Rush Limbaugh: Rand Paul upset the power structure. Neo cons are paranoid

[mosquitobite]

it's great that like 15 million people are hearing him mention Rand Paul non stop for the last few days.

Rush is helping us reach people we can only dream of.

Lessons in leadership...
http://iroots.org/2013/03/07/lessons-from-rand-paul-the-shirtless-dancing-guy/

It's no longer scary to be dancing.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Did he really call them neocons???

I remember him saying years ago that neo-con was just disparaging term for "Jew".

He did. He also traditionally hangs up on people who talk about neocons or Ron Paul. That's why I'm doubting that Rush actually said "neocon". I didn't hear it, so someone will have to find a transcript before I'll believe it.

 

[mosquitobite]

Did he really call them neocons???

I remember him saying years ago that neo-con was just disparaging term for "Jew".

Well at least those with dual-citizenship.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Rush holds the belief (that most other people in the party do) that the worst Republican is still better than any Democrat. While that belief makes a lot of libertarians cringe, he does have a point. Take Lindsey Graham for example (I personally cannot stand the guy), but when you look at his voting record it is a hell of a lot better than say Harry Reid's. So Rush will give time to a Graham, all the while bashing Reid, which he views as the true enemy of conservatism.

I disagree. While the liberal left does like to use State power to push an agenda, the Conservative movement generally makes Statism a sort of religion.

A very detailed and thoughtful explanation by Murray-
[h=1]Why Conservatives Love War and the State[/h]

ETA: remember, modern conservatism came about as force for belligerence, militariasm, and vicious nationalism in the post-war era. The Old Right is long, long gone except for pockets hither and thither-and thoroughly un-influential in general.
ETA 2: It's interesting to note that Rush bears many-but not all-of the distinct traits of neoconservatives, such as virulent hatred for libertarians and advocation of projecting of imperial power around the world.

 

[misean]

I remember a 60 minute interview around 1990 early in his career, where he explcitly said "This is a business. My goal is to grab the biggest audience I can and to hold onto it for as long as I can so I can charge advertisers confiscatory prices". I've never forgotten that.

I believe he has core beliefs, but I also know he does what he does to make money.

That's funny. I remember being in elementary or middle school and hearing him say something to that same effect. I think he called himself an entertainer and his number one job was to sell advertising is the way he put it. I didn't think it was bad that he said it but was surprised at the time that someone who influences so many people would phrase it like that.

 

[fisharmor]

Take Lindsey Graham for example (I personally cannot stand the guy), but when you look at his voting record it is a hell of a lot better than say Harry Reid's.

How is that the case? Just wondering.

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

How is that the case? Just wondering.

JBS's scorecard looks at 40 votes for the 112th. Now JBS is about as harcore paleo-con as you can get. They score Reid at 17% and Graham at 73%

http://jbs.org/voting-index/download?id=302_2852523dc7082dca5a39e388346de1e8

Freedomworks focuses primarily (if not solely) on economic and domestic issues. They score Reid at 0% and Graham at 77% for the 112th.

http://congress.freedomworks.org/keyvotes/senate/2012

Now don't get me wrong, I want to see Graham primaried, and out of office. We can do much better in SC. But if hypothetically the options were Reid or Graham, I would take Graham any day of the week, because at least some of the time he is going to vote the way I would want him to vote.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

JBS's scorecard looks at 40 votes for the 112th. Now JBS is about as harcore paleo-con as you can get. They score Reid at 17% and Graham at 73%

http://jbs.org/voting-index/download?id=302_2852523dc7082dca5a39e388346de1e8

JBS, in my experience, is generally "paleocon", but not Old Right.

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

JBS, in my experience, is generally "paleocon", but not Old Right.

It's an indicator, just as any other scorecard is. Use it as you need to, and score based on your own voting preference.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

What were the Nielsen (TV) ratings for the day and evening of March 6-7 for CSPAN2 . . . ?
maybe their biggest ever I thinks . . .

Very interested in those ratings as well.

 

[COpatriot]

Rush Limbaugh talking about Rand being a threat to neocons and interventionism

The segment just ended but I hope we can find a tube because the it was pretty good for the most part. I know Limbaugh posts transcripts of his show on his site so maybe we can find it there but this really highlights how we could really be at a turning point here with what Rand has done.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I heard it. Limbaugh may be playing games. I don't trust him. He likes to repeat negative accusations against Rand, and then say "but that's ridiculous". He's been doing it for a couple of days. He is trying to get on the bandwagon and is playing on the disgust with RINOs like McCain and Graham.

 

[twomp]

Rush holds the belief (that most other people in the party do) that the worst Republican is still better than any Democrat. While that belief makes a lot of libertarians cringe, he does have a point. Take Lindsey Graham for example (I personally cannot stand the guy), but when you look at his voting record it is a hell of a lot better than say Harry Reid's. So Rush will give time to a Graham, all the while bashing Reid, which he views as the true enemy of conservatism.

You are comparing one of the worst (R's) to one of the worst (D's). I'd take Sen. Wyden(D) over Graham any day.

 

[jtap]

Rush: Neocon thinks that Rand Paul is a kook, a stealth kook.
~~~
Me: <Notice, Rush is distancing himselves from neocons>

Did rush learn the beckstab from beck or did beck learn it from rush? (in which case it should be renamed but there just isn't anything clever that stands out)

 

[Christian Liberty]

I don't know a whole lot about Reid's positions in general, but in general the average democrat is less bloodthirsty on foreign policy than the average Republican. The Republican, by contrast, is better on the economy. But why should it matter? They're all warhawks. And therefore should be opposed.

 

[Karsten]

JBS's scorecard looks at 40 votes for the 112th. Now JBS is about as harcore paleo-con as you can get. They score Reid at 17% and Graham at 73%

I don't know, that sounds kind of strrraaannngggee.

 

[mosquitobite]

You can tell an imposter from the rest. Well, I think most of us here can.

The sheep though? Well, they're still sheep. Lapping up their milk from Rush & Beck.

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

You are comparing one of the worst (R's) to one of the worst (D's). I'd take Sen. Wyden(D) over Graham any day.

Looking at the two scorecards Wyden votes with Reid on almost every bill they cover on JBS. He has a 0% on Freedomworks. When you look at his voting record Wyden is a hardcore liberal who votes with his party most of the time.

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

I don't know, that sounds kind of strrraaannngggee.

Again, my disclaimer is that I do not like Graham.

But it sounds strange because if you hang on on forums like this we talk a lot of about how Graham sucks, but very little of how Reid sucks.

Incidentally, on JBS for the 111th Reid was at 5% and Graham was at 87%.

But the best thing you can do it look at the votes and make the decision for yourself.

 

[EBounding]

The Rush Limbaugh show is basically the "Drudge Report" show. As long as Drudge likes Rand so will Rush.