Running mate?

Pat Buchanan w00t! Tancredo would be good too...

I definitely don't see Powell as his running mate. Remember that Powell was the figure that made the case to goto Iraq pointing out their "weapon silos" to the UN and the American audience. I know that the reason Powell left was because of his disgust with the administration, but he should of left way before that...
 
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While Lou Dobbs, always says he doesn't want political office.....

I would love to see him as a running mate for Ron Paul......at least if we can make it to that point....

With Ron being pretty Libertarian in his views....and Lou pretty much a populist in his views......

I would love to see a Ron Paul / Lou Dobbs ticket.....their views aren't THAT far apart in alot of areas....it would be a nice balance of ideas....

Lou's popularity on CNN has been increasing just as Ron Pauls popularity has.....

I know it's a fantasy....but I think it would be awsome......
 
Also let's not forget Lou offered all presidential candidates an invitation to come on his show....

Ron Paul was the FIRST to accept.....

And after Ron was on Lou liked what Ron was saying.....
 
Hawaii Libertarian said:
For sake of discussion, let's say that somehow Ron Paul pulls it off, wins the nomination, and gets elected. Unless there are substantial changes in the makeup of Congress, he will face the worst legislative gridlock in history, which makes the current standoff between Bush and the Reid/Pelosi led Congress seem like a group hug.
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Personally,

I think if Ron Paul was elected president....

He would make the perfect REFEREE for the right and their neocon leaders....

And the left and their Neolib leaders.....

Let the Left and the Right fight it out with Ron Paul as REFEREE with the veto power....

Finally some balance to our government if that's the way it turns out.....I think that would be better than what we have.....
 
Hawaii Libertarian said:
For sake of discussion, let's say that somehow Ron Paul pulls it off, wins the nomination, and gets elected.…
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Do you know just how much power the President has? You should read some Harry Browne to see just what a libertarian President could do without the permission of the Congress, or the SCOTUS. Besides, the worst justices on the court (Stevens and Ginsburg) will likely be retiring within the next 4 to 8 years, and only POTUS Paul can be trusted to appoint the best justices.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=13247
 
Isn't Gravel in debt?

Gravel, Mike AK

Raised:$15,534 Spent: $18,304 Cash on hand: $498 Debt: $88,516

He has a fund raising thing on his website for 70k (for May).
 
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Ron Paul has repeatedly said that he would eliminate the IRS and replace it with NOTHING if he was elected.

He does not support a national sales tax.
 
Presidential Power

Shmuel Spade said:
Do you know just how much power the President has? You should read some Harry Browne to see just what a libertarian President could do without the permission of the Congress, or the SCOTUS. Besides, the worst justices on the court (Stevens and Ginsburg) will likely be retiring within the next 4 to 8 years, and only POTUS Paul can be trusted to appoint the best justices.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=13247
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Yes, the President does have a lot of power, and I believe that Dr. Paul is a man of principle. He could get a lot done just by issuing executive orders, too, but I don't think that's his style as a devotee of the Constitution. I don't think he would want to be portrayed as a hypocrite, though the MSM would be all over him like wasps anyway.

Don't get me wrong, anything is better than what we have now, but it would be far greater if we could get change that couldn't easily be undone by a subsequent administration.
 
Hawaii Libertarian said:
Yes, the President does have a lot of power, and I believe that Dr. Paul is a man of principle. He could get a lot done just by issuing executive orders, too, but I don't think that's his style as a devotee of the Constitution. I don't think he would want to be portrayed as a hypocrite, though the MSM would be all over him like wasps anyway.

Don't get me wrong, anything is better than what we have now, but it would be far greater if we could get change that couldn't easily be undone by a subsequent administration.
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Issuing executive orders is unnecessary to greatly change the federal government unilaterally. All Paul needs to do is rescind thousands of executive orders already issued.

President Paul has the power to pardon for federal crimes, so this would mean essentially that the federal drug war is over, and the federal war against gun owners is over.

Do you know how many cabinet departments are directly underneath the President, and survive only by his good graces? He could eliminate them and the staff that work for those departments singlehandedly.

Read your Constitution and apply some imagination.

Being the POTUS he will have the power of veto and will likely veto any and everything that comes to his desk. In order to beat that veto, the (R)s and the (D)s will be forced to work together. By the sheer logic of his philosophy Ron Paul is a uniter and not a divider. If the Congress remains as divided as it is and no legislation passes, all the better.

With the retirement of a few justices Paul could have his solicitor general before the SCOTUS night and day bringing challenges to the Constitutionality of some Congressional activities.

There's just so much that could be done that it boggles the mind to even think about how it might go.

Please read the article that I linked in my last post, and read Article II of the Constitution.
 
BuddyRey said:
Just my two cents of course, but it occurs to me that the idea of universal healthcare is too innately egalitarian and endemic to a decent democratic system to be immediately painted with the broad brush of socialism. The people who wouldn't benefit from such a system call it a socialist ideal because they know the word "socialism" scares the livin' daylights out of everybody, but the fact is that the U.S. is the only developed Western nation without SOME form of guaranteed healthcare.
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Socialism it is. It would destroy our country.
 
Joseph Charles Wilson would be loyal, a good strongarm VP and they dare not take President Paul out or Joe will get them.. I thought about this for a good ten minutes and tossed out hundreds of names to get his name and can't think of a downside yet. He is a trained and qualified Ambassador/Statesman who sticks to his guns even if the personal cost looks like it may be a great burden. His wife is stunning and incredibly smart as well as both of them knowing the nculear proliferation networks from the inside. He was Ambassador appointed by Republicans to Iraq from 88-91 and knows Africa..the new hotspot. He would be acceptable to crossover Democrats and Independents due to his lawful outing of the Bush Admins lies about yellowcake.

The bottom line appears to be that the VP must be a politcal known and not some schmuck actor or athlete like I have seen mentioned. No cult of personality guy is needed. Someone who understands the international issues and already has a list of phone numbers to call. Someone who they know would put serious boots to the fire if an assassination happened and they became President. Those who have too much politcal ambition should be counted out as they may pull an LBJ. They must be a natural Statesman as Dr Paul is as America has alot of humble apologies to bestow around the world. Someone who can continue to hold the reigns of power in 2016.

Best Regards
Randy
 
Revolution9 said:
Joseph Charles Wilson would be loyal, a good strongarm VP and they dare not take President Paul out or Joe will get them.. I thought about this for a good ten minutes and tossed out hundreds of names to get his name and can't think of a downside yet. He is a trained and qualified Ambassador/Statesman who sticks to his guns even if the personal cost looks like it may be a great burden. His wife is stunning and incredibly smart as well as both of them knowing the nculear proliferation networks from the inside. He was Ambassador appointed by Republicans to Iraq from 88-91 and knows Africa..the new hotspot. He would be acceptable to crossover Democrats and Independents due to his lawful outing of the Bush Admins lies about yellowcake.

The bottom line appears to be that the VP must be a politcal known and not some schmuck actor or athlete like I have seen mentioned. No cult of personality guy is needed. Someone who understands the international issues and already has a list of phone numbers to call. Someone who they know would put serious boots to the fire if an assassination happened and they became President. Those who have too much politcal ambition should be counted out as they may pull an LBJ. They must be a natural Statesman as Dr Paul is as America has alot of humble apologies to bestow around the world. Someone who can continue to hold the reigns of power in 2016.

Best Regards
Randy
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I agree with a lot of what you've said here Randy. I hadn't thought of Joe Wilson, and he should definitely be considered--if not for VP, than for something else in the administration for sure (e.g. Sec of State).

I also agree with the suggestion someone made earlier in this thread about choosing SC Gov Marc Sanford for VP. He has legislative & executive experience; has some (positive, I believe) name recognition; is in favor of limited govt (like RP); is relatively young (but not overly so at 47) which would balance RP in age; he has an MBA; while in the Congress, he was in favor of Social Security privatization; etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Sanford




I realize it may seem premature and/or cheeky for us to try to envision what RP's cabinet could look like, but it's important for RP to have realistic choices to propose when he's asked about it on the campaign trail.
 
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james1906 said:
tom mcclintock would be a good choice. he's a republican state senator who ran for governor in the recall election and refused to back out for arnold.

here's what a liberal newspaper wrote about him. one of their writers endorsed him for governor to balance out the spend crazy democrat legislature.

http://www.ocweekly.com/features/features/the-case-for-governor-tom-mcclintock/20603/?page=2
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Word up my friend. Here's another for for McClintock. That would be an awesome team... :)
 
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I agree with a lot of what you've said here Randy. I hadn't thought of Joe Wilson, and he should definitely be considered--if not for VP, than for something else in the administration for sure (e.g. Sec of State).

I also agree with the suggestion someone made earlier in this thread about choosing SC Gov Marc Sanford for VP. He has legislative & executive experience; has some (positive, I believe) name recognition; is in favor of limited govt (like RP); is relatively young (but not overly so at 47) which would balance RP in age; he has an MBA; while in the Congress, he was in favor of Social Security privatization; etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Sanford

I realize it may seem premature and/or cheeky for us to try to envision what RP's cabinet could look like, but it's important for RP to have realistic choices to propose when he's asked about it on the campaign trail.
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I think alot of touting of executive experience is not necessarily a good thing. The modern American executive is the epitomy of ego centered prideful arrogance. Welll..except for the rap guys..heh.. People think executives know about economics but they don't they know business and sales and money accumulating. A government leader should have a good grasp of economics and not have a knack for grasping for money. The federal government should not be run like a business. It should adhere to budgetary constraints but the similarity stops there. Business are ofttimes entirely wihtout ethic as the focus is on the bottomline and the executives position is in peril if the bottomline is not expanding regardless of practices implemented by said executive to get the growth to save his ass and keep his outrageously bloated pay and benefits package intact.

The government on the other hand should only be a handler of our money, putting it to use were we tell them and withdrawing it from where we want it withdrawn. They are to be our representative when dealing with other nations. We do not want salesman representing us..nor slick executives talking out of both sides of their mouths cutting deals on the side for their future approbriums. Cheney is the prime example of Executives in Government. In his sphere he gets a high five for his machinations. I know. I dealt with one of his arms dealers trying to buy 2.5 million metric tons of heavy melting steel for him while seated as VP..Totally fucking illegal. They..the Tennessee arms dealer and his attorney were both major jerks and thought that Iraq blood being spilled was funny. I wanted to reach through the phone and pummel him. They were fucking proud of this!! excuse my tone..but this outrages me now four years later..

Career Statesmen make better Cabinet members and VP's in my opinion. One of the reasons Dr Paul can keep the stance he does ish e is sure of his economic future as a memeber of the medical community. Someone who is not worried about their economic gain from holding office is the best type of Civil Srvant IMHO.

Best Regards
randy
 
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