Secession is the only way out

[green73]

Dilorenzo:

So Senator Rand Paul held a thirteen-hour filibuster to protest the Obammunists' assertion of a "right" to murder American citizens with drones. Senators McCain and Graham predictably defended the murder of American citizens without any due process because, well, because they are fascists, as is the hysterical David Frum and quite a few other equally-hysterical neoconmen.

Sorry guys, but this "debate" was ended more than 140 years ago when the U.S. government established the precedent of murdering hundreds of thousands of American citizens and imprisoning thousands of Northern-state political dissenters without any due process. In fact, neocons like Frum, McCain and Graham often celebrate this fact. I refer, of course, to the mass murder of between 350,000 and 450,000 citizens (according to new research) of the Southern states by the Lincoln regime. Lincoln never conceded that secession was legal; therefore, he considered all Southerners as U.S. citizens and orchestrated the waging of total war on them for four years. He was famous for his devilish experimenting with bigger and better weapons of mass destruction --the "drones" of his day. He rewarded generals like Sherman and Sheridan for supervising the pillaging, plundering, murdering, and raping of Southern civilians during the "March to the Sea" and the burning down of the entire Shenandoah Valley after the Confederate Army had vacated it. For this the cowardly and barbaric Sheridan has been portrayed as a "great war hero."

After the war, the exact same individuals commenced a 25 year campaign of genocide against the Plains Indians, eventually murdering about 45,000 of them, including thousands of women and children, and placing the rest in concentration camps called "reservations."

The Constitution is long dead, Senator Paul. Secession is the only way out.

 

[AuH20]

But you need some semblance of popular support to get to secession. Rand Paul is building a versatile political movement that can perform at the political circus level or transfer over to a secessionist movement if need be.

 

[itshappening]

Tom Woods was really good on Alex Jones today (the guest host woman)

He pointed out that nullification is not an acceptable opinion and/or solution on the main talk shows. He says you wont hear a peep about it. He's right of course... They never bring it up despite the fact that it's now mainstreamed with WA and CO nullifiying marijuana law.

I suggest you check it out by listening to the stream. He was on for a full hour.

I'd love for someone to call in to Mark Levin and bring up nullification since he's a constitutional lawyer. Most of them are pansies though who believe in the Fed Gov and its evil laws. Nullification to them is unconscionable because it means a mockery of the strong central government and they seem to ignore it despite the fact that "it's happening".

 

[green73]

Tom Woods was really good on Alex Jones today (the guest host woman)

He pointed out that nullification is not an acceptable opinion and/or solution on the main talk shows. He says you wont hear a peep about it. He's right of course... They never bring it up despite the fact that it's now mainstreamed with WA and CO nullifiying marijuana law.

I suggest you check it out by listening to the stream. He was on for a full hour.

I'd love for someone to call in to Mark Levin and bring up nullification since he's a constitutional lawyer. Most of them are pansies though who believe in the Fed Gov and its evil laws. Nullification to them is unconscionable because it means a mockery of the strong central government and they seem to ignore it despite the fact that "it's happening".

Thanks. I didn't even know he was on. I checked out their youtube channel but it's not there. Here's the mp3

http://rss.infowars.com/20130308_Fri_Alex.mp3

I'll probably listen tomorrow.

 

[muzzled dogg]

http://freestateproject.org/

once you get here you'll realize you're out

 

[ZENemy]

Well the end of the amendment says "the state...........or the people"

well the states suck, so, we gotta BE the people.

Iceland built a new congress of 500 and arrested the banksters!

 

[Smart3]

Secession (be it Vermont, New Hampshire, Texas or Alaska) is extremely unlikely.

Let us not forget that not a single secession effort in Canada, the US, Mexico* or any (other) Latin American countries (excluding Gran Colombia) has been successful.

If Puerto Rico can't become independent, what makes you think states will be able?

*The secession of Imperial possessions like Guatemala notwithstanding

 

[mad cow]

Puerto Rico can become independent tomorrow if they vote for it.I wish they would.

 

[SonofThunder]

Secession is imminent but it won't come from some principled movement, it will come from a USSR style collapse. DiLorenzo is still the man though.

 

[Mini-Me]

Secession (be it Vermont, New Hampshire, Texas or Alaska) is extremely unlikely.

Let us not forget that not a single secession effort in Canada, the US, Mexico* or any (other) Latin American countries (excluding Gran Colombia) has been successful.

If Puerto Rico can't become independent, what makes you think states will be able?

*The secession of Imperial possessions like Guatemala notwithstanding

Mainly because the federal government is going to collapse at some point.

 

[emazur]

Yeah, but secession into what? A libertarian society? Sure. But it's far more likely the would-be secessionists will be the "rah-rah-rha Bush, if only Santorum had won we'd be on the right track" type of secessionists. The liberals won't talk of secession, they'll just talk about (in a rare showing of individualism) personally moving to Canada if Republican candidate X wins an election.

 

[gwax23]

I would like to see secession happen but I doubt it. On

Maybe after the inevitable collapse of the dollar we could see a Soviet Union like dismemberment...maybe maybe not.

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

http://freestateproject.org/

once you get here you'll realize you're out

Obama: 368,529 (52.2%)
Romney: 327,870 (46.4%)

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/new-hampshire/

 

[green73]

Secession is imminent but it won't come from some principled movement, it will come from a USSR style collapse. DiLorenzo is still the man though.

I agree.

 

[muzzled dogg]

Obama: 368,529 (52.2%)
Romney: 327,870 (46.4%)

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/new-hampshire/

and?

 

[Smart3]

there's always the option to kick states out of the Union instead of leaving it ourselves.

I nominate Alabama and Mississippi, to form the new nation of Waziristan.

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

there's always the option to kick states out of the Union instead of leaving it ourselves.

I nominate Alabama and Mississippi, to form the new nation of Waziristan.

I nominate California, since it's a failed state, and puts Boxer and that f-ing Feinstein in the U.S. Senate.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Tom Woods was really good on Alex Jones today (the guest host woman)

He pointed out that nullification is not an acceptable opinion and/or solution on the main talk shows. He says you wont hear a peep about it. He's right of course... They never bring it up despite the fact that it's now mainstreamed with WA and CO nullifiying marijuana law.

I suggest you check it out by listening to the stream. He was on for a full hour.

I'd love for someone to call in to Mark Levin and bring up nullification since he's a constitutional lawyer. Most of them are pansies though who believe in the Fed Gov and its evil laws. Nullification to them is unconscionable because it means a mockery of the strong central government and they seem to ignore it despite the fact that "it's happening".

Levin is part of the Lincoln Cult and believes the secession/nullification issue was "resolved" by the War Of Northern Aggression.

 

[mad cow]

there's always the option to kick states out of the Union instead of leaving it ourselves.

I nominate Alabama and Mississippi, to form the new nation of Waziristan.

Please kick them out!I would move there so fast I might strain something in the process.

 

[Smart3]

I nominate California, since it's a failed state, and puts Boxer and that f-ing Feinstein in the U.S. Senate.

California is certainly large enough to go its own, but it's also the most likely to remain in the Union even if there is a collapse.