SC Debate - FNC (1/16/12) 9pm ET - Official Thread

Audience members are all members of the media and GOP insiders. I saw at least 7 faces I recognize. No wonder they all cheer for war and boo Ron Paul. It's sad though because the power of a cheering or booing audience has powerful psychological effects. It's why comedy sitcoms had laugh tracks, so people would find shows funny when they really weren't. For an average dumb group minded American watching that knows nothing about politics, they listen for cheers and boos to decide what issue in the debate is right or wrong.

I'm sure Paul recognized faces, too. Can you imagine trying to have any kind of intelligent debate in that environment? I swear I don't know how he has done this for so long. He's trying to save their ignorant a**es from economic collapse and tyranny and they treat him like that while cheering on their own slavery. I'm not sure I'd have the fortitude to do what he has done, he deserves the utmost respect. We should all thank him for not walking off the stage and saying "Screw this, I don't need it, enjoy the hell that is coming down the pike because you were too stupid to listen to or vote for me, I'm going home."

That was like the Morton Downy, Jr. crowd of the 80's.
 
Every debate Ron gets asked about Osama and Pakistan. It is long past time he had a serious set of talking points. This is the second time Bret Bair said his views are to the left of Obama and he has no reply. He looks horrible.

Ron, you're not getting any more money out of me. A little big of practice and you could knock that question out of the park, but instead you ramble on like you're dazed and confused. It is a very simple question.
 
He got hammered on the Bin Laden issue, when Gingrich came back at Paul that Pakistan had to have known Bin Laden was there hit hard and made Paul look naive. I'm not saying he is at all but thats how it looked. For me I don't believe the whole Bin Laden kill story myself along with other war on terror storys but i digress. I really wish we had a younger Ron Paul up there to defend himself.
 
Yup. People are simpletons. That went over the head of most people and the take away is that Ron is weak on the 2nd Amendment, which is the furthest thing from the truth.

Exactly. Go up to the average Republican voter in South Carolina (or anywhere) and mention tort law and ask them where it should be dictated. They will give you the blankest stare.
 
Ron's biggest problem is that he grew up when Americans were smart. He doesn't understand he has to give simple answers in these times. Back in his prime most people would know what tort law is. Today, most people think its about turtles.
 
Every debate Ron gets asked about Osama and Pakistan. It is long past time he had a serious set of talking points. This is the second time Bret Bair said his views are to the left of Obama and he has no reply. He looks horrible.

Ron, you're not getting any more money out of me. A little big of practice and you could knock that question out of the park, but instead you ramble on like you're dazed and confused. It is a very simple question.

Bull. He gave the same reply he ALWAYS gives.
 
Ron's biggest problem is that he grew up when Americans were smart. He doesn't understand he has to give simple answers in these times. Back in his prime most people would know what tort law is. Today, most people think its about turtles.

Well, yeah...And PLUS he knows that HIS supporters are smarter than average.
 
Faux Snooze--because if you're a viewer you are definitely asleep.
 
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"But he obviously has not done much or any debate prep on these questions despite the fact he knows they are coming and that this is the only thing holding back many potential supporters. "

My God we've been at this for four years and does it dawn upon anyone that's exactly what he truthfully believes?

Debate coach, speech coach, blah, blah blah. How many times have we heard this? At this point I've come to realization that RP doesn't particularly care nor allows himself to be coached on anything, otherwise he would lot smoother in his presentation. He's going to tell it the way he sees it and if you don't like it, you don't vote for him. And many don't. But many do because he tells like it is.

Don't talk me about slick politicians or better presentation when you are all supporting perhaps then most unpolitical major party candidate since Eugene McCarthy (My Lord what would he say about debates like this?) for those very reasons. At least RP never had a brain fart so bad he couldn't remember five cabinet departments or spoke Mandarin or bet someone $10,000 from of his personal bank account. For not being polished, he sure has never made gaffes like that.

I think you'd all save yourself a lot of energy and piece of mind if you just accept it. No amount of banging the keyboard or yelling at the TV is going to change things. If it hasn't after this long, it's not going to now.
 
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Yup. People are simpletons. That went over the head of most people and the take away is that Ron is weak on the 2nd Amendment, which is the furthest thing from the truth.
I don't know that they did I'd hope they didn't. RP should have called the NRA a joke then proceeded to say all gun laws should be repealed!! that would have solved the issue
 
Every debate Ron gets asked about Osama and Pakistan. It is long past time he had a serious set of talking points. This is the second time Bret Bair said his views are to the left of Obama and he has no reply. He looks horrible.

Ron, you're not getting any more money out of me. A little big of practice and you could knock that question out of the park, but instead you ramble on like you're dazed and confused. It is a very simple question.


He did have a great set of talking points, it's too bad that you and the rest of the Republican idiots are too stupid to understand it.

I'm sorry, I know not to bash other forum members, but I can't tolerate arm chair debaters. Ron did a much better job than you will ever do.
 
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Will any Ron Paul Supporter even think of voting for a Republican Nominee if it is not Ron Paul after tonight's debate????

All four of the other Candidate's Tonight truly showed their Neo-Con War Happy Foreign Policy.

I honestly can see a mass exodus of Ron Paul Supporters in August, from the Republican Party to the Libertarian Party, if our Champion Loses the Nomination.

I could not possibly, I mean never, vote for Romney, Gingrich, Santorum or Perry, especially after tonight's performance.
 
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