Sanctions Force India to Pay in Gold for Iran Oil, China May Follow 1/24/12

This video explains the idea floating around that war with Iran is about saving the petrodollar, as was Iraq. Every Paulite should be aware of this.

The Petrodollar- The real reason for the wars in Iraq, Libia, and the drumbeat for war with Iran

 
This video explains the idea floating around that war with Iran is about saving the petrodollar, as was Iraq. Every Paulite should be aware of this.

The Petrodollar- The real reason for the wars in Iraq, Libia, and the drumbeat for war with Iran


did this air on MSM? probably not.it it things like this that will be most missed if SOPA is enacted.while watching the video,every part of my brain was telling me,WHY DO I STILL PAY FOR MY CABLE ?
 
I was saying the same thing to myself Dyslexic, about why this just isn't on the MSM news. This seems like something everyone should know about.

Why hide how the petrodollar works and what is happening globally with oil trades that can cause the U.S. dollar to become next to worthless. Why does this need to be so secretive and covered up with excuses for taking over regimes to keep the petro dollar secure.
 
Wow, the rabbit hole goes deeper. This is making so much sense.

THIS petro dollar crap is why we have been sold out to China.

Part 3 gets into why alternative energy has been kept surpressed for the same reason- to keep the petrodollar alive.


Peak Oil, Monetary Policy, & The Petrodollar Part 2



Part 3
 
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Okay, perhaps I missing something here. If so, could someone explain this? If the petrodollar were replaced by the petroeuro couldn't we simply print more US dollars and exchange them for euros. Thus accomplishing the same thing by purchasing oil at the expense of our national debt? Sure it would be better to have dollars as the currency of choice, but we would still be propping up similar results.
 
Okay, perhaps I missing something here. If so, could someone explain this? If the petrodollar were replaced by the petroeuro couldn't we simply print more US dollars and exchange them for euros. Thus accomplishing the same thing by purchasing oil at the expense of our national debt? Sure it would be better to have dollars as the currency of choice, but we would still be propping up similar results.

dollar would spiral out of control and crash. But the whole deal about there not being any gold anyway is plausible and helps Ron's case even more, except this is far too complicated for the zombies to comprehend.

btw, Are you the one they call suai lao wai?
 
Okay, perhaps I missing something here. If so, could someone explain this? If the petrodollar were replaced by the petroeuro couldn't we simply print more US dollars and exchange them for euros. Thus accomplishing the same thing by purchasing oil at the expense of our national debt? Sure it would be better to have dollars as the currency of choice, but we would still be propping up similar results.

Printing US dollars and exchanging dollars for Euros are both actions that devalue the US dollar compared to the Euro...so the more this is done, the less oil it will purchase. In addition, a move away from petrodollars could instigate a dollar-dumping move on China's (or anyone else's) part, sparking hyperinflation in the US. We don't export a whole lot anymore, so oil is the number one reason why international demand for the dollar is high in the first place.
 
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Printing US dollars and exchanging dollars for Euros are both actions that devalue the US dollar compared to the Euro...so the more this is done, the less oil it will purchase. In addition, a move away from petrodollars could instigate a dollar-dumping move on China's (or anyone else's) part, sparking hyperinflation in the US. We don't export a whole lot anymore, so oil is the number one reason why international demand for the dollar is high in the first place.

Thanks that's straight forward. Appreciate it.
 
I've tried explaining this theory to some people and they just look at me crazy, but it just makes sense. The spending on wars, the debt incurred and the devaluation of the dollar.

Countries are seeing the light that they don't need to sell their own oil in dollars. If all opec companies simultaneously dumped the dollar and sold them in euro's or other currencies.

Our currency would almost fall flat on its face over night and hyper inflation would occur. We consume way more than we produce hence why we will be screwed in this situation.

We can't produce enough to trade our domestic goods for other currencies to sustain our dependency on oil. Its funny when you ask your common folk around town "Do you know why economic experts have said the occupation of Iraq was for oil" and most people just saying its to keep gas prices down or they've never heard that etc... Its just ridiculous that people focus on abortion, gay marriage, and religious issues yet they fail to see what their government is doing without telling the public.

Iran will conveniently about potential WMD's that don't exist and before you know it, were policing the world taking over the worlds oil reserves to protect our flawed consumptive society.

Yet no one seems to care any of this is going on. It's because your average american believes into all the bullshit propaganda that gets spread through the media. This is one of the reasons why I woke up and followed Ron Paul because he acknowledges all of this.

No other candidate will in fear of losing their precious lobbied handouts. Sorry I've gone on a jumpy type rant, but I think most of you know where I come from when you try to talk about something and people are completely ignorant or just call you a looney conspiracy nut job.

None of this to me is irrational or conspiracy, but it very plausible and based on economic facts. Its just never been confirmed that's whats going on because our government doesn't acknowledge it.
 
it is not a conspiracy in the sense of evil people sitting in a secret location and hatching a plot.what the story represents is a watertight logical explanation for WHY maintaining the status quo is important to people who have power and money.it is rational ignorance to avoid talking about it.
 
I've tried explaining this theory to some people and they just look at me crazy, but it just makes sense. The spending on wars, the debt incurred and the devaluation of the dollar.

Countries are seeing the light that they don't need to sell their own oil in dollars. If all opec companies simultaneously dumped the dollar and sold them in euro's or other currencies.

Our currency would almost fall flat on its face over night and hyper inflation would occur. We consume way more than we produce hence why we will be screwed in this situation.

We can't produce enough to trade our domestic goods for other currencies to sustain our dependency on oil. Its funny when you ask your common folk around town "Do you know why economic experts have said the occupation of Iraq was for oil" and most people just saying its to keep gas prices down or they've never heard that etc... Its just ridiculous that people focus on abortion, gay marriage, and religious issues yet they fail to see what their government is doing without telling the public.

Iran will conveniently about potential WMD's that don't exist and before you know it, were policing the world taking over the worlds oil reserves to protect our flawed consumptive society.

Yet no one seems to care any of this is going on. It's because your average american believes into all the bullshit propaganda that gets spread through the media. This is one of the reasons why I woke up and followed Ron Paul because he acknowledges all of this.

No other candidate will in fear of losing their precious lobbied handouts. Sorry I've gone on a jumpy type rant, but I think most of you know where I come from when you try to talk about something and people are completely ignorant or just call you a looney conspiracy nut job.

None of this to me is irrational or conspiracy, but it very plausible and based on economic facts. Its just never been confirmed that's whats going on because our government doesn't acknowledge it.

Great post. Even I haven't fully recognized the importance of this...
I always figured that in the event of a currency collapse, the supply chain will be disrupted for a couple weeks until people get their asses in gear and work out an alternate medium of exchange (gold, silver, bullets, cigarettes, toilet paper...whatever), but grocery stores would be refilled soon after. However, I routinely forget about our dependence on foreign oil: Our entire supply chain and distribution of goods is extremely nonlocal, so shipping goods in trucks is highly dependent on our ability to buy large amounts of fuel internationally. A dollar collapse would totally screw us here. Now that you and the others in this thread have connected the dots for me, I'm honestly much more scared right now of a collapse than I've been in the past...we're in trouble.

it is not a conspiracy in the sense of evil people sitting in a secret location and hatching a plot.what the story represents is a watertight logical explanation for WHY maintaining the status quo is important to people who have power and money.it is rational ignorance to avoid talking about it.
The irony is that people around the world would be perfectly happy to use dollars forever, if we didn't constantly devalue them and use our military and petrodollar hegemony to bully other countries around. (We'd have to export goods in order to continually buy oil without devaluing the dollar though.) Either the establishment goons are stupid, or they indeed have the ulterior motives many of us believe they have (i.e. one world government).
 
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no there is a white guy selling texas style hotdogs at rao he night market and he is a ron paul supporter. :D

No, that's not me. I am an English teacher at Tzu-Chi University in Hualien. Ron Paul supporter's in Taiwan are everywhere. It's common knowledge amongst the expat community worldwide that the only candidate worthy of the presidency is Ron Paul. No one else will do.
 
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Old news.

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WOW I just read rest of the comments.
I am surprised that you guys in U.S.A. are so surprised that this is happening. In the rest of the world this is old news. Russia and China are already doing it in all of their bilateral trade. Japan now joined too. In EU there is for years plan to do that too.India and Iran are not exceptions. That explains a lot of my questions: why people and politicians in U.S:A dont do something about it.... Now I got the answer "you dont know".

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Well Ron Paul knows it....
 
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This essentially vindicates Ron Paul. We just lost this round of economic warfare to the Indians and Chinese. The only option for the US, if it is to remain Bull headed, is to threaten war against China and India. Otherwise, the US just needs to eat its words and withdraw sanctions. My father, a non supporter, said there needed to be a big event for people to turn to Ron Paul. This may be it. Lets hope the republicans are dynamic enough to change course in their thinking.
 
This essentially vindicates Ron Paul. We just lost this round of economic warfare to the Indians and Chinese. The only option for the US, if it is to remain Bull headed, is to threaten war against China and India. Otherwise, the US just needs to eat its words and withdraw sanctions. My father, a non supporter, said there needed to be a big event for people to turn to Ron Paul. This may be it. Lets hope the republicans are dynamic enough to change course in their thinking.
i dont see it in such stark terms. an indo/china -us war is simply out of question even for the most seasoned entrenched neocons.the real impact of non petrodollar trade is going to be rather slow.the central banks of the other nations are still beholden to the US Fed.if there are only a few central banks,the US fed can easy influence them(that,btw,is the reason they absolutely abhor free banking of any kind -too many banks issuing currency is a nightmare for even the most omniscient tyrant).
india and china will just suck it up and abandaon iran if full blown war breaks out.the US will force saudi to sell the difference in oil imports lost ,to china /india.
 
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