SC Debate - FNC (1/16/12) 9pm ET - Official Thread
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You can be 100% wrong and win an argument. Debating is not about being right or wrong, but about being able to persuade people and make them empathize with your message and play into their feelings.
They call Newt smart because he`s best among the candidates able to do just that.
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I liked how they booed the Golden Rule...
Ron Paul should object to Bret Baier's characterization of his foreign policy views as "Left of Obama". This is the 2nd time he's done this.
When "Left" is mentioned, it's time for a history lesson. Tell people that Irving Kristol was a Trotskyite Democrat who supported Humphrey in 1968,
and Nixon in 1972, Socialists for Nixon, and the term "Neoconservative" was used to describe Irving Kristol. Bob Dole in 1976 referred to "Democrat Wars".
Bill Kristol now works for Fox. Traditional Republicans, Traditional Conservatives, were not foolish in the use of our strength. See Robert Taft who ran
for President in 1940, 1944 and 1952, coming in 2nd in delegates each time. Talk about Taft and Kristol.
When "Left" is mentioned, it's time for a history lesson. Tell people that Irving Kristol was a Trotskyite Democrat who supported Humphrey in 1968,
and Nixon in 1972, Socialists for Nixon, and the term "Neoconservative" was used to describe Irving Kristol. Bob Dole in 1976 referred to "Democrat Wars".
Bill Kristol now works for Fox. Traditional Republicans, Traditional Conservatives, were not foolish in the use of our strength. See Robert Taft who ran
for President in 1940, 1944 and 1952, coming in 2nd in delegates each time. Talk about Taft and Kristol.
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Again he is a polished politician. Even Mitt who has been in politics some twenty years, made gaffes tonight--especially when Santorum asked him about felons who have served their time, have done their probation--should they be allowed to vote?
I would have said, they should not only be allowed to vote but they should be allowed to exercise their second amendment right once again!
After tonight, Newt is going to pick up 3 to 5 points and will likely finish second. Ron is going to have to fight for third place with Santorum. Perry is hopeless.
Romney is still going to win South Carolina, but I think now his percentage will just about match New Hampshire 37% to 39%.
South Carolina was never going to be easy for us, but I am glad that the Campaign is competing. We really need to beat Santorum!!!
Romney is still going to win South Carolina, but I think now his percentage will just about match New Hampshire 37% to 39%.
South Carolina was never going to be easy for us, but I am glad that the Campaign is competing. We really need to beat Santorum!!!
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Sheesh you are an old geezer. j/k
I was in college in the 80's, I am not very far behind you. 
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Brett Baier looked like a complete horse's ass when he kept prodding Doctor Paul on international law. It really was sickening. Ron should have been more forceful and stated that we need to immediately withdraw from the UN as well as NATO.
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Sheesh you are an old geezer. j/k
LOL, I was in college in the 80's too. Sometimes I even go back for a few courses.
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I'd like to say how South Carolina makes the GOP look bad. Minorities see GOP as racist, bible thumpin, rich white folks. My Chinese-American friends are Democrats because of the vocal group of people within the GOP that spout and cheer racist things.
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"Dick Morris: "Ron Paul decisively lost [the debate]."
Hah! He says that after every debate. He's a neocon, what do you expect?
Hah! He says that after every debate. He's a neocon, what do you expect?
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Now I do not know about that we have another debate coming up yet. However, you need not dismiss good ole' boy Perry. From the crowds roars tonight they definitely are in sync with Perry's old fashioned rival preaching.
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Maybe someday we can get control of a northern "peace" state like Vermont or Wisconsin or Minnesota or the Dakota and push their primary/caucus ahead of South Carolina.
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And minorities frequently talk about themselves as special sub-groups entitled to special privileges. It takes two to tango.
I know this very well from an Asian friend I used to have. It`s a damn shame they flock to democrats because of this. It`s a really stupid reason for choosing your political affiliation but most people react emotionally.
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LOL, I was in college in the 80's too. Sometimes I even go back for a few courses.
I even campaigned for Reagan!
I met Dr. Paul too, right around that time!Some people did not like hearing our foreign policy analyzed in that way. It definitely could work. Explicitly say the golden rule. Do unto others. We are attacking people who did not attack us? Do we want other countries, who we didn't attack, to attack us?
Ron wins.....he always wins. There is something 'they' don't get. Its not about Ron Paul....its about 'the' message. Thats why most of us are here, and why we can get Ron Paul 'the messenger' a million plus bucks in one day, and perform behind the scenes activism by the thousands.
Still a long way to go...
Still a long way to go...
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