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Sarah Palin Resigns
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So she did the job her handlers got her elected for, ran interference in the national campaign, and now they tell her to quit before she causes any serious damage.
This is the lady whose foreign policy experience was titular head of the national guard and being next door to Russia.
This is the lady whose foreign policy experience was titular head of the national guard and being next door to Russia.
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You don't need to be an intellectual elitist to bring troops home, float gold and silver, write an executive order to unenforce the patriot act, abolish the Federal Reserve and the income tax, and veto unbalanced budgets. The country would be a lot better off with a bunch of hockey moms in elected office.
"So she did the job her handlers got her elected for, ran interference in the national campaign, and now they tell her to quit before she causes any serious damage."
PaulaGem, sorry, maybe its just me...
Who are her handlers and what job did they get her elected for? Since she's only been elected governor of Alaska, I assume you mean some group of handlers got her elected Governor and she did the job, but that doesn't line up with "running interference in the national campaign" - she did campaign - what do you mean "running interference". Who has told her to quit and what damage is she about to cause?
I'm certain this makes sense to you, but as written, I can't make sense of it. Disjointed, vague, a bit wacko - all in all a kind of a *Katic Couric* comment I guess.
Any comment on the other two videos? Seems to me she's pretty sharp on subjects she up on. I would say she deports herself with an executive demeanour and appears quite competent.
There's a lot of issues on which I suspect I wouldn't agree with Palin, but on balance I think shes a smart woman with some guts and I don't think she's in anyone's pocket.
PaulaGem, sorry, maybe its just me...
Who are her handlers and what job did they get her elected for? Since she's only been elected governor of Alaska, I assume you mean some group of handlers got her elected Governor and she did the job, but that doesn't line up with "running interference in the national campaign" - she did campaign - what do you mean "running interference". Who has told her to quit and what damage is she about to cause?
I'm certain this makes sense to you, but as written, I can't make sense of it. Disjointed, vague, a bit wacko - all in all a kind of a *Katic Couric* comment I guess.
Any comment on the other two videos? Seems to me she's pretty sharp on subjects she up on. I would say she deports herself with an executive demeanour and appears quite competent.
There's a lot of issues on which I suspect I wouldn't agree with Palin, but on balance I think shes a smart woman with some guts and I don't think she's in anyone's pocket.
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I'd have to say the Vegas odds on Sarah Palin accomplishing anything you just said to be 12,000,000,000,000 to 1.
Sorry Ana. Palin is a neo-con.
http://www.ontheissues.org/sarah_Palin.htm
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Don't think so. Going along for the ride with the McSame campaign is not sufficient proof for me. They took her on because she was a woman and outside the beltway and needed some votes.
Maybe she just paid a price for the national exposure, so that she could turn it to good at some point. I think the jury is out on her. Why don't we just wait and see where she ends up in 12 to 18 months?
She is a big government whore that pretends to be for limited government, just like Bush, Romney, McCain etc.
http://www.slate.com/id/2199357/
"The woman who made this complaint about big government taking your money is the governor of Alaska. Please take a moment to look at this U.S. Census chart showing federal-government expenditures, per capita, in the 50 states. You will observe that Alaska receives about $14,000 per citizen from the federal government. That's more than any other state, and a good $4,000 more than every other state except Virginia, Maryland, New Mexico, and North Dakota. The chart is from the Census Bureau's Consolidated Federal Funds Report for Fiscal Year 2005. I skipped over the 2006 report, the most recent one available, because Hurricane Katrina put Louisiana and Mississippi ahead of Alaska that year. But that's an anomaly. Alaska held the per-capita record for sucking on the federal teat in 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, and 2000. According to the nonprofit Tax Foundation, Alaska gets back $1.84 for every dollar it pays into the U.S. Treasury—even though Alaska enjoys a higher per-capita income than 34 of the 50 states. This is a state that preaches right-wing libertarianism while it practices middle-class socialism.
Palin has not bucked this venerable tradition. It's been widely reported that even though Palin came out against the federally funded, $223 million "bridge to nowhere," a wasteful Alaska earmark (and one she'd supported before it created an uproar in Congress), Alaska ended up receiving the same amount of federal money as transportation funds to be spent at the state's own discretion. When Palin was mayor of Wasilla, she hired the former chief of staff to Sen. Ted Stevens, the recently indicted dean of the Alaska congressional delegation, to lobby for the town (pop. 6,700)—which, as a result, wound up receiving nearly $27 million in federal earmarks over four years. As governor, Palin just this past February sent Stevens a memo outlining $200 million in new funding requests. Granted, Palin enjoys inexplicably warm relations with the secessionist Alaska Independence Party, whose founder's anti-Americanism, Rosa Brooks points out in the Los Angeles Times, puts Rev. Jeremiah Wright in the shade. ("The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government," he told an interviewer in 1991—a year when Republicans controlled the White House and U.S. troops went into battle to free Kuwait from Iraqi occupation.) But there's little real danger that Alaska would ever choose to secede from the Lower 48. Independence would cost it too much in lost federal revenue."
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Ummmm???? Did you even look at the link?
I was referring to the oil & gas interests and the "achievement" just prior to that post, sorry.
Nbhadja -
I'm not at all surprised that the federal government spends more per capita in Alaska than any other state as Alaska has the lowest population density by far of any of the states - about 1/5th that of the next in line.
So if Mr. Noah had analysed government expenditure per square mile then by Mr. Noah's logic, Alaska is the most frugal state in the Union...go figure.
You actually took slate at face value?
I'm not at all surprised that the federal government spends more per capita in Alaska than any other state as Alaska has the lowest population density by far of any of the states - about 1/5th that of the next in line.
So if Mr. Noah had analysed government expenditure per square mile then by Mr. Noah's logic, Alaska is the most frugal state in the Union...go figure.
You actually took slate at face value?
Supporting a 223 million dollar bridge is liberal. BEGGING for and taking 27 million dollars in federal money for a small town is liberal.
Palin is liberal. All of the evidence shows that as Mayor and Governor she was a liberal.
Do you actually think McCain, a liberal, would have a libertarian as his VP pick?? Come on, there is no chance in hell for that.
They chose Palin to try and fool libertarians like Ron Paul supporters. Sadly it worked for a month or so.
She was begging for money from the stimulus bills as well.
"Alaska and other states need to be treated fairly,” Governor Palin said. “Much of the stimulus plan we've seen focuses on spending for government programs that would be a burden on states to continue funding, and doesn't focus enough on spending that actually does put people back to work and stimulate the economy. Working with our D.C. staff, I took advantage of the opportunity to speak with Democrats and Republicans to voice my concerns. I appreciate their time and assistance in paying attention to our state."
"and doesn't focus enough on spending that actually does put people back to work and stimulate the economy"
So she wants the government to create jobs and wants a printing press to save an economy?? cough...SOCIALIST...cough
"Alaska and other states need to be treated fairly,” Governor Palin said. “Much of the stimulus plan we've seen focuses on spending for government programs that would be a burden on states to continue funding, and doesn't focus enough on spending that actually does put people back to work and stimulate the economy. Working with our D.C. staff, I took advantage of the opportunity to speak with Democrats and Republicans to voice my concerns. I appreciate their time and assistance in paying attention to our state."
"and doesn't focus enough on spending that actually does put people back to work and stimulate the economy"
So she wants the government to create jobs and wants a printing press to save an economy?? cough...SOCIALIST...cough
Nbhadja - Take quotes out of context much?
"She was begging for money from the stimulus bills as well." really where?
I think SC proves you can't refuse a federal stimulus check, so if your getting one, wouldn't you try to protect the interests of your state?
Here's what you misquoted Nbhadja - http://gov.state.ak.us/archive.php?id=1618&type=1 - it seems ok to me when read in context.
Governor Expresses Concerns on Economic Stimulus While in D.C.
February 1, 2009, Juneau, Alaska - Governor Sarah Palin this weekend met with business, economic and political leaders in the nation’s capital to discuss problems she sees for Alaska with the pending economic stimulus package in Congress.
"Alaska and other states need to be treated fairly,” Governor Palin said. “Much of the stimulus plan we've seen focuses on spending for government programs that would be a burden on states to continue funding, and doesn't focus enough on spending that actually does put people back to work and stimulate the economy. Working with our D.C. staff, I took advantage of the opportunity to speak with Democrats and Republicans to voice my concerns. I appreciate their time and assistance in paying attention to our state."
Governor Palin discussed troubling elements in the stimulus package including provisions that punish Alaska for forward-funding education, the mass transit funding formula that will limit Alaska opportunities but will pour money into other states, and the "shovel-ready" criteria for projects that northern climates might not be able to accommodate consistently due to the shortened construction season.
The governor continues to express concerns first identified in a Jan. 7 letter to the Alaska congressional delegation about the overall level of spending and the hugely increased deficit our nation is growing. Under the legislation, the U.S. would continue sending money to OPEC nations even as it continues to borrow and miss opportunities to develop domestic supplies of energy.
"Worst of all, the stimulus package rewards states for not planning when it comes to prioritizing for things like education, as Alaska has planned ahead by forward-funding 21 percent of our General Fund dollars for this very important priority,” said Palin. “It appears only those states that did not plan ahead with education will benefit. States like Alaska should not be punished for being responsible; yet that's what the plan means for Alaska right now.”
The governor has asked the nation’s leaders to look at these issues to ensure fairness in the stimulus package and that the package does not harm the long-term fiscal health of the nation. Contrary to some news reports, she looks forward to continuing to work with Alaska’s congressional delegation to accomplish the state’s goals.
http://gov.state.ak.us/archive.php?id=1618&type=1
"She was begging for money from the stimulus bills as well." really where?
I think SC proves you can't refuse a federal stimulus check, so if your getting one, wouldn't you try to protect the interests of your state?
Here's what you misquoted Nbhadja - http://gov.state.ak.us/archive.php?id=1618&type=1 - it seems ok to me when read in context.
Governor Expresses Concerns on Economic Stimulus While in D.C.
February 1, 2009, Juneau, Alaska - Governor Sarah Palin this weekend met with business, economic and political leaders in the nation’s capital to discuss problems she sees for Alaska with the pending economic stimulus package in Congress.
"Alaska and other states need to be treated fairly,” Governor Palin said. “Much of the stimulus plan we've seen focuses on spending for government programs that would be a burden on states to continue funding, and doesn't focus enough on spending that actually does put people back to work and stimulate the economy. Working with our D.C. staff, I took advantage of the opportunity to speak with Democrats and Republicans to voice my concerns. I appreciate their time and assistance in paying attention to our state."
Governor Palin discussed troubling elements in the stimulus package including provisions that punish Alaska for forward-funding education, the mass transit funding formula that will limit Alaska opportunities but will pour money into other states, and the "shovel-ready" criteria for projects that northern climates might not be able to accommodate consistently due to the shortened construction season.
The governor continues to express concerns first identified in a Jan. 7 letter to the Alaska congressional delegation about the overall level of spending and the hugely increased deficit our nation is growing. Under the legislation, the U.S. would continue sending money to OPEC nations even as it continues to borrow and miss opportunities to develop domestic supplies of energy.
"Worst of all, the stimulus package rewards states for not planning when it comes to prioritizing for things like education, as Alaska has planned ahead by forward-funding 21 percent of our General Fund dollars for this very important priority,” said Palin. “It appears only those states that did not plan ahead with education will benefit. States like Alaska should not be punished for being responsible; yet that's what the plan means for Alaska right now.”
The governor has asked the nation’s leaders to look at these issues to ensure fairness in the stimulus package and that the package does not harm the long-term fiscal health of the nation. Contrary to some news reports, she looks forward to continuing to work with Alaska’s congressional delegation to accomplish the state’s goals.
http://gov.state.ak.us/archive.php?id=1618&type=1
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1. "and doesn't focus enough on spending that actually does put people back to work and stimulate the economy"
Her saying that proves she is a Keynesian neocon. The government can NEVER create jobs. Her saying that goes against everything our movement stands for.
2. She would not be opposed to a war with Russia.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/12/MNSA12SBUQ.DTL
3. You can reject the federal stimulus money if you choose to do so.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/29/sarah-palin-to-accept-mos_n_192802.html
She accepted majority of it.
4. Her record as governor and mayor clearly indicate that she supports big government.
5. Palin said the iraqi war was "gods will"
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2008/09/02/sarah-palin-iraq-war-gods-plan/
And people attacked Ron Paul using stupid ideas they knew nothing about.
I am attacking Palin with facts and by what she says she supports (war with iraq, war with russia).
To defend Palin as a liberty lover while all the evidence indicates that she is a war hungry neocon is crazy.
"I am attacking Palin with facts and by what she says she supports (war with iraq, war with russia)."
No Nbhada - you are not. You are misrepresenting, and misquoting - you are doing exactly what others did to Ron Paul - and *that* is against everything our movement stands for.
Did you even read your own links? Your representations are out of context and are laughable. You clain Palin said the Iraqi war was "gods will" - care to bet on it?
No Nbhada - you are not. You are misrepresenting, and misquoting - you are doing exactly what others did to Ron Paul - and *that* is against everything our movement stands for.
Did you even read your own links? Your representations are out of context and are laughable. You clain Palin said the Iraqi war was "gods will" - care to bet on it?
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"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."
How is it the he was taking that out of context? I watched the video and yes she did say it just after talking about how her son was going to Iraq.
Are you also saying Bush didn't think that launching the wars against Afghan and Iraq was God's will?
http://www.counterpunch.org/hamilton05222009.html
It's sort of double speak - those that want to hear that it's "God's will" will interpret it that way. "Pray.... that our leaders.... are sending out on a task that is from God.
Now, if we weren't sure that it's a task from God, what justification do we have? None, of course.
One way of interpreting what she is saying saying is "We've done it, we're committed, now we need to pray that it was the right thing and that God will come up with a plan now that we're in there."
Either way - it's a "God on our side" argument.
Either way - it's ambiguous double speak and as clear as mud. This is her usual style.
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