Sanford admits to affair

[pinkmandy]

I don't think Sanford is an idiot. Which is what he would be if he ran off for a week w/out telling anyone where he was going just to sleep w/a woman. Not even his staff. A staff that could easily send him off to a meeting, a conference, ANYTHING. For some reason he couldn't trust his own staff? If he was having an affair then you can bet they knew about it prior to his trip and have probably arranged other meetings for him.

No, he was hiding from everyone intentionally and the MSM took notice and made this a story. He didn't want to be found. I just can't believe he committed political suicide, knowingly, to go spend a week w/a woman when he could have done that w/out raising any suspicion whatsoever. The events portrayed don't make sense for a man aspiring to be President. He's smarter than that.

 

[RoyalShock]

dannno, you obviously don't understand the biblical view of sex/marriage.

One, the wife holding out may be a sin, but it isn't adultery.

Two, one spouse cheating does not give the other license to cheat. As long as one is in a God-ordained marriage, they are still accountable to God for their behavior. Either re-commit to your repentant spouse, or end the marriage (adultery being the only biblical "out").

Three, sex is much, much more than a physical act. It is an expression of love, intimacy and devotion. No self-respecting Christian wife would endorse her husband getting some on the side, regardless of the circumstances.

On to the political side . . .

If a man cannot withstand the temptation of hedonistic pleasure of a marital affair, how can he be trusted to withtstand the temptation of corruption that comes from being in a position of power?

It is all about character. And while Sanford has perhaps truly repented and attempting to restore his relationship with God and his wife, one would have to be cautious in entrusting power to him in the future.

 

[JoshLowry]

too bad nobody's ever heard of him.(johnson)

please remember, nobody had ever heard of ron paul either. Now he's a superstar.

Great philosophical leaders aren't born; they're made.

+1776

 

[pacelli]

I don't think Sanford is an idiot. Which is what he would be if he ran off for a week w/out telling anyone where he was going just to sleep w/a woman. Not even his staff. A staff that could easily send him off to a meeting, a conference, ANYTHING. For some reason he couldn't trust his own staff? If he was having an affair then you can bet they knew about it prior to his trip and have probably arranged other meetings for him.

No, he was hiding from everyone intentionally and the MSM took notice and made this a story. He didn't want to be found. I just can't believe he committed political suicide, knowingly, to go spend a week w/a woman when he could have done that w/out raising any suspicion whatsoever. The events portrayed don't make sense for a man aspiring to be President. He's smarter than that.

If what you are implying is true, then WHY did the MSM take notice NOW? Why did they sit on it for so long? He said his wife knew about it for 5 months, and he was in contact with the person for 8 years.

I'm not asking for a youtube or a wiki (and won't in any response to this issue), but rather what do you think is really going on here?

 

[Deborah K]

I don't think Sanford is an idiot. Which is what he would be if he ran off for a week w/out telling anyone where he was going just to sleep w/a woman. Not even his staff. A staff that could easily send him off to a meeting, a conference, ANYTHING. For some reason he couldn't trust his own staff? If he was having an affair then you can bet they knew about it prior to his trip and have probably arranged other meetings for him.

No, he was hiding from everyone intentionally and the MSM took notice and made this a story. He didn't want to be found. I just can't believe he committed political suicide, knowingly, to go spend a week w/a woman when he could have done that w/out raising any suspicion whatsoever. The events portrayed don't make sense for a man aspiring to be President. He's smarter than that.

Where are you going with this? You obviously think there is more to this than meets the eye. I'm interested. Bring this theory to its logical conclusion, if you would please.

 

[Carole]

Yes!!

 

[RoyalShock]

I didn't see the PC, so maybe he addressed this. If not, my take on why he disappeared is that the man was preparing to go public with something very personal, embarassing to himself and family and humiliating for someone trying to live a godly life. He probably needed some time to reflect and summon the courage to reveal this to the world. Isolation can be a great tool for stripping away the peripheral things in life and dealing with the core issue.

It's not always a conspiracy.

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

This sucks. I seriously think he was our only true hope of turning the GOP into a small gov't party - even if he isn't a libertarian. Sad day for the liberty movement to take the GOP in the right direction

 

[haaaylee]

No, she could have broken her vows to him as well. When a woman holds out, I believe she is breaking her vows. That's just my male opinion that most women can't comprehend, but.. ya.. if you wanna talk about vows let's take it from both sides.

i'm pretty sure marriage is about love not sex. otherwise we could just all go around banging each other all day.


unless you want governement benefits, then get married.

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

lol wow

It's just an affair and the *only* person who deserves to know, his wife, knew about it 5 months ago, what's the big deal?

Max is a radical clown

 

[angelatc]

Please remember, nobody had ever heard of Ron Paul either. Now he's a superstar.

Great philosophical leaders aren't born; they're made.

Philosophy is important, but we lost the election. I was hoping for a Sanford/Johnson ticket.

Mitt Romney is happy dancing today.

 

[pinkmandy]

Where are you going with this? You obviously think there is more to this than meets the eye. I'm interested. Bring this theory to its logical conclusion, if you would please.

I'm wondering if he was doing something to subvert some plans of TPTB. Perhaps he really was angry over being forced to take stimulus money? He has been talking a lot about states rights, he was forced to take the stimulus money after fighting hard against it and then he tried to pay down debt w/it and lost again. Maybe that was all a show or maybe the man realized everything that has been happening and thought he could do something to make a difference?

Imo, the MSM are nothing more than propaganda tools and there's almost always more than meets the eye. This man disappeared. Right after the legislature ended the session. After a lot of vicious infighting. Don't we always wish *someone* would just make a stand? Expose what is going on? Maybe he was trying to do just that- who knows where he was, what he was doing, who he was meeting with (or maybe it was just an affair). I just can't fathom him creating this circus so he could leave his kids on Father's Day weekend to go sleep w/a woman when he could have done that at anytime. Like next week he could have planned a trip with no hoopla at all. This doesn't make sense. He's smart. He knew he was going to be the center of attention when he secretly left without notifying his staff or the Lt Gov. Whatever it was, it had to be worth it personally because he had to know he was possibly sacrificing his political future. I just don't buy this was over a woman. I just don't think he's stupid enough to have handled an affair this way.

I think this is political. Whatever it is. I think we'll see more 'leaks' coming out in the days and weeks to come, though.

 

[puppetmaster]

I don't think Sanford is an idiot. Which is what he would be if he ran off for a week w/out telling anyone where he was going just to sleep w/a woman. Not even his staff. A staff that could easily send him off to a meeting, a conference, ANYTHING. For some reason he couldn't trust his own staff? If he was having an affair then you can bet they knew about it prior to his trip and have probably arranged other meetings for him.

No, he was hiding from everyone intentionally and the MSM took notice and made this a story. He didn't want to be found. I just can't believe he committed political suicide, knowingly, to go spend a week w/a woman when he could have done that w/out raising any suspicion whatsoever. The events portrayed don't make sense for a man aspiring to be President. He's smarter than that.

Well by your name I am assuming you are a female.

You must understand a basic instinct for us guys will dominate our character. That instinct is a very strong need to have sex with different, beautiful women. It is never far from our thoughts and WILL make us do stupid things. Our natural animal instincts are never far from the surface...and neither are yours, but yours are very different instincts.
The point is that smart people have just as many instinctual desires as stupid people they just may be able to hide them better.

Now if you run over to your husband/boyfriend and ask him if what this guy "puppetmaster" says is true....what do you expect him to say.

Honey you only want me right....? You never think of sex with other girls right?

 

[TGGRV]

The bottom line, who cares? From what I read, at least he frigging admitted it, unlike Bill Clit-on. It's hilarious that people give a shit about a guy's marriage and sex life when they want to choose him to be a president. I don't really care. He is accountable for cheating in front of his wife, not mine.

 

[Carole]

I don't see what a personal failing has to do with his political activities. He admitted it. It's between him and his wife.

Excuse me, but look at all the lies "so far" revealed around this one weekend away.

Character DOES matter--above all else. Lack of character leaves one vulnerable to all sorts of unpleasant things. Like extortion and bribery for example. It is like a Pandora's box-once opened. One cannot put toothpaste back into a tube as has been said.

His career is finished!!! And I do not care about him but his wife and children will now be embarrassed in front of the cameras. There MAY be even worse/more to this, but so far it is a disaster.

I remember when Dr. Paul was in South Carolina for debates during primaries and Sanford flatly backed away from supporting him. Sanford also said "then" that he had a lot on his plate and even mentioned having time for his family.

He attended Bilderberg meeting also.

Sorry, but I think there is a lot more to this story and eventually it will come out, but I could never support this person politically. I hope he gets his life straightened out for the sake of his family.

Trust, once lost, is difficult to regain.

 

[pinkmandy]

Well by your name I am assuming you are a female.

You must understand a basic instinct for us guys will dominate our character. That instinct is a very strong need to have sex with different, beautiful women. It is never far from our thoughts and WILL make us do stupid things. Our natural animal instincts are never far from the surface...and neither are yours, but yours are very different instincts.
The point is that smart people have just as many instinctual desires as stupid people they just may be able to hide them better.

Now if you run over to your husband/boyfriend and ask him if what this guy "puppetmaster" says is true....what do you expect him to say.

Honey you only want me right....? You never think of sex with other girls right?

No doubt! I recognize this. It's the way this happened that intrigues me. If he has been having an affair, how has he been meeting this woman? Probably just like any other? Business Trips. Conferences. Whatever. Now, why on earth would he not do the same again? The man KNOWS that if he 'disappears' for many days, as Governor, that people will be looking for him. Now why would he do that? Why would he not tell his 'trusted' staff where he was going? Or have someone he trusts set up a trip for him? A smart man having an affair would know how to meet his lover w/out raising too many questions. Why disappear like that? Who was he hiding from? More than his wife, that's for sure. And that leads me to wonder what he was doing? Really? How do we know we are hearing the truth? Why was MSM in such an uproar from the get go? Because they are truly investigative journalists? *lol* Who do they work for? How do we know the man isn't being blackmailed?

 

[LibertyEagle]

I agree with you, Carole, but I also think that something else is up here.

 

[angelatc]

Well by your name I am assuming you are a female.

You must understand a basic instinct for us guys will dominate our character. That instinct is a very strong need to have sex with different, beautiful women. It is never far from our thoughts and WILL make us do stupid things. Our natural animal instincts are never far from the surface...and neither are yours, but yours are very different instincts.

The point is that smart people have just as many instinctual desires as stupid people they just may be able to hide them better.

Now if you run over to your husband/boyfriend and ask him if what this guy "puppetmaster" says is true....what do you expect him to say.

In other words, you're too weak to control yourself, but it isn't really your fault.

Now if you run over to your wife/gf and ask her if what this guy "puppetmaster" says is true....what do you expect her to say?

 

[moostraks]

I don't think Sanford is an idiot. Which is what he would be if he ran off for a week w/out telling anyone where he was going just to sleep w/a woman. Not even his staff. A staff that could easily send him off to a meeting, a conference, ANYTHING. For some reason he couldn't trust his own staff? If he was having an affair then you can bet they knew about it prior to his trip and have probably arranged other meetings for him.

No, he was hiding from everyone intentionally and the MSM took notice and made this a story. He didn't want to be found. I just can't believe he committed political suicide, knowingly, to go spend a week w/a woman when he could have done that w/out raising any suspicion whatsoever. The events portrayed don't make sense for a man aspiring to be President. He's smarter than that.

I side with you on the fact that this is suspicious from the angle of disappearing without informing anyone when he easily could have covered his tracks. Having lived with a cheater who was fairly good at it, this guy had numerous ways to cover his tracks and the whole thing was just plain hokey...Also I agree, his staff would have an inkling. I believe they would not have played into the whole media hype unless they were genuinely worried as it is their livelihood as well now that he's discredited.(They would also have to be extremely inept along with Sanford.And that smacks of too much stupidity,imo)

If you were truly going to have a fling, especially being over 20, you will make sure you have bases covered in case anyone should question your whereabouts. Especially if you have already confessed to an affair and were in deep with your s.o.

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

Philosophy is important, but we lost the election. I was hoping for a Sanford/Johnson ticket.

Mitt Romney is happy dancing today.

I agree 100%.

I'd also like to remind you all that Dr. Paul couldn't even get significant numbers in the Republican primaries. We did a great job at name recognition, but he wasn't truly established in the minds of everyday Americans. Sanford was and he blew it - big time. Now we're stuck with a Romney v. Jindal showdown in the GOP