Russian Anti-Terror Troops Arrive in Syria

[Tyrion Lannister]

Who will win this game of thrones? The lions or the wolves?

 

[presence]

Don't get your panties in a wod... this is MSM fear mongering at its best:


Here's Why the Reports About Russian Troops in Syria are Very Misleading

Business Insider
Adam Taylor - Mar. 20, 2012, 3:02 PM

a tanker has docked in Russia's naval supply yard in Syria, with its standard anti-terrorism regiment attached due to frequent pirate attacksin the region. []
troops onboard the ships, their numbers are "too small to have a serious impact on the events in Syria
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the idea that this anti-terrorist squad would actively be supporting the Syrian regime seems unlikely.
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Russia's foreign policy is, if nothing else, based in extreme realism.

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Zero Hedge also picks up on the war mongering HYPE / HOAX here:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/abc-reports-russian-troops-have-arrived-syria-russia-denies


This whole thing began with ABC hyping a DEBKAfile report. The broken links for the now removed Debka report are here:
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/243157-Is-ABC-LYING-Russian-Anti-Terror-Troops-Arrive-in-Syria

If you know anything about Debka... they basically create current events political fiction to further the zionist agenda. Pretty much take anything they say with a grain of salt.


Also in today's evening news:

Russia Offers To Support Syria United Nations Plan
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/20/russia-syria-united-nations-plan-kofi-annan_n_1366531.html
VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV 03/20/12 05:47 PM

reporting truth and dissolving hype,

presence

 

[Zippyjuan]

Looks like there is some question as to whether Russia has actually sent in any troops ashore or not. At any rate, Syria seems to be doing just fine killing those who oppose the regime themselves.

This article suggests it is just one ship off the shore being replaced by another ship off the shore standing by in case Russian nationals need evacuating:
http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-troops-syria-port-tartus-2012-3

Zero Hedge writes points towards the Russian version of that cited-Ria Novosti story (excuse the confusing Google translation):

Defense Ministry denied the information circulated a number of media that the coast of Syria are ostensibly Russian warships.

"No Russian warships, performing tasks from the shores of Syria, no. In the Syrian port of Tartus 10 days of the ship auxiliary fleet tanker" Iman "which performs the tasks logistics - the replenishment of fuel and food - of the Black Sea and Northern Fleets, which provides security shipping in the Gulf of Aden anti-piracy ", - told RIA Novosti representative of management information and the Defense Ministry.

Previously, some Russian and foreign media reported that the Black Sea Fleet tanker "Iman" on board which is a group of Marines, ostensibly to perform combat missions off the coast of Syria.

The Arabic version of the article, specifically cited by ABC News, provide an unnamed source as saying there are two ships in the region, one containing a counter-terrorist force. However, It goes on to cite an Interfax report that says the ship was replacing a different ship which already contained Russian military, and the military is there to support "the evacuation of Russian nationals from there when necessary".

After reading these sources, our takeaway from reading the reports cited by ABC doesn't seem so different to the official Russian story — that a tanker has docked in Russia's naval supply yard in Syria, with its standard anti-terrorism regiment attached due to frequent pirate attacks in the region.

Experts seem to agree. One analyst, Viktor Murakhovski, told the BBC's Russian service that if there are troops onboard the ships, their numbers are "too small to have a serious impact on the events in Syria". Another, Ilya Kramnik, said they were likely there to help evacuate civilians or for "the protection of the Russian base in the event of any incident and a possible cover-up of arms in case it will try to catch."

Maybe Russia does have troops inside Syria. We don't really know, but they have a naval base in the country, and due to their close links with the Syrian regime, it seems likely they may have a lot of Russian nationals in the country they want to evacuate should the situation in the country deteriorate. Hesitantly, we'd probably say they do have some sort of small military presence there.

But the idea that this anti-terrorist squad would actively be supporting the Syrian regime seems unlikely. While Russian domestic policy is sometimes stunningly cynical, Russia's foreign policy is, if nothing else, based in extreme realism. And while they may drag their feet and offer all kinds of indirect support to Bashar Assad, supplying troops to actively fight on the ground is (we hope) a step too far.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-troops-syria-port-tartus-2012-3#ixzz1piWcmPHF

 

[BlackTerrel]

Same boat. I'm a fan of anything that exposes the utter hypocrisy of our foreign policy. I will love watching the mental gymnastics that if Russia does this then it's wrong but if the US does it then it's all gravy and everyone wins.

I feel like I'm seeing the exact opposite on this forum.

If we do it then it's bad but when other people do it then it's good.

It should be bad regardless.

 

[Hyperion]

I feel like I'm seeing the exact opposite on this forum.

If we do it then it's bad but when other people do it then it's good.

It should be bad regardless.

I totally agree. I'm in favor because it highlights the hypocrisy of our policy. We get pissed when other nations look after their own self interests through intervention but expect the world to bend over for us. It just shows how morally relative and bankrupt the Wilsonian foreign policy is.

 

[oyarde]

Undoubtedly there are some hypocritical neocons who are hating on Russia for taking a page from their playbook.

Not sure what you mean ... I do not hate Russians or Syrians .... I have never even been to Moscow . I know a bit about " the playbook' , but , I am old , wise and reformed now , and generally uninterested . I was young once , and wanted a world of Peace , Libery , Freedom & oppurtunity for prosperity for all , I must pass that torch to the vibrant youth , and somehow , faithfully , wish that that they make the most of it . I wil do the best that I can , to provide information for thought about that process . God Bless .

 

[Hyperion]

Not sure what you mean ... I do not hate Russians or Syrians .... I have never even been to Moscow . I know a bit about " the playbook' , but , I am old , wise and reformed now , and generally uninterested . I was young once , and wanted a world of Peace , Libery , Freedom & oppurtunity for prosperity for all , I must pass that torch to the vibrant youth , and somehow , faithfully , wish that that they make the most of it . I wil do the best that I can , to provide information for thought about that process . God Bless .

The key word in my statement is 'neocons'.

 

[George_K]

Hello I'm from Syria, I would just like to say we are putting great hope into the Russian support. The terrorists seem to have switched to a Guerilla warfare tactic with the recent car bombs and God willing Assad will be able to restore peace and stability. The average Syrian wants to go back to work and the business of every day life, nobody wants an american style democracy forced on us, we have seen how the US treats people like Ron Paul, your model of democratic society is a fraud. Thankfully normal life is still possible in the large majority of Syria, but fear is growing as the rebels can strike anywhere, churches have been attacked. A Syria under Bashar al Assad was a place where Muslims, Kurds and Christians live together in peace. A Syria under these Muslimbrotherhood and Al Kaida terrorists sends us all back to the dark ages. Please dont support a war against Syria.

 

[Soldat_Amir]

Russian soldiers arrive in Syria view point

 

[oyarde]

Hello I'm from Syria, I would just like to say we are putting great hope into the Russian support. The terrorists seem to have switched to a Guerilla warfare tactic with the recent car bombs and God willing Assad will be able to restore peace and stability. The average Syrian wants to go back to work and the business of every day life, nobody wants an american style democracy forced on us, we have seen how the US treats people like Ron Paul, your model of democratic society is a fraud. Thankfully normal life is still possible in the large majority of Syria, but fear is growing as the rebels can strike anywhere, churches have been attacked. A Syria under Bashar al Assad was a place where Muslims, Kurds and Christians live together in peace. A Syria under these Muslimbrotherhood and Al Kaida terrorists sends us all back to the dark ages. Please dont support a war against Syria.

I would not.

 

[eduardo89]

I would not.

Same here.