SC Debate - FNC (1/16/12) 9pm ET - Official Thread

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

Bah...in our day, we didn't need no new-fangled "NEW POSTS" button! We had to go to each sub-forum and look to see if there were any new posts in bolded threads! And we were damn glad to have that! Spoiled kids!

 

[AuH20]

How exactly did I root for Newt?

Newt won the debate on style points. In fact, he wins most of the debates.

 

[Lucille]

Must be there were very few Christians in the crowd.

“Evangelical Christianity, as everyone knows, is founded upon hate, as the Christianity of Christ was founded upon love.”
--H. L. Mencken

 

[F3d]

The crowd cheered at the end of his answer so who cares. It's like the Family Guy undecided voters video. lol

 

[cindy25]

there is a CNN debate in 3 days; it will be interesting if they will also pimp Newt.

 

[Dr.3D]

Bah...in our day, we didn't need no new-fangled "NEW POSTS" button! We had to go to each sub-forum and look to see if there were any new posts in bolded threads! And we were damn glad to have that! Spoiled kids!

Yeah. and we didn't even have an internet.

 

[TVMH]

Dick Morris: "Ron Paul decisively lost [the debate]."

We shall see. If the Christians are really Christian, and the general public is really against wars, then RP will surge. If the public in SC is really a bunch of feel good Christians and war mongers, then RP is dead in the water there. The next few days should tell. I am really interested to see how people react to the "golden rule" remark. Might be a campaign killer, might be that the people see him as a kinda Jesus figure being persecuted by the Romans or whoever it was. Gonna be interesting.

you say that like it's a bad thing.

 

[donnay]

Newt won the debate on style points. In fact, he wins most of the debates.

Newt is a slick polished politician as is Santorum and Romney. They all talk out of both sides of their mouth.

 

[Dr.3D]

“Evangelical Christianity, as everyone knows, is founded upon hate, as the Christianity of Christ was founded upon love.”
--H. L. Mencken

Guess that explains it. If so... then they are not Christians.

 

[Eric21ND]

Just a little bit of practice and Ron could knock the Osama question out of the park. Instead he comes across as some stumbling fool and it will cost him big time. Any chance he had to come in second in South Carolina went down the tubes tonight. You are letting people down Ron. You should have spent the last few days going over every possible debate question.

We'll probably lose 2-5% in SC since it was such a muddled, bungled response.

 

[svobody]

We'll probably lose 2-5% in SC since it was such a muddled, bungled response.

Lmao yea right. We are going up with a new great ad and there is another debate THURSDAY NIGHT. People don't remember things from debate to debate. How many things can you remember from the last debate? All that matters is the debate before the primary.

 

[AuH20]

Newt is a slick polished politician as is Santorum and Romney. They all talk out of both sides of their mouth.

I generally agree with that point, but Newt is master debater. He has numerous anecdotes, statistics and facts at his disposal on nearly every seemingly obscure subject.

 

[donnay]

Yeah. and we didn't even have an internet.

ROFL! We walked to school up hill, both ways too!

In the 80's we used BBB and Fax machines.

 

[JuicyG]

On that particular question, he came off as a weak, ineffectual Dennis Kucinich as opposed to a Pat Buchanan type who could deliver the very same message with strength and clarity. But that's Ron. He's the one we brought to the dance. You know this. He's not going to be remade into some alpha male type that captivates audiences.

That`s why I`m saying he could have used some of Ventura`s delivery. On the Bin Ladin question, he came across as unsure of himself and weak to most from the audience, who don`t understand where he`s coming from.
People don`t like someone they perceive as weak. Unfortunately this plays well into the "he`s weak of foreign policy" meme. This came in big contrast to the previous debate where he stood his ground against Newt and said "I went". That was strong, but tonight his delivery was bit like whimpering shintzu.

I`d air some strong, testosterone filled ads on SC until election day to fix this. The emotional ad with pampering up to veterans is nice but doesn`t address the weakness issue which was reinforced tonight. He should air some strong, tough ad, attacking hawks as unpatriotic for wasting country resources and giving in to lobbying.

 

[Kevin Smyth]

Newt won the debate on style points. In fact, he wins most of the debates.

Newt is a good debater and it doesn't mean we are FOR Newt to say that.

 

[Dr.3D]

ROFL! We walked to school up hill, both ways too!

In the 80's we used BBB and Fax machines.

In the 80's I had been out of high school for 15 years.

 

[driller80545]

you say that like it's a bad thing.

Nope, didn't mean it to sound like a bad thing. I meant that he would surge to a landslide victory if that were the case.

 

[Edward]

Newt is a good debater and it doesn't mean we are FOR Newt to say that.

What bothers me is when people in the MSM confusing style for substance say that Newt is the "smartest person in the room". WTF?!

 

[AuH20]

That why I`m saying he could have used some of Ventura`s delivery. He came across and unsure of himself and weak to most from the audience who don`t understand where he`s coming from.
People don`t like someone they perceive as weak. Unfortunately this plays well into the "he`s weak of foreign policy" meme. This came in big contract to the previous debate where he stood his ground against Newt and said "I went". That was strong, but tonight his delivery was bit like whimpering shintzu.

I`d air some strong, testosterone filled ads on SC until election day to fix this. The emotional ad with pampering up to veterans is nice but doesn`t address the weakness issue which was reinforced tonight. He should air some strong, tough ad, attacking hawks as unpatriotic for wasting country resources and giving in to lobbying.

In terms of pure visuals, Ron looks like he could barely repel a wily alleycat from his stoop, never-mind defend an entire nation. Remember that images are very powerful and it must be noted that vain Americans typically prefer style over substance. Ron is absolutely a -10 in terms of style.

 

[mport1]

I think Newt is a terrible debater. I don't understand why people think he does well. He comes off as a pompous ass. I'd think people would get extremely turned off by the way he acts. I'd say besides Perry he is the worst debater.