SCOTUS legalizes Gay Marriage - 10th Amendment Obliterated

[Wilf]

I'll grant this. This is fair. However, most forms of libertarianism wrongly teach that homosexual contact shouldn't be criminalized.

Really, that is wrong on so many levels

 

[TheCount]

I'm opposed to the efforts by the cultural left to impose presumptions about the private institution on the country, by public enforcement of its particular flavor of the concept over the preponderant history of civilization.

When you give the government a power to use against your neighbor, you have no right to complain when that power is later used against you.

 

[Madison320]

Gays should be allowed to enter into a marriage contract, however businesses should be allowed to end an employment contract if you are gay (or any other reason). On the one hand gays want to be treated like everyone else, on the other hand they want to retain special privileges. That's the part that bugs me.

 

[RabbitMan]

Gays should be allowed to enter into a marriage contract, however businesses should be allowed to end an employment contract if you are gay (or any other reason). On the one hand gays want to be treated like everyone else, on the other hand they want to retain special privileges. That's the part that bugs me.

Guys, I'm TRYING to do work and you keep sucking me back in!

What special privelage does someone who is homosexual have if they legally can't be fired for their sexual preference?
Folks have GOT to start using the Golden Rule!

If being heterosexual was being the minority, would you think it would be okay for your boss to fire you when she found out that you were attracted to women?

It's not a special privilege, it is protecting minorities from the tyranny of the majority!

And I'm going to go out there and not only tackle the slippery-slope argument, but put on the ol' swimming trunks and glide along.
Why shouldn't polygomy between consenting adults be legally recognized?

 

[Sam I am]

Gays should be allowed to enter into a marriage contract, however businesses should be allowed to end an employment contract if you are gay (or any other reason). On the one hand gays want to be treated like everyone else, on the other hand they want to retain special privileges. That's the part that bugs me.

Like what special privileges? I don't think that the employment thing you're eluding too is that "special", since If businesses started ending employment for straight marriage, they would probably face the same consequences that they would face if they ended it for gay marriage.

 

[Sonny Tufts]

The issue is governemnt conferring false legitimacy, and gays forcing all state governments AND churches to comply.

No one is forcing any church to accept the legitimacy of gay marriage.

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

No one is forcing any church to accept the legitimacy of gay marriage yet.

Fixed.

 

[AuH20]

When you give the government a power to use against your neighbor, you have no right to complain when that power is later used against you.

I think you make a valid point, but there is no constitutional authority at the federal level to create law that prohibits gay marriage or endorses it.

 

[Sola_Fide]

No one is forcing any church to accept the legitimacy of gay marriage.

Dude, you are living in fantasy land.

 

[RabbitMan]

Dude, you are living in fantasy land.

Please, do go on.

 

[Sonny Tufts]

Dude, you are living in fantasy land.

And you are woefully ignorant of the First Amendment, among other things.

 

[Smitty]

The next step will be two gays demanding to be married by the minister of the Westboro Baptist Church.

 

[Sola_Fide]

And you are woefully ignorant of the First Amendment, among other things.

No actually this ruling is ignorant of the first amendment.

 

[idiom]

Bigamy is still out though right?

Why can't Obamacare cover my side bitches too?

 

[RonPaulIsGreat]

In Summary: People complain on the internet.... and do NOTHING.... go back on Monday to their jobs most hate, play x-box, send their kid to a public school that will teach them whatever the gov wants, pay their taxes, and praise the military men and women for making it all possible.

 

[Sonny Tufts]

No actually this ruling is ignorant of the first amendment.

You are hopelessly clueless.

 

[kahless]

Allen West believes this could lead to civil war. There was already blow back from the Progressives pushing too hard that resulted in a lunatic like Dylan Roof. With the fall-out from the cultural purge related to his actions followed by Obamacare and now this, I believe he could right.

Why the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage could lead to civil war
http://allenbwest.com/2015/06/why-the-supreme-court-ruling-on-gay-marriage-could-lead-to-civil-war/

This could well be the straw that breaks the camel’s back – that camel being the up till now silent, passive Americans who have been cowed into “tolerating” societal changes that go counter to their fundamental beliefs.

 

[TheCount]

I think you make a valid point, but there is no constitutional authority at the federal level to create law that prohibits gay marriage or endorses it.

Article. IV.
Section. 1.

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

 

[Sola_Fide]

You are hopelessly clueless.

I might be. But at least I see judicial tyranny when its here. I'd much rather be a clueless Bible idiot who can actually see tyranny, than a wise, modern, progressive statist that is going to bring destruction and ruin to all of my friends and family.

 

[Sola_Fide]

And we see in this thread what I've noticed and talked about so many times:

Atheists who are "libertarians" lose all principle when something that is maybe even a little "non-Christian" gets forced on to people by the state.

I have yet to see a completely principled atheist who doesn't lose his convictions of anti statism when these hot button social issues come up like homosexuality or global warming or public education.

I don't believe an atheist can be a libertarian. His worldview and religion doesn't support a foundation of freedom. For freedom to be defended, morality must be defended, because freedom is a moral issue. Atheism cannot defend morality or freedom.