Sen. Ted Cruz: 'Torture is Wrong. Unambiguously. Period. The End.'

[TaftFan]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...Torture-is-Wrong-Unambiguously-Period-The-End

Glad to hear him say that. It lends a load of credibility to our side.

Although he did criticize publishing the report. I understand the argument that it puts us in danger, but ultimately I believe it will blow over and the truth matters more in the end.

 

[William Tell]

LOL! and the guys in Breitbart comments are throwing him to the dogs!

How dare Ted Cruz claim to support the 8th amendment.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

Bombarding third world hovels is all good tho'.

 

[William Tell]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...Torture-is-Wrong-Unambiguously-Period-The-End

Glad to hear him say that. It lends a load of credibility to our side.

Although he did criticize publishing the report. I understand the argument that it puts us in danger, but ultimately I believe it will blow over and the truth matters more in the end.

He did not, however state whether he believes the actions taken by the CIA were torture.

 

[TaftFan]

He did not, however state whether he believes the actions taken by the CIA were torture.

True. Although, believe it or not, I have seen a ton of conservatives saying torture is the right thing to do. They admit it freely.

 

[William Tell]

True. Although, believe it or not, I have seen a ton of conservatives saying torture is the right thing to do. They admit it freely.

Yes, I have seen it too. And they are the reason we are hated around the world. They do more harm to our troops than anyone else.

Invade a man's country, and he may fight you. But if you torture his dad, and rape his family, he will kick your ass or die trying. And these morons who support torture are ensuring that our own soldiers will be tortured.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

LOL! and the guys in Breitbart comments are throwing him to the dogs!

How dare Ted Cruz claim to support the 8th amendment.

A bunch of whores said at some time that the Constitution doesn't follow the flag.

Meaning, the Eighth Amendment means nothing.

They refer to them as the Insular Cases if anyone cares to read about it.

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Wow, Cruz finally said something true, even if it may not be popular with his base.

 

[Brett85]

LOL! and the guys in Breitbart comments are throwing him to the dogs!

How dare Ted Cruz claim to support the 8th amendment.

I don't support the actions taken by the CIA, but at the same time I don't necessarily think the Bill of Rights applies to foreigners.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Glad to hear him say that. It lends a load of credibility to our side.

Although he did criticize publishing the report. I understand the argument that it puts us in danger, but ultimately I believe it will blow over and the truth matters more in the end.

Good for him for saying something that is not immoral in this case.
But how can you call him representative of "our side" ? Did you know Ted Cruz was Booed Off Stage At Christian Conference ?

 

[kcchiefs6465]

I don't support the actions taken by the CIA, but at the same time I don't necessarily think the Bill of Rights applies to foreigners.

Would you say that the BOR was founded upon natural law... or that humans, by their being, are granted, not from the government, certain inalienable rights?

 

[Christian Liberty]

Would you say that the BOR was founded upon natural law... or that humans, by their being, are granted, not from the government, certain inalienable rights?

I would say they come from GOD, not the constitution....

And thus, torture is ALWAYS wrong, regardless of laws, regardless of particulars.

 

[TaftFan]

Good for him for saying something that is not immoral in this case.
But how can you call him representative of "our side" ? Did you know Ted Cruz was Booed Off Stage At Christian Conference ?

I never said he was representative of our side.

 

[TheCount]

Although he did criticize publishing the report. I understand the argument that it puts us in danger, but ultimately I believe it will blow over and the truth matters more in the end.

On this topic, quite a number of (R)s seem to be mysteriously for government transparency when it's anything that could damage the Obama administration, but they'll turn on a dime to criticize release of anything military and/or pre-2008.

 

[Brett85]

Would you say that the BOR was founded upon natural law... or that humans, by their being, are granted, not from the government, certain inalienable rights?

Yes, but it's not up to the U.S government to enforce natural rights around the globe. If someone commits murder in Sweden, the U.S government doesn't have an obligation to go arrest the person who committed murder, bring them back to the United States, and give them a trial by jury. We can't export our Constitution to the entire world.

 

[BV2]

Yes, but it's not up to the U.S government to enforce natural rights around the globe. If someone commits murder in Sweden, the U.S government doesn't have an obligation to go arrest the person who committed murder, bring them back to the United States, and give them a trial by jury. We can't export our Constitution to the entire world.

Big difference between enforcing and actively violating, wouldn't you say?

 

[Brett85]

Big difference between enforcing and actively violating, wouldn't you say?

We violate international law when we torture people. Torture is illegal under international law, and I'm not defending it. However, the Bill of Rights has never applied to non U.S citizens. No court has ever ruled that way. They have rights under international law, but they are not subject to the U.S Constitution. All people should have natural rights, and we should speak out in favor of freedom around the world. But the protections of our Constitution specifically have always applied to U.S citizens. Violations of international law can be handled by international courts and tribunals.

 

[ghengis86]

I don't support the actions taken by the CIA, but at the same time I don't necessarily think the Bill of Rights applies to foreigners.

The constitution and amendments were written to govern and restrict the US government, not individuals.

 

[Pericles]

Yes, I have seen it too. And they are the reason we are hated around the world. They do more harm to our troops than anyone else.

Invade a man's country, and he may fight you. But if you torture his dad, and rape his family, he will kick your ass or die trying. And these morons who support torture are ensuring that our own soldiers will be tortured.

Our own soldiers were tortured in WWII in Asia, and in every war since. One might argue that we are merely catching up with the rest of the world.

 

[William Tell]

Our own soldiers were tortured in WWII in Asia, and in every war since. One might argue that we are merely catching up with the rest of the world.

Yes, and the Japanese were charged with war crimes for 'enhanced interrogation'