Runoff election for a free state - round 2

[speciallyblend]

if the state is east of denver,then you are screwed.

 

[speciallyblend]

Colorado is the least fascist of all the states(except alaska). I live in the co mtns ,WE ARE ALREADY A FREE STATE. We already have a majority of openminded people in our 3 counties in central colorado(and across our state). We have already won many amendments in our counties that put us years ahead of the other states . WE DONT HAVE TO MOVE WE HAVE A MAJORITY ALREADY VOTING AND MAKING CHANGES
COLORADO IS YEARS AHEAD OF ALL THESE PROJECTS.

unfortunately most are smart enough not to register republican but hey we are light years ahead of Nh and many of the states you list, if you added more people here then we would secure a majority faster . if its east of denver they are already screwed,give everything east of denver back to the british (sarcasm)

 

[d_goddard]

New Hampshire has a sea port, and a boundary with another country.

New Hampshire has a profoundly libertarian media culture:
http://www.freestateproject.org/nhinfo/life

But more importantly, the RPR is already taking over the NH GOP. We were doing it before Ron even started his presidential run, before we invited Ron to the first even NH Liberty Forum in 2007.

Go to any NH GOP event, and about 30% of the people there are Free-Staters. The President of the FSP is the Chair of the NH Women's Republican Federation, and vice-chair of the Concord City GOP, fer cryin' out loud! A bunch of the Manchester GOP committee are ... you guessed it... Free-Staters.

Whine and complain and make excuses and daydream all you like. Where the rubber hits the road, we've been doing the ground work for years in NH. Why start from zero?

 

[OferNave]

Go to any NH GOP event, and about 30% of the people there are Free-Staters. The President of the FSP is the Chair of the NH Women's Republican Federation, and vice-chair of the Concord City GOP, fer cryin' out loud! A bunch of the Manchester GOP committee are ... you guessed it... Free-Staters.

And one of them runs a fabulous tavern!

NH FTW.

 

[FTL_Ian]

Good luck to anyone who doesn't choose NH. If you want to be with the best Liberty activists, NH wins in spades.

 

[Jane Aitken]

New Hampshire

NH is already the home of the 'free state' movement so this is redundant.

We already have people elected to office here too.
It's very easy to get close to government here.

Come join us in NH!

 

[Jane Aitken]

Colorado?

Seems like a liberal state to me. And a highly taxed one at that.

Not sure you 'get it'. When we say FREE we mean, of restrictive government, with fiscally sound policies and low taxes.

Open minded usually means the beads and sandals crowd, and big government.

 

[porcupine]

Buncha babies

Most of these posts have to consistent themes. One is "I want to move where it's warm" and the other is "I don't want to move at all. I want everyone to move to where I am."

Both of these predict failure because they show laziness and an unwillingness to make even the smallest of sacrifices for freedom.

Warm states have a major problem: everyone is moving there. In the west, the warm states are getting lots of socialist nanny state Californians. In the East, warm states are already filled up with socialists nanny-staters who are getting re-enforced with yuppy socialist nanny staters from the North. Plus, the high population growth will make it hard for the freedom lovers moving in to not get drowned out. Texas is already too big.

If you want a free state, it's going to be a bit cold.

If you are more concerned about weather than freedom, move to Texas or the Nevada desert. If you are a serious liberty activist, come join the growing community making a real difference in New Hampshire! We've started setting up the infrastructure to wage a long and lasting battle for freedom.

New Hampshire has the lowest taxes of any state in the country, very good gun laws, many counties have no zoning or building permit requirements. In addition, you've got lots of people backing you up as you run for office, protest or do whatever it is you do. See what happened in Grafton recently, for instance.

In New Hampshire, whatever you do for freedom, you will not do it alone. And did I mention that New Hampshire has NO REAL ID and has made it illegal for the state to participate in the Real ID program?


Montana and Alaska aren't bad choices as far as being places with a lot of freedom, but again, any causes you get into will probably be done all by yourself.


If you have any doubts about New Hampshire, come to the Porcupine Freedom Festival this summer!

 

[freest8r]

New Hampshire FSP is Where it's At

The FSP has years and years of ground work already laid in the great state of New Hampshire. Dr. Jason Sorens did a ton of research at the very beginning to determine what criteria were needed for successful free state project. 10 states were put up for a vote once 5,000 people signed up. New Hampshire won, and the results there have been spectacular. They started ahead of most states because they don't have any sales tax or income tax, and they have a culture of liberty.

Once Free Staters started moving in, the results, particularly at the local level, have been awesome. We are too small a movement to try to spread out over a bunch of different states. The key is to pick one and make it happen.

Go to the Porcupine Festival this Summer in New Hampshire and see for yourself. It will give you hope, and it will be an experience you'll never forget.

http://www.freestateproject.org/festival

 

[markwarden]

Because of the Free State Project activists who are already in the state (over 530 an counting, with 500 more on the way this year), New Hampshire already has the people and infrastructure in place for this type of movement. It just makes sense!

With NH's "first in the nation primary" every 4 years, we'll have a chance to always be out front with the next pro-liberty candidate to follow in Dr. Paul's footsteps.

 

[FreeStater]

Seems like a liberal state to me. And a highly taxed one at that.

Not sure you 'get it'. When we say FREE we mean, of restrictive government, with fiscally sound policies and low taxes.

Open minded usually means the beads and sandals crowd, and big government.

Are you talking about NH? If so, are you joking?

NH has the lowest tax burden of any state except Saudi Alaska. New Hampshire has No Sales Tax. No Income Tax. New Hampshire was recently rated the least effective state government in the United States by the Pew research center, noting that nobody in the government has any power to get anything done. New Hampshire has some of the least restrictive gun laws (Open carry is legal, concealed carry requires a permit which is on a shall-issue basis). The most governmental power is at the local level where 30 people from the town get together and decide stuff like the property tax, tell me thats not ripe for freedom movement.

Seriously, I understand that some of you are afraid of snow, and I respect that. If you want to go somewhere else, Go. You might even be able to convince a couple people to agree with you. However, for those of you who want to do something worthwhile, join the Free State Project.

One note on the snow thing: The two hosts of Free Talk Live (a nationally syndicated radio show sponsored by the Free State Project) moved to New Hampshire from Florida. And one of them has been spending the winter building his own house. Those are the kinds of committed people we have in NH.

 

[pinkmandy]

Or if you don't want to reinvent the wheel, check out these discussion that the free staters had years ago on ALL the states- pros and cons: http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=5.0

I'm heading up to NH w/dh on the 28th of this month for a visit. We hope to move before summer. Parts of NH avg 10 degrees cooler year round than it is in my area of VA year round. I can deal w/a 10 degree avg difference for freedom. I see a lot of assumptions and you have to remember A LOT depends on where you live as well.

 

[Jane Aitken]

Not kidding...

Are you talking about NH? If so, are you joking?

If you *really* are in NH and don't know who "Jane Aitken" is then you are really VERY NEW. It's funny when newbies land here and try to tell the natives all about NH. LOL I know the other two posters calling themselves, 'porcupines' so who are you?

NH has the lowest tax burden of any state except Saudi Alaska. New Hampshire has No Sales Tax. No Income Tax. New Hampshire was recently rated the least effective state government in the United States by the Pew research center, noting that nobody in the government has any power to get anything done. New Hampshire has some of the least restrictive gun laws (Open carry is legal, concealed carry requires a permit which is on a shall-issue basis). The most governmental power is at the local level where 30 people from the town get together and decide stuff like the property tax, tell me thats not ripe for freedom movement.

Yah, so? Yer preachin' to the choir.

Seriously, I understand that some of you are afraid of snow, and I respect that. If you want to go somewhere else, Go. You might even be able to convince a couple people to agree with you. However, for those of you who want to do something worthwhile, join the Free State Project.

I don't have to join any group to motivate me to live in NH. I've been here for decades and I'm already a fixture in the political scene. But like I said you must be new....

One note on the snow thing: The two hosts of Free Talk Live (a nationally syndicated radio show sponsored by the Free State Project) moved to New Hampshire from Florida. And one of them has been spending the winter building his own house. Those are the kinds of committed people we have in NH.

Well I am an ex-downhill racer so I doubt the snow bothers me much. And I have my own radio show that is more about getting things done than ranting about what is wrong.

Check us out sometime:

NH Taxpayer Radio on Odeo, iTunes, Podcaster.com etc... and if you really live here you can get us on 90.7 FM on the RADIO!

No I'm not joking. Colorado is full of socialists.

 

[FreeStater]

I have heard of Jane Aitken, but to be honest, I rarely notice the names of people posting on forums, since I rarely know them personally. I have listened to NH Taxpayer Radio, actually, it was good, though I don't get to it often enough.

Please do not take my post to be a personal hostility, most of it wasn't even directed at your post, but mostly to the Anti-NH crowd in general. I thought the post you posted about the state being socialist and highly taxed was towards New Hampshire (which was why the "Are you talking about New Hampshire") if judging by your most recent post you were instead talking about Colorado, I'd agree.

The mistake was mine and I apologize for any confusion. On this forum I've taken to zeal in defense of NH.

Actually, I see the reasoning behind my confusion. You had two posts in a row, one proclaiming the benefit of NH, one that (had I noticed the subject line) was focused on Colorado that I misread as a response to your first post by someone else who was attacking NH. Happy to clear it up.

 

[Matt]

Why isn't Wyoming on here? It has like 500k people total, and it was second to NH in the Free State Project vote.

 

[IDefendThePlatform]

Why isn't Wyoming on here? It has like 500k people total, and it was second to NH in the Free State Project vote.

Agreed. Wyoming would be my #2 choice(after new hampshire), and already has a free state project in place:

http://www.freestatewyoming.org/

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Where is Wyoming? Wyoming is my #1. Can't vote without a Wyoming.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

#1 - Wyoming
#2 - Montana
#3 - Alaska

 

[Jane Aitken]

Thanks

I have heard of Jane Aitken, but to be honest, I rarely notice the names of people posting on forums, since I rarely know them personally. I have listened to NH Taxpayer Radio, actually, it was good, though I don't get to it often enough.

Please do not take my post to be a personal hostility, most of it wasn't even directed at your post, but mostly to the Anti-NH crowd in general. I thought the post you posted about the state being socialist and highly taxed was towards New Hampshire (which was why the "Are you talking about New Hampshire") if judging by your most recent post you were instead talking about Colorado, I'd agree.

The mistake was mine and I apologize for any confusion. On this forum I've taken to zeal in defense of NH.

Actually, I see the reasoning behind my confusion. You had two posts in a row, one proclaiming the benefit of NH, one that (had I noticed the subject line) was focused on Colorado that I misread as a response to your first post by someone else who was attacking NH. Happy to clear it up.

Here is one of many BETTER examples of a model freestater -- someone who is politically active in his or her community and has made a living for himself here.

http://www.unionleader.com/article....rticleId=931731d4-0536-4587-b3bf-4599268091bd

 

[Jane Aitken]

No accessibility.

#1 - Wyoming
#2 - Montana
#3 - Alaska

The legislature in these states is not accessible either due to the size of the state itself or the number of times it meets.

NH's legislature is accessible. All the activists know each other because we are a small state and a very prosperous one being near the coast and all the high tech industries.

These three states above are find if you want to hole up in the mountains somewhere.