Saylorsburg PA, 3 DEAD - Town Hall Meeting

[osan]

Personally, if I knew I were to die, I'd be concerned with my legacy and try to turn my death into a positive impact for others.

Maybe. You don't really know because you are not staring down the barrels of that particular goose gun.

Years of stress and fading hope for anything better will put people into a place they did not grow up as children wishing to go. Not that many people grow up wanting to be prostitutes and IV drug users, yet plenty end up that way.

Until you walk a mile or fifty in his shoes I might respectfully recommend you refrain from being too certain about what you would do were you to find yourself in his size 10s.

 

[tod evans]

Perhaps we need more gun laws. What do you all say?

People compensated with my tax-dollars do not have my permission to bring weapons to bare against the citizenry for any reason.

I say repeal all laws and ordinances that permit government employees to bare or brandish personal weapons while performing duties for the government within the US borders, and immediately sell all state owned weapons to private citizens.

 

[Pericles]

It drove the growing Patriot Movement underground for years. Leaders were hunted and killed.
The FBI and ATF increased their power and resources. Militias were infiltrated and compromised nationwide.
Publicly slandered and became socially unacceptable.

McVeigh (a soldier and "true believer") was the fall guy and the investigation ended.
The SPLC is now a defacto government agency

I don't see how it was anything but a win for authoritarians.

I certainly have to agree with that.

 

[Pericles]

Note how almost cleverly the author puts onus on the shooter for the "feud". The township didn't have a feud with him, but he with them. No doubt the characterization from the other standpoint would have run along the line of the township discharging its duties or even obligations to "the people". The rot is now so hopelessly ingrained in these people's minds I do not believe they have the awareness required to qualify their words as having been crafted with malicious intent. These poor dumb bastards just have no clue. In their minds, government == right and anyone in disagreement == feuding with government.




See what I mean? The setup to convict without ever questioning the actions of "the state" is already well under weigh. They will crucify this guy (he may even deserve it) but not word one will ever be raised about what they did to prompt his actions. The tacit message and assumption there is that the state is never wrong, that the local boards always act correctly and righteously by definition, which may actually be the worst of it.




Were they? Who were these people? Were they on this board or just attendees?



Silly me for thinking a man needs no permit to dispose of his property as he sees fit. Yet most will view him as evil because he failed to get permission from people who hold no inherent authority to give or withhold such. How lost are the vast oceans of humanity, those waters so hopelessly polluted with poisons deadly and eternal.

Civil war may be the only solution. Imagine what that REALLY means - what it says about the pathetic and wretched state into which the people of this land have fallen. I don't think I can quite wrap my head completely around it.

Perhaps we need more gun laws. What do you all say?

I'd say you summed up the situation very well. If Newell had been killed, this could have been wrapped up in one neat little package and filed away.

 

[asurfaholic]

I let this one simmer in my head for a couple days.

I am not sure how I felt about his tactics, there could have been little children in there. That said, I guess he planned to knock the township off where it hurt, right in the council meeting, and this may have been his only real option. Im feeling like giving him a kudos for standing up for his rights. Sounds like the township drove him to this, so they are really to blame for this.

 

[osan]

IIf Newell had been killed...

The day isn't over. Nothing surprises me anymore.

 

[Pericles]

The day isn't over. Nothing surprises me anymore.

On "suicide" watch, no doubt.

 

[osan]

No it didn't.
and that was a government Op from start to finish that only consolidated their power.

Not even remotely related.

As tin-hat as it sounds, I believe you are dead on the money. Opinion was swinging against these rotten organizations, particularly in the wake of Ruby Ridge and Waco. They needed a kicker-dose of compliance generating action and they got it. All of a sudden they were the ones to which the nation turned its terror-filled eyes. Joe Mean is perfectly faithful in his eternal stupidity. Theye know it. Theye bank on it. It works every time no matter how many times the same predictable trick is pulled. Joe Mean is despicable - hate-worthy even. His will to imbecility almost rightly renders him fair game for men who choose to use their brains properly. On the frabjous day, the day of harvesting, Joey Mean will have no tear of mine as he and his progeny are consumed in the flames of reckoning. Maybe I am wrong for feeling this way, but I will not alter my position without proper and sufficient cause. As of this writing, I see no such cause anywhere in the observable or imaginable universes.

 

[osan]

On "suicide" watch, no doubt.

And when they find him hanging from a knotted sheet we will be astonished to find that the surveillance cameras mysteriously malfunctioned. The dead man tells no tale. Move along - nothing to see here.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I passed out a gazillion rep points in this thread.

Glad to see that so many still have their heads screwed on straight.

Already mentioned but:

Carl Drega.

That is all.

 

[Scrapmo]

"Jeremy spoke in class today..."

 

[Anti Federalist]

So, which is it:

Anti government white radicals?

Communists?

Black panthers?

Jihadists?

Or could it possibly be that people across all racial and political lines, are sick and tired of being bullied, pushed around, ordered about, raided, beaten, jailed and killed by cops that have declared a "War on Us"?