See This Guy Get Through a DUI Checkpoint Without Saying a Word

[donnay]

See This Guy Get Through a DUI Checkpoint Without Saying a Word
Thanks to What He Hung Out His Car Window...

by Zach Noble | The Blaze | January 3, 2015




Continued...

 

[69360]

Seems like a good idea.

 

[donnay]

The problem is, it still violates the 4th amendment--we are becoming conditioned to showing our papers.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

I wonder what happens when a power tripping cop yanks your Fair DUI Flyer out of the window, and leaves you without your license and registration? Better make copies and use them, rather than the real deal.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

The problem is, it still violates the 4th amendment--we are becoming conditioned to showing our papers.

Even better point. Thanks.

 

[Crashland]

The other important point they did not mention is to being multiple cameras (preferably, uploading online in realtime). If you don't have proof, they can always just claim you rolled down your window even if you didn't.

 

[69360]

The problem is, it still violates the 4th amendment--we are becoming conditioned to showing our papers.

He didn't show anything they couldn't have found out by running his plates anyway.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Truth be told, the likely reason they let him through completely unmolested is they figured just by looking at it it was a YouTube stunt by a liberty person. We've kinda become a trope by now.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

"hmm,,, weird legally-worded flyer, meeting all the legal necessities for this checkstop, car with multiple people inside, cameras in evidence.... yeah these people aren't drunk, they are fishing for something crazy to put on YouTube.... Let 'em go, I don't feel like being crazy on YouTube tonight."

 

[SeanTX]

I wonder what happens when a power tripping cop yanks your Fair DUI Flyer out of the window, and leaves you without your license and registration? Better make copies and use them, rather than the real deal.

Hell, they could open your car door, or break out the window (has been done) , pull your ass out, and kill you on the spot and it would be "justified."

As more and more proles get "uppity" and demand their rights there will be a lot more of that happening ... but, things have to get worse before they can get better ..

 

[69360]

"hmm,,, weird legally-worded flyer, meeting all the legal necessities for this checkstop, car with multiple people inside, cameras in evidence.... yeah these people aren't drunk, they are fishing for something crazy to put on YouTube.... Let 'em go, I don't feel like being crazy on YouTube tonight."

Probably true. These stunts are well know by now.

 

[Matt Collins]

Truth be told, the likely reason they let him through completely unmolested is they figured just by looking at it it was a YouTube stunt by a liberty person. We've kinda become a trope by now.

EXACTLY!



One LEO even says so explicitly in this video from last week:






Now, just imagine if more people had the courage and knowledge to do this every time they were unjustly pulled over by the police...

 

[BUSHLIED]

The problem is, it still violates the 4th amendment--we are becoming conditioned to showing our papers.

Not sure I see it that way. The paper he is showing is conditioning him to exercise his right in a very specific manner. I believe that the problem here. I believe the Supreme Court has interpreted a recent criminal case that if a person does not invoke very specifically his or her rights then they have been waived or otherwise would not have put a police officier on notice, then the police did not do something wrong.

I suspect the average American understands they have "rights" but they do not know how to constitutionally invoke them. The paper held up does that very clearly. So the problem is that the courts are demanding that people exercise their rights a "proper way" versus holding police accountable to recognizing people rights and changes THEIR behaviors. Placing the burden on the people.

So far, I have not had to go through a check-point so we'll what happens.

 

[Indy Vidual]

See This Guy Get Through a DUI Checkpoint Without Saying a Word
Thanks to What He Hung Out His Car Window...

by Zach Noble | The Blaze | January 3, 2015




Continued...

+1776
Is freedom learning how to win?

 

[Matt Collins]

+1776
Is freedom learning how to win?

It's a step in the right direction, but even having the checkpoints in the first place, or being asked to produce ID without reasonable suspicion / probable cause is an abomination to liberty.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

EXACTLY!



One LEO even says so explicitly in this video from last week:






Now, just imagine if more people had the courage and knowledge to do this every time they were unjustly pulled over by the police...

CopBlocking would probably get me in so much trouble. If I had known that that was the pepper spray guy like he did, when he said "have a nice day" I would have had to been a jackass and said "you don't" or something equally flip that might have gotten me sprayed and beaten lol. When I ran into these things while campaigning I gave them lectures and tried to give them Constitutions, but they all said they weren't allowed to take them. Heh.

 

[KCIndy]

"The second you open your window, they can say they smell alcohol.... the second you talk to them, they can claim they think your speech is slurred..."

That's great, but what happens when they're using dogs? Dogs can be trained to "alert" upon very subtle commands by the handler. I'm guessing that in this particular instance the Sheriff's Department guys are guessing - as Gunny notes - that they're dealing with liberty activists and no one wants to have to mess with going all nine rounds for no good reason.

I'm thrilled it worked for these guys - I really am. But I doubt if this trick would work so well with some of the Federal agencies like the Border Patrol, who run dogs all the time and seem to get a real thrill from handing out beat-downs.

 

[jmdrake]

EXACTLY!



One LEO even says so explicitly in this video from last week:






Now, just imagine if more people had the courage and knowledge to do this every time they were unjustly pulled over by the police...

LOL that he knew the cops name already. That's gotta scare the mess out of LEO.

 

[PRB]

Hanging your DL outside your window is hardly easier, safer or more avoidant than saying a few words.

Why didn't he do the old "I don't need a driver license to drive" trick?

 

[PRB]

The problem is, it still violates the 4th amendment--we are becoming conditioned to showing our papers.

Exactly, instead of being asked to show his license, he just automatically displayed it to them. So hooray for the guy who found a way to consent to stops and ID checks without using his mouth, we know the saying, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER.