Senate votes to block Trump's emergency declaration

Superfluous Man said:
You specifically claimed that Obama issued national emergency declarations that were precedent for what Trump did, and I asked you to find one, and you have so far not been able to.

Have you found one yet?

Here's a list of all of them to make it easy for you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_emergencies_in_the_United_States
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All of them are Obama's whimsical emergencies , none of them are
more worthy than Trump's.

National Emergency act should be repealed, but your Open Border dreams are still a hilarious farce.
 
Stratovarious said:
All of them are Obama's whimsical emergencies , none of them are
more worthy than Trump's.

National Emergency act should be repealed, but your Open Border dreams are still a hilarious farce.
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If you really do know that for a fact, and you're not just making things up, you should be able to point out in specific how any one of them was similar to Trump's. Can you?

I didn't say anything about whimsical. But did any of them spend money in defiance of how Congress appropriated it by law, which is the whole point of Trump's national emergency order and the main constitutional basis for condemning it (as you'll notice constitutional conservatives have unanimously done, much to the chagrin of most neocon globalists)? If yes, then which one/s? This is the specific way that Trump's order violated the Constitution.
 
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Stratovarious said:
Obama's 'emergencies' were without cost.......lmao , nice try.

:frog:
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Do you see the point? You've participated in about two dozen threads where your nose was rubbed in it. Your nose was rubbed in it on this very page of this very thread, for the love of God. Can you even answer the question, what are people like Rand Paul saying is unconstitutional about what Trump did? Or are you just pretending not to get it, so you can plaster the forum with kekfrog emojis like a spamfronter?
 
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acptulsa said:
Where's the $#@!ing money?
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Stratovarious said:
Obama's 'emergencies' were without cost.......lmao , nice try.

:frog:
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acptulsa said:
Do you see the point? You've participated in about two dozen threads where your nose was rubbed in it. Your nose was rubbed in it on this very page of this very thread, for the love of God. Can you even answer the question, what are people like Rand Paul saying is unconstitutional about what Trump did? Or are you just pretending not to get it, so you can plaster the forum with kekfrog emojis like a spamfronter?
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LMAO

Talking our of your ash , as usual.

:clap: :clap: :clap:
 
Stratovarious said:
LMAO

Talking our of your ash , as usual.

:clap: :clap: :clap:
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All you have to do is point to the evidence that supports your claims, if you actually know of any.

If you don't, then why not just admit that you don't, and stop asserting something as factual when you don't really know?

You've been asked many times, and your responses are always like this. Likewise with everybody else who's made that claim. None have been able to come up with a single example of the precedent that they claim to know exists.
 
Stratovarious said:
Obama's 'emergencies' were without cost.......lmao , nice try.

:frog:
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Like these? Which ones involved taking money otherwise authorized for something else by congress?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-31-national-emergencies-effect-years/story?id=60294693

President Barack Obama

April 12, 2010: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia was in respect to threats posed by Somali pirates.

February 25, 2011: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya froze the assets of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.

July 25, 2011: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Transnational Criminals was in response to the rise in crime by specific organizations: Los Zetas (Mexico), The Brothers’ Circle (former Soviet Union countries), the Yakuza (Japan), and the Camorra (Italy).

May 16, 2012: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen addressed political unrest within the Yemen government.

March 16, 2014: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine was in response to the Russian invasion of Crimea.

April 3, 2014: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan was in response to the ongoing civil war.

May 12, 2014: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic was in response to violence towards humanitarian aid workers.

March 8, 2015: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela was in response to human rights violations.

April 1, 2015: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities was in response to Chinese cyber attacks on the U.S.

Nov 23, 2015: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi was declared after a failed coup.
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Superfluous Man said:
All you have to do is point to the evidence that supports your claims, if you actually know of any.

If you don't, then why not just admit that you don't, and stop asserting something as factual when you don't really know?

You've been asked many times, and your responses are always like this. Likewise with everybody else who's made that claim. None have been able to come up with a single example of the precedent that they claim to know exists.
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Zippyjuan said:
Like these? Which ones involved taking money otherwise authorized for something else by congress?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-31-national-emergencies-effect-years/story?id=60294693
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lol


I already did, neither of you can show how Obama's 'emergencies' were NO COST/\\\\



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