Secession Sign-up Thread

Treason must consist of levying war against the U.S. or adhering to its enemies. I don't think that discussing, or supporting, secession would qualify.
 
Didn't the confederates fire on Fort Sumter first and therefore started the war?
The fort was occupied by American (foreign) troops. How would you react to foreign troops remaining on your land after you had told them to leave?
 
And live in a country run by people on this forum? LOL. I like you guys (some of you anyway) but no.
 
You really want people to put down their real name?

Who are you kidding, you must think we are all the same sheep that followed Santorum all the way to the end, or maybe the same people that follow Romney down to the tiny rally, how about just put up a poll, and you will probably get a better response, really your telling people not to discuss it?
Sorry for your presumptuousness (it is a real word) your talking to the smartest class in the school.

Secession? That will be met with force, just start a movement in your state, you know each state has the right to do this don't you, and some states have it even easier, like Texas.

The best recourse is to stop watching tv stop buying what they are pushing, start buying local products, start your own garden, get some rabbits and chickens.

They are entirely dependent on your buying what they sell, even political rhetoric, if we start to ignore them, they will start to come around, they are people, they are trying to impress their friends and family with their power, its all about the children right?

In reality, because of the internet, we don't even need governments anymore, they are an obstruction to progress.

Don't tell me not to discuss something on a libertarian forum.
 
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The fort was occupied by American (foreign) troops. How would you react to foreign troops remaining on your land after you had told them to leave?

And those troops had orders from Lincoln to intercept international shipping and collect a tariff on it. That is an act of war under international law. SO, if you want to get technical about it, the first act of war was by the USA against the CSA. And even if the CSA had not fired on Fort Sumter, the stated strategy of the USA was to provoke an armed conflict so they could justify an invasion. The USA was determined to subdue the CSA by force one way or another.
 
And those troops had orders from Lincoln to intercept international shipping and collect a tariff on it. That is an act of war under international law. SO, if you want to get technical about it, the first act of war was by the USA against the CSA. And even if the CSA had not fired on Fort Sumter, the stated strategy of the USA was to provoke an armed conflict so they could justify an invasion. The USA was determined to subdue the CSA by force one way or another.

Isn't that like saying FDR embargoing (an act of war) oil and provoking Japan to attack Pearl Harbor?

Its really interesting to see perspectives of different point of views instead of might makes right.
 
I like how an embargo is an act of war. Damn we should have invaded the middle east and siezed the oil fields in 73. The bastards put an embargo on us.
 
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