SC Debate - FNC (1/16/12) 9pm ET - Official Thread

[AuH20]

Every debate Ron gets asked about Osama and Pakistan. It is long past time he had a serious set of talking points. This is the second time Bret Bair said his views are to the left of Obama and he has no reply. He looks horrible.

Ron, you're not getting any more money out of me. A little big of practice and you could knock that question out of the park, but instead you ramble on like you're dazed and confused. It is a very simple question.

Don't despair. Ron is moving the ball up the field. We could lose the battle, but very well win the war.

 

[William R]

Bull. He gave the same reply he ALWAYS gives.

Nonsense. He rambles on like he's dazed and confused. He looked horrible.

 

[cheeseman]

My takeaway is that this debate was way more harsh for Romney. The more time he got to talk, the more rope he got to hang himself with. Newt was always a good debater, but that doesn't do him since his record is awful. All talk, no walk.

For Dr. Paul, it answered some questions for fencesitters. Score points for explaining the difference between military spending and defense spending, and how he'd actually have more bases in the US. And on military spending by making the Baghdad embassy/Vatican comparison.

But he didn't score any debate brownie points on the OBL q. Just something he needs to be prepared for next time.

The people who would never vote for Dr. Paul, who cares how loud they boo. Ron just needs to be as confident and clear as possible with his answers to sway those who are close to joining. Give the MSM less ammo.

 

[wgadget]

Uh, that was the OP's point. His same answer SUCKS.

He's NOT going to change his answers on Foreign Policy.

 

[Mark37snj]

http://live.foxnews.com/

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RON PAUL ANALYSIS COMING UP NEXT ON FOX!!!

 

[steph3n]

Nonsense. He rambles on like he's dazed and confused. He looked horrible.

No it didn't look dazed or confused, but a bit lost for how to express, and failed in delivery, it was like having a 15 year run on 4th and 14, and then fumbling the ball just as you get a yard past the first down marker.

 

[AuH20]

Nonsense. He rambles on like he's dazed and confused. He looked horrible.

His delivery and pace is less than adequate but his ideas are golden. Eventually, we're going to get a better spokesman. Relax. Ron is being Ron. Can't teach an old dog new tricks.

 

[Barrex]

FAIR AND BALANCED BUT NOT IN PRIME TIME WHEN PEOPLE ARE WATCHING

 

[Kevin Smyth]

He did have a great set of talking points, it's too bad that you and the rest of the Republican idiots are too stupid to understand it.

He turned a VERY simple question about the special operation in Pakistan to get Bin Laden into a confused ramble about Pakistan's sovereignty and not bombing people over there and the golden rule, what on Earth did that have to do with the question?

 

[driller80545]

Local news just said Newt and Romney and Perry did good at the debate. Ron Paul was heavily booed. That's all.

 

[kill the banks]

when we started the constitution was a piece of paper ... we have turned the entire dialogue around ... don't press so hard on debating style when we control the entire message of the debates

 

[Edward]

He's NOT going to change his answers on Foreign Policy.

It's about the delivery, not the answer.

 

[Orgoonian]

"But he obviously has not done much or any debate prep on these questions despite the fact he knows they are coming and that this is the only thing holding back many potential supporters. "

My God we've been at this for four years and does it dawn upon anyone that's exactly what he truthfully believes?

Debate coach, speech coach, blah, blah blah. How many times have we heard this? At this point I've come to realization that RP doesn't particularly care nor allows himself to be coached on anything, otherwise he would lot smoother in his presentation. He's going to tell it the way he sees it and if you don't like it, you don't vote for him. And many don't. But many do because he tells like it is.

Don't talk me about slick politicians when you are all supporting perhaps then most unpolitical major party candidate since Eugene McCarthy (My Lord what would he say about debates like this?) for those very reasons. At least RP never had a brain fart so bad he couldn't remember five cabinet departments or spoke Mandarin or bet someone $10,000 from of his personal bank account. For not being polished, he sure has never made gaffes like that.

I think you'd all save yourself a lot of energy and piece you just accept it. No amount of banging the keyboard or yelling at the TV is going to change things. If hasn't after this long, it's not going to now.

Well said sir!

PS,
Ducks rule!

 

[tbone717]

Paul is certainly not the best debater. He isn't a showman. But maybe that can be a selling point. If you look at the others up there, they are all the typical slick politician. I honestly believe that people are starting to realize that these slick politicians are the ones that keep screwing things up for us. That maybe it is time for someone who may not be so sharp on the debate stage, but that honestly believes in what he says, and speaks from the heart. Paul is what he is, and instead of hoping thing will change take what we have and turn it into a positive and a selling point.

 

[Tinnuhana]

I couldn't watch the debate and half of you have me scared to watch the RP highlights, now. But mowt of the other debates, I finally got the courage" to watch and they seemed fairly good. Forget the crowd bias. Remember how much that bias back in 2007 got us fired up? We go to the evangelical and catholic blogs and talk about Ron getting boos for talking about the golden rule. Actually, almost every religion has that rule.Check out Liberty Defined. I think he has a chapter where he lists them, all the way to Zoroastrianisn. Take what this debate is and use it. The next one will be better.

 

[Inkblots]

Local news just said Newt and Romney and Perry did good at the debate. Ron Paul was heavily booed. That's all.

Aw, phooey. We don't want that to be the take-away.

 

[steph3n]

He turned a VERY simple question about the special operation in Pakistan to get Bin Laden into a confused ramble about Pakistan's sovereignty and not bombing people over there and the golden rule, what on Earth did that have to do with the question?

Everything, if you can't see it, you are simply trolling.

By barging in on other nations land we put ourselves as risk for the same measures taken against us, and don't deny it will happen, it will, just not happened yet.

 

[dbill27]

The Gop lost the general election tonight unless Ron wins.

 

[Kevin Smyth]

He's NOT going to change his answers on Foreign Policy.

Then he's not going to win.

 

[dmitchell]

I think you'd all save yourself a lot of energy and piece you just accept it. No amount of banging the keyboard or yelling at the TV is going to change things. If hasn't after this long, it's not going to now.

I happen to think that some professional debate coaching would do him a world of good, but I strongly agree with what you wrote there. Calm down, guys. Realistically, the best we can hope for from the Paul campaign is that he turns more people on to libertarianism than he turns off. I think he is doing that, so I'm satisfied.