Ron SHOULD run as an Independent/3rd Party

[speciallyblend]

i totally agree

By the way, looks like Hillary has made a real comeback on the Dem side by winning in both Ohio and Texas. She still has a strong chance of winning their nomination. It would be utterly stupid not for Ron Paul to run if it's a Hillary-McCain race. That leaves such a bad taste in the mouths of independents that we would have a serious shot at capturing many of them. Not to mention the enraged anti-war Obama people who are feeling cheated by Hillary's underhanded tactics. Equally important, she would also stand a much better chance than Obama of getting trashed by McCain and losing due to her unpopularity. If that happens, the GOP loyalists can say goodbye to their reform attempts. The neo-cons will grin, sit back for the next four years, and have their position completely validated within the Republican Party, at least from the standpoint that it can etch out a victory.

If we get a Hillary-McCain race, Ron Paul is all but guaranteed to poll the 10-15% required to get into the debates with the two. Many here wanted him to continue on some vague assumption he would be able to speak to a national audience at the convention. Wouldn't it be twenty times better to have Ron Paul debating Hillary and McCain on a national stage, which we have a much better chance of achieving, if he will declare an independent run in the next few months?

THE REAL REPUBLICANS or maybe we need to call a new party something other then the r(it has been tarnished) maybe we can save the republican party ,if not we move on and continue our Revolution. the gop needs us to win a general election,we dont need them to continue the republican platform..

 

[colecrowe]

bump

 

[smartguy911]

Dr. Paul keeps saying he has no plans..damn he is saying it in English not French or Chinese. why o why some folks keep talking about this bs 3rd/indep crap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iti14BUEDQw

 

[colecrowe]

We have hope, we really believe in him, and we feel it is extremely important. Why are you here if you don't want him to be President. Why don't you tell him (all of you) that you will support him no matter what? Why don't you tell him that you will give tons of money to an independent campaign and work your buts off canvassing, etc.?

We should try to convince him. And before he and others say it can't be done (which is silly), how about run a couple infomercials and do a little campaiging, and then see what happens with the nationwide polls and what the reaction is.

Dr. Paul keeps saying he has no plans..damn he is saying it in English not French or Chinese. why o why some folks keep talking about this bs 3rd/indep crap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iti14BUEDQw

 

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Dr. Paul keeps saying he has no plans..damn he is saying it in English not French or Chinese. why o why some folks keep talking about this bs 3rd/indep crap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iti14BUEDQw

Ron Paul is also saying there's no chance of a brokered convention (as finally proven yesterday). Why is your crowd desperately clinging to the GOP nomination fantasy?

 

[colecrowe]

Obviously because they don't have hope, and they don't want to have to financially and otherwise support a real run for the presidency. And they don't care about the country.

If I was a wacko, illogical, conspiracy theorist like most the people on this forum, I would say they are all plants for the GOP.

Ron Paul is also saying there's no chance of a brokered convention (as finally proven yesterday). Why is your crowd desperately clinging to the GOP nomination fantasy?

 

[BigRedBrent]

we all dislike mccain but those kind of sentiments need to remain unspoken. bad form.

I don't think you know just how much people SHOULD dislike McCain. I never in my entire life thought I would hate someone more then Hillary Clinton.

This is WAR. Don't kid yourself, if we lose it will be every bit as devastating to us as if we had lost a bloody war. Get with it people, we are fighting not just for what we think is right, we are fighting for our very lives as a free people. Get off your ass and start fighting like your lives depend upon it, as they very well do, even if you will not understand why until you are kicking yourself for not seeing it in the future if we have lost.

This is not a political battle, this is a WAR that we are trying for now to win peacefully. If we do not win this war, we will have another war in the future (if true patriots still exist) that will not be so peaceful.

 

[IDefendThePlatform]

By the way, looks like Hillary has made a real comeback on the Dem side by winning in both Ohio and Texas. She still has a strong chance of winning their nomination. It would be utterly stupid not for Ron Paul to run if it's a Hillary-McCain race. That leaves such a bad taste in the mouths of independents that we would have a serious shot at capturing many of them. Not to mention the enraged anti-war Obama people who are feeling cheated by Hillary's underhanded tactics. Equally important, she would also stand a much better chance than Obama of getting trashed by McCain and losing due to her unpopularity. If that happens, the GOP loyalists can say goodbye to their reform attempts. The neo-cons will grin, sit back for the next four years, and have their position completely validated within the Republican Party, at least from the standpoint that it can etch out a victory.

If we get a Hillary-McCain race, Ron Paul is all but guaranteed to poll the 10-15% required to get into the debates with the two. Many here wanted him to continue on some vague assumption he would be able to speak to a national audience at the convention. Wouldn't it be twenty times better to have Ron Paul debating Hillary and McCain on a national stage, which we have a much better chance of achieving, if he will declare an independent run in the next few months?

Excellent points. The other thing we have going for us is that the economy is getting worse by the day and more and more people want real change this election. I agree, Hillary vs. McCain is an ideal setup for a Paul third party run.

I used to be in favor of an indy run, but I think from a ballot access standpoint it is better to go third party now that some of the deadlines have passed. If we can get the Constitution party to draft him as their nominee at their convention on April 26th in Kansas City, then the fun begins. Again.

Please contact Dr. P and BEG him to run third party:

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/contact/form

Also, consider contacting the constitution party and asking them to nominate Dr. P:

https://secure.giftwrapplus.org/cpnc/eu/contactus/

 

[Bro.Butch]

im voting ron paul in the general. if the gop fails to nominate him,then its up to us to run him or vote for someone else with his message which means outside of the 2 old parties.


anyone that says he wont or cant run outside of the party is giving up . it's up to us if he runs ,if he doesn't then the republican party will continue to self destruct then we can try to build within the party but if that failes in 4 yrs then we need to let them go away and build something new ,if there is anything left to build after the republican party destroys itself

Bravo,

 

[rvl]

the only way he could pull it off would be to have a huge backer/second seat candidate that could fund it. Without a large war chest, he would kill Mccain's chances, which I believe the better choice between the remaining candidates.

 

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

the only way he could pull it off would be to have a huge backer/second seat candidate that could fund it. Without a large war chest, he would kill Mccain's chances, which I believe the better choice between the remaining candidates.

Good. McCain needs to be annihilated by a Ron Paul or Bob Barr third party run. There is no hope of reforming the GOP if he wins.

 

[defe07]

I don't know if Dr. Paul would want to run as an Indy or 3rd party candidate, it's up to him. However, I wouldn't mind if we switched our support for other candidates that are pro-freedom like Jesse Ventura, Bob Barr or Gary Johnson. I think we should respect Dr. Paul's decision if he decides not to run as an Indy or 3rd party candidate but we could have him endorse a Ventura/Barr ticket or something like that.

 

[BigRedBrent]

I don't know if Dr. Paul would want to run as an Indy or 3rd party candidate, it's up to him. However, I wouldn't mind if we switched our support for other candidates that are pro-freedom like Jesse Ventura, Bob Barr or Gary Johnson. I think we should respect Dr. Paul's decision if he decides not to run as an Indy or 3rd party candidate but we could have him endorse a Ventura/Barr ticket or something like that.

I would only go for it if Ron Paul was appointed as the official head economic and foreign policy advisory.

 

[Meatwasp]

we all dislike mccain but those kind of sentiments need to remain unspoken. bad form.

I agree!!!

 

[liberteebell]

Dr. Paul keeps saying he has no plans..damn he is saying it in English not French or Chinese. why o why some folks keep talking about this bs 3rd/indep crap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iti14BUEDQw

Some of us are still talking about this "bs 3rd/indep crap" because we actually believe that our beloved country is on the fast track to destruction and this is our last and best chance to save it. So maybe I'm stupid. But Ron Pauls don't show up every day. I doubt that in my lifetime, there will be another chance like this.

By the way, I'm working to reform the republican party and have no plans to stop (at least until it becomes clear that the party can't be reformed) but I'd still 110% support an independent run by Ron Paul and I'm writing in Ron Paul no matter what.