Joe would be off killing chickens for the cameras.

There won't be any impeachment proceedings if he's not legally holding the office.
He'll be ARRESTED.

Your view is actually quite a belly laugh.
Arresting Barry, according to you, isn't worthwhile because it won't affect the police state or world events.

Arresting the man who broke into your home and stole your TV isn't worthwhile either.
Won't affect the police state or world events.

And can you just imagine the arrogance of the cop that arrests the dude who walked away with your TV?
Fugg that pig coppper!

Let it ride.
You don't need your TV.



If you can't see the danger in having a man with a VERY spotty past commit gross fraud against the people of the country by ILLEGALLY holding the office of president, you are quite simply beyond hope.

I've not seen any bigger threat in my lifetime.

Just amazing the indifference people have toward it.


Slam the man with the badge and go, "Meh..." to Barry.

Wowz.

Brain damage.

 

[pcosmar]

Brain damage.

Your post is laughable, if it wasn't so sad.

OK,, Barry is arrested, Then what???
Joe Biden becomes President. (where is that barf smiley?)

How long will it take the Israel firster to launch the attack that gets us neck deep in WWIII?
Obama seems to be at least delaying it.

Then there is the Economy,, and since Biden is a complete moron he will likely tank that too.

And none of this has to do with the unlikely possibility that my home would be robbed.
In fact, the last time stuff was stolen from my home it was by Cops.

Barry is no worse than McCain would have been,, I suspect things would be MUCH worse had he been elected.

But it's a free country allegedly,, you still have a right to your delusions.

 

[Don Lapre]

Biden?

lol

Why would he take over the presidency?

If Barry is illegitimate, Biden is, also, isn't he?

 

[pcosmar]

Biden?

lol

Why would he take over the presidency?

If Barry is illegitimate, Biden is, also, isn't he?

Until the next election.
You really haven't thought this through have you?




Obvious question is obvious

Who did you think would replace him?

 

[Don Lapre]

You really haven't thought this through have you?

I haven't?

LMAO!

Dude, you're the one who just said that Biden would take over if Barry is arrested.

No, that wouldn't happen.

 

[pcosmar]

I haven't?

LMAO!

Dude, you're the one who just said that Biden would take over if Barry is arrested.


No, that wouldn't happen.

Who would??? or who do you think would?


Yes he would,, according to US Law