Secessionists formally launch quest for California's independence

[Feeding the Abscess]

The US government would allow California to secede over its dead body. Far too much economic activity would be lost.

 

[Anti Federalist]

The US government would allow California to secede over its dead body. Far too much economic activity would be lost.

And what are they (the fedgov) going to do?

Start an armed conflict to force them to stay united, eternally bonded in a loathsome relationship with a bunch of racists and homophobes and climate terrorists?

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

And what are they (the fedgov) going to do?

Start an armed conflict to force them to stay united, eternally bonded in a loathsome relationship with a bunch of racists and homophobes and climate terrorists?

If California were a country, it would contain the 6th largest economy in the world. The answer is yes.

 

[Anti Federalist]

If California were a country, it would contain the 6th largest economy in the world. The answer is yes.

I don't think you savvy what I am up to here...

 

[Anti Federalist]

Down with DC Trumpist Imperialism:

"National aspirations must be respected; people may now be dominated and governed only by their own consent. Self determination is not a mere phrase; it is an imperative principle of action. . . . " — Woodrow Wilson

#CalExit Now

Clearly, the vast majority of Californians do not consent to Trumpism.

Self determination and secession is their human right.

 

[The Gold Standard]

The US government would allow California to secede over its dead body. Far too much economic activity would be lost.

Precisely. Maybe our Fuhrer threatening to spill their blood will get scare some more states into secession. I am in full support of #CalExit.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Precisely. Maybe our Fuhrer threatening to spill their blood will get scare some more states into secession. I am in full support of #CalExit.

^^this^^ I would support it as their right to do so and to light a fire that others do the same.

 

[kahless]

So let me get this straight. Shervin was born Iran and at a very early age his family was allowed to immigrate to the US to escape Iranian oppression. His father was on an execution list for broadcasting information to help people escape Iran. In the US he has lived this wonderful life of freedom and extreme wealth that most Americans can only dream of. As a thank you this douchebag starts a secessionist movement.

It almost makes me want to say deport that asshole back to Iran but he became a US citizen and I do not believe in the death penalty.

 

[Anti Federalist]

So let me get this straight. Shervin was born Iran and at a very early age his family was allowed to immigrate to the US to escape Iranian oppression. His father was on an execution list for broadcasting information to help people escape Iran. In the US he has lived this wonderful life of freedom and extreme wealth that most Americans can only dream of. As a thank you this douchebag starts a secessionist movement.

It almost makes me want to say deport that asshole back to Iran but he became a US citizen and I do not believe in the death penalty.

And he's right.

Self determination is a human right.

#CalExit Now!

 

[kahless]

And he's right.

Self determination is a human right.

#CalExit Now!

I have said here before I support a right to self determination - state and regional succession. In this case however seeing who is behind it and the reasons I just call bullshit.

 

[oyarde]

The US government would allow California to secede over its dead body. Far too much economic activity would be lost.

California needs to man up .

 

[Anti Federalist]

I have said here before I support a right to self determination - state and regional succession. In this case however seeing who is behind it and the reasons I just call bullshit.

LOL...all their reasons are bullshit. None of them are rooted in individual liberty and freedom, just a bunch of crackpot regulatory state economics and identity politics.

Who cares...just so they go...who the hell cares if they turn into North Korea west?

Just go.

 

[kahless]

[MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION], If it was a Conservative or Libertarian state it would be a different matter. On this one however I am rethinking my beliefs and are against it.

I could see down the road an independent California allowing mass Asian immigration as well as an open border with Mexico. Give it time they would have a large military, be beholden to foreign powers and pose a threat to the rest of the US or any smaller break away regions or states. The west would be so outnumbered we would all be screwed and have to submit to whatever fascist regime they impose.

 

[Danke]

I'd imagine other states will still be getting their fruits and nuts.

 

[The Northbreather]

What about all the wine!!

 

[oyarde]

[MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION], If it was a Conservative or Libertarian state it would be a different matter. On this one however I am rethinking my beliefs and are against it.

I could see down the road an independent California allowing mass Asian immigration as well as an open border with Mexico. Give it time they would have a large military, be beholden to foreign powers and pose a threat to the rest of the US or any smaller break away regions or states. The west would be so outnumbered we would all be screwed and have to submit to whatever fascist regime they impose.

They cannot defeat us .

 

[Anti Federalist]

[MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION], If it was a Conservative or Libertarian state it would be a different matter. On this one however I am rethinking my beliefs and are against it.

I could see down the road an independent California allowing mass Asian immigration as well as an open border with Mexico. Give it time they would have a large military, be beholden to foreign powers and pose a threat to the rest of the US or any smaller break away regions or states. The west would be so outnumbered we would all be screwed and have to submit to whatever fascist regime they impose.

Meh, that's the Cuba argument.

If they have an open border with Mexico, then why would they not become a second world corrupt state, like Mexico?

Only difference is that everybody will have learned their lesson by then.

No, they want to go, we should encourage and facilitate that as much as possible.

 

[The Northbreather]

Many will die before Sam gives up Silicon Valley

 

[The Northbreather]

They cannot defeat us .

Which us

 

[The Gold Standard]

I have said here before I support a right to self determination - state and regional succession. In this case however seeing who is behind it and the reasons I just call bullshit.

Yes, we know. He's brown, so he must not be smart enough to understand what he's really trying to do. We should really send him home and let the white folks decide the matter.