Sean Hannity Flees Ron Paul Supporters

[Ozwest]

I've pissed off a lot of people tonight, but I lived in America for 23 years, and you guys are way too serious....

 

[DaronWestbrooke]

Lol....That reminds me of Bush's statement...."either your with us or you are against us".

You took the words out of my mouth. I am tired of people trying to keep the rEVOLution down! Do they want change or not?

 

[chipvogel]

so let me get this straight....Sean Hannity was spammed
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with snowballs?

 

[Cardinal Red]

Lol....That reminds me of Bush's statement...."either your with us or you are against us".

Yeah, it is that simple I'm afraid-- from the perspective of winning elections, this is one of those You're either with us or against us moments. Anyone who I see justifying this, I will not talk to them and I will do everything within my power to marginalize them from our movement.

If you disagree, why don't you tell me all about the election campaign YOU participated in, in which harassing and assaulting major members of the media who influence huge voting blocs in your constituency, has helped you win. You can even satisfy me by telling me of any campaigns that you are AWARE OF that have used this strategy.

Let me save you the time, as someone who has followed elections for two decades-- It has never happened.

 

[CrazyRonPaulSupporter]

You took the words out of my mouth. I am tired of people trying to keep the rEVOLution down! Do they want change or not?

I guess now that the revolution is becoming "real" people chicken out. I'm not for violence, but even Ron Paul himself supports civil disobedience. That's why this fires me up even more, and I will work even harder to get Dr Paul elected so we can have our country back!

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[DaronWestbrooke]

I guess now that the revolution is becoming "real" people chicken out. I'm not for violence, but even Ron Paul himself supports civil disobedience. That's why this fires me up even more, and I will work even harder to get Dr Paul elected so we can have our country back!

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GOOD! we need some mobs in the streets at this point. Why should we obey the military-industrial complex we are fighting?

 

[Cardinal Red]

You took the words out of my mouth. I am tired of people trying to keep the rEVOLution down! Do they want change or not?

We want to win the Election Daron-- If any supporter of these actions would patiently and clearly explain how this action wins us the election, making reference to your knowledge of the demographics of undecided voters and how they will respond positively to this sort of action (and the attendant negative media publicity) I am happy to listen to that.

 

[CrazyRonPaulSupporter]

Yeah, it is that simple I'm afraid-- from the perspective of winning elections, this is one of those You're either with us or against us moments. Anyone who I see justifying this, I will not talk to them and I will do everything within my power to marginalize them from our movement.

If you disagree, why don't you tell me all about the election campaign YOU participated in, in which harassing and assaulting major members of the media who influence huge voting blocs in your constituency, has helped you win. You can even satisfy me by telling me of any campaigns that you are AWARE OF that have used this strategy.

Let me save you the time, as someone who has followed elections for two decades-- It has never happened.

All I can say to that is a quote from the good doctor himself: "It's not about me, it's about the message!"

 

[DaronWestbrooke]

We want to win the Election Daron-- If any supporter of these actions would patiently and clearly explain how this action wins us the election, making reference to your knowledge of the demographics of undecided voters and how they will respond positively to this sort of action (and the attendant negative media publicity) I am happy to listen to that.

Look at any poll, 90% of the people are not happy with what is going on. They are just too afraid to stand up. We are rising as an example that they don't need to be in fear of the controllers, they can rise up. The more they see resistance, the more they will resist.

This is a rEVOLution, not a tea party.

 

[Cardinal Red]

I guess now that the revolution is becoming "real" people chicken out. I'm not for violence, but even Ron Paul himself supports civil disobedience. That's why this fires me up even more, and I will work even harder to get Dr Paul elected so we can have our country back!

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OK I am done with my good deed for the day in correcting the errors of those who approve of these sorts of tactics-- so this is my last post for now and you can come up with whatever cute responses you like.

What we are objecting to was the violence and mob mentality-- No one was objecting to civil disobedience or of attempting to hold Hannity accountable. It was the chasing Hannity around and throwing snowballs that made this idiotic.

 

[RM918]

Woo. Wrong thread.

 

[Laja]

Stop picking on Ron Paul supporters. Divide and conquer. It's an old trick and works wonders. These were not real Ron Paul supporters.

 

[Mises]

I guess now that the revolution is becoming "real" people chicken out. I'm not for violence, but even Ron Paul himself supports civil disobedience. That's why this fires me up even more, and I will work even harder to get Dr Paul elected so we can have our country back!

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*Ahem* Do you know what civil disobedience is? It does not involve threatening another person with violence, chucking snowballs, or yelling obcenities. Civil disobedience means not following civil, administrative, or public laws you feel to be unjust or contrary to natural law and/or your own conscience. It is by its very nature a peaceful resistance to tyranny. See Henry David Thoreau on the matter, please.

 

[DesignerJoes]

I applaud those who chased Hannity!

Did they get alittle loud and possibly overzealous with cursing him ? sure ?

But overall they were non-violent and speaking out against someone who is part of fox news.

Fox News is trying to subvert our democracy through flagrant censorship, it is our patriotic duty to use civil / non-violent disobedience against them.

Hannity is most definitely partly responsible for Fox's spin machine, so he should be protested against as well.

In future cases ( SOUTH CAROLINA ) we can all agree to both be MORE forceful AND LESS violent / loud / rude .

For instance in this case:
One does not have to shout curses or be "mean" to be civilly disobedient.
One can still walk swiftly (follow Hannity in public ) speak softly but confidently & forcefully ( think MLK ).

But.....One can legally be EVEN MORE FORCEFUL than those on video and should !

What law was preventing people following him in into his hotel ?
What law was preventing people from getting a room at that hotel ?
What law was preventing a large band of people to get rooms at that hotel ?
What laws were preventing people lodging in adjacent hotels and following around Hannity everywhere he went to remind he was working for a fascist organization that is hurting our democracy ?

Do laws even apply in civil disobedience ? Not usually. In this case ? Probably not.

Please remember this when Paul gets censored at the Debate in Myrtle Beach, SC

 

[DesignerJoes]

above post explained why laws do not usually apply to civil disobedience

Just look at above post for a better explanation of why laws usually DO NOT apply to civil disobedience.

This is a very very important thing for Paul supporters to think about.

 

[DesignerJoes]

Shit...while I am at it ....

Do you think it would have been patriotic to organize a sit-in at that hotel ?

I think it's highly probable that the answer is yes!

 

[CrazyRonPaulSupporter]

*Ahem* Do you know what civil disobedience is? It does not involve threatening another person with violence, chucking snowballs, or yelling obcenities. Civil disobedience means not following civil, administrative, or public laws you feel to be unjust or contrary to natural law and/or your own conscience. It is by its very nature a peaceful resistance to tyranny. See Henry David Thoreau on the matter, please.

I know that post didn't come out right. My point was just that I'm not for violence, but for civil disobedience. But that clip made me want to go out canvassing even more....It just struck a chord...

 

[Mises]

I applaud those who chased Hannity!

Did they get alittle loud and possibly overzealous with cursing him ? sure ?

But overall they were non-violent and speaking out against someone who is part of fox news.

Fox News is trying to subvert our democracy through flagrant censorship, it is our patriotic duty to use civil / non-violent disobedience against them.

Hannity is most definitely partly responsible for Fox's spin machine, so he should be protested against as well.

In future cases ( SOUTH CAROLINA ) we can all agree to both be MORE forceful AND LESS violent / loud / rude .

For instance in this case:
One does not have to shout curses or be "mean" to be civilly disobedient.
One can still walk swiftly (follow Hannity in public ) speak softly but confidently & forcefully ( think MLK ).

But.....One can legally be EVEN MORE FORCEFUL than those on video and should !

What law was preventing people following him in into his hotel ?
What law was preventing people from getting a room at that hotel ?
What law was preventing a large band of people to get rooms at that hotel ?
What laws were preventing people lodging in adjacent hotels and following around Hannity everywhere he went to remind he was working for a fascist organization that is hurting our democracy ?

Do laws even apply in civil disobedience ? Not usually. In this case ? Probably not.

Please remember this when Paul gets censored at the Debate in Myrtle Beach, SC

Believe it or not, some laws do matter - natural laws that preclude a liberty-loving individual from threatening another person, or harming his property or life. As small an incident as throwing a snowball at someone is - it violates the rights of another individual and by definition is not civil disobedience. The same holds for going onto someone's property when you are not invited or have been asked to leave - it's not civil disobedience.

Not paying taxes, refusing military service, etc...civil disobedience. Not respecting another person's property rights = tyranny.

Let's be careful not to blur the lines. People who advocate for peace, liberty, and property rights must be careful to always respect the equal rights of others, no matter how much things they've said (or haven't said) have ticked us off.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

He will...it is on the front page of his website...there is no way he doesn't show it...

Oh, crap. I guess that means I have to watch that idiot tonight. What a sick sad world we live in.

 

[Thomas Paine]

Sean Hannity is more upset about the fact that he soiled his panties at the sight of Ron Paul supporters last night and he failed to pack an extra pair.