RP Movement Has Been Hijacked!

[LittleLightShining]

What bothers me about him is that he wants to be the leader.

 

[sailor]

You can`t help but think his "conversion" is awfully timely.

I ask why now?

This is not a coincidence!

 

[sailor]

What bothers me about him is that he wants to be the leader.

Yepp so he can hijack our mojo, to reanimate the dead rotting mainline republican corpse that was killed by the neocons. Without transforming it for real!

 

[american.swan]

Beck is not our friend.

He'll be ready for 2011 with a massive audience of devout followers - he'll be pushing Jindal, Palin, or some other neoconservative. Hide and watch.

We need to use Beck, but we have to keep our distance.

 

[Xenophage]

Hey guys, you're probably right that Beck is still wishy washy and easily swayed by a appeals to emotion and group-think. But, I'll take what he SAYS at face-value. When he SAYS something I disagree with, I will be all over his shit like an indecipherable metaphor in a Bob Dylan song.

 

[silverhawks]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LQN5SZcOnw&feature=related

That says all I need to know about Beck.

I'd counsel to avoid him like the plague, but instead put out enough public grassroots buzz about liberty, freedom and the ideals of a republic that it drowns him out. If people want to know, and are willing to listen, then tell them.

He's obviously intent on hijacking and stalling this movement for whatever reason, rather than make public apologies to the people he has smeared over the years.

 

[fedup100]

This forum has become a "BECK" forum.

 

[sailor]

OK I have just brainstormed another hypothesis. Beck is competing with us for the same demographics! He realised that so he tries to mymic us in some aspects to better reach them, but not in those that matter the most to him!

He doesn`t want to hijack our movement! He wants to recruit a second movement for himself to lead. A movement which will be supposedly populist but will actually be mainstream controlled to neutralise our own. And to deplete our recruitment pool!

Beck is our direct rival!

He could be. This is how politics is done in much of the world.

Take the LDP in Russia in the 1990s. It was supposedly this angry populist party, but everone knows it was actually created by the Kremlin, because they wanted all the angry people in the party they indirectly controlled rather than led by an actuall lose cannon.

 

[silverhawks]

He wants to recruit a second movement for himself to lead. A movement which will be supposedly populist but will actually be mainstream controlled to neutralise our own. And to deplete our recruitment pool!

Explain how that is NOT hijacking this movement, again? What do you think will be more effective: one strong organised message of liberty, or a bunch of squabbling factions?

 

[sailor]

Explain how that is NOT hijacking this movement, again? What do you think will be more effective: one strong organised message of liberty, or a bunch of squabbling factions?

You`re right! IT`S SNOWBALL TIME!! GEEEEEEEEEET HIM!


We must remain vigilant! Nothing may surprise us!

 

[Young Paleocon]

If he pushes Palin or Jindal, I tend to think this movement is more than Obamabots following the leader, thought we had a mind of our own. Palin and Jindal are moronic liars end of story.

 

[acptulsa]

If he pushes Palin or Jindal, I tend to think this movement is more than Obamabots following the leader, thought we had a mind of our own. Palin and Jindal are moronic liars end of story.

That was a conclusion I came to in another Beck thread--if we can only teach the run-of-the-mill conservative to use a spoon, these talking heads over at Faux won't be able to spoon feed them any more.

We've got to teach them how to see and how to think for themselves as much as we can. Or, at least, reassure them that some of the real core values of the founders still have real merit, and that many will try to hoodwink them. If they can just learn to measure the candidates before them with a Jeffersonian yardstick, we'll be far better off in the future.

 

[Valli6]

Agree

For some time, I've also sensed that he was looking to hijack our movement. I was really annoyed when he said he'd use the "Join or Die" snake as a logo, about 2 months ago! Did anyone else see that? Last week, he read a letter from a woman thanking him for taking the initiative to "start this movement"! With all the crap we, and especially Ron Paul (and delegates!) have dealt with throughout the election and since, I would hate to be labeled as "Glen Beck followers"! Worse, I fear being drowned out, should he use our message to support unsuitable people like Romney, Palin or Jindal. However, now that he's started crying on cue, I don't see how people can view him as any sort of "leader" for very long. Lately, if I put his show on I'm always waiting for him to cry and if he does we just laugh and laugh!

 

[AuH20]

I think Beck is honestly frightened at what he sees is coming and he's readjusted his philosophy. Over the last 6 months, people's eyes have been open to the shadow banking system that everyone said didn't exist. Thats where the progress has been truly been made. As far as Beck endorsing a mainstream candidate, I'm not so sure. We'll have to wait and see. What that said, I don't think Beck is hijacking the Ron Paul movement but amplifying it. When was the last time, you heard the Constitution being dicussed on national television?

 

[mconder]

Why didn't Paul or C4L start something like this through the already existing meet-up groups.

That is the question of the ages. I was saying that from the beginning, but there was very little effort to convert the meetups to political action groups.

 

[mconder]

People, the MSM and the Republican party are hijacking Ron Paul, his revolution and our ideas for their own.

They are starting this thing early and they will whip it into a frenzy and by the end of the year, Beck will gently guide the idiot masses to THEIR new savior pick to run against O.

That is a prophecy I'd bet my life on. Time will tell.

 

[acptulsa]

That is the question of the ages. I was saying that from the beginning, but there was very little effort to convert the meetups to political action groups.

Ahh, who needs this done centrally? Ours has made that transition, and I like to think we're part of the reason why we have so many interesting things running around Oklahoma City--like the Tenth Amendment bill.

That is a prophecy I'd bet my life on. Time will tell.

I agree, but hopefully time won't tell--because hopefully we'll be wary and forearmed and will short circuit this plan.

 

[mconder]

They know that the vast majority of Americans are peaceful, even when pissed.
He is targeting the small minority of the radicals. They want someone to "GO OFF". That will give an excuse for a reaction.
Don't take the bait.

I think quit the opposite. I think there is good reason for the vast majority of Americans to "go off." I think Beck is in place to keep us inline.

 

[Feenix566]

So, just to recap: television and radio talk show hosts are starting to say things that we agree with. The Republican party is starting to say things that we agree with. And you're all angry about this because.... what again?

 

[Sandra]

Some are attempting to use the Beck arguement to hijack this movement. Beck didn't have anything to do with this when it started and doesn't now no matter what your stance on Beck is.