Ron, Rand, Ted

robertwerden

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I live in Texas. A few years ago Ron sent people in Texas an email endorsing Ted. So as a ardent Ron Paul supporter I brought my family out to the polls and voted for Ted 3 times so he could be our Senator.

When Ted decided to run for President knowing that Rand was also, I thought Ted was being a dick. What a fucking ass to steal Pauls spot light. Ted flip flopped on liberty issues and stole lots of support that could have gone to Rand. Ted started talking like a neocon, and pissed me off.

Why would Ron endorse Ted? Has he ever endorsed people before that were fake like this? How could Ron be so wrong about Ted?

When I saw Ted win Iowa I thought to my self, 'well at least it was not Trump or Rubio'. Ya I was pissed the missing 15% of Rons vote went elsewhere, but I figured lesser evil was in the form of Ted.

Now Rand drops out after pledging to go onto NH. He said he would compete in NH, why would he say that and then drop out?

I imagine a discussion had to have happened between Rand and his staff. Money, momentum, polls? Something was the reason. Then I started thinking where his support would goto. Im not talking about the couple dozen of us who are still on these forums, i'm talking about the 5%. Obviously there are supporters who do not even come to this forum. Here we are a little more libertarian than most, the purists maybe? I feel a lot of people who are in that 5% will never go for Trump or Rubio. Carson maybe, but no one else. Ted is most likely to see the bump from transfered Paul support.

I started to think about the conversation Paul must have had again with his staff. Maybe there is a strategy? Is Paul dropping out to push support to Ted in order to block Trump and the others?

I don't know the answer, but I am going to do what it takes to block Trump and Rubio. I hope that is what Rand intends. If that means voting for Ted again, Ill do it. It might not be the right choice, but I can't handle Trump winning at all. I can deal with Ted though.
 
I live in Texas. A few years ago Ron sent people in Texas an email endorsing Ted. So as a ardent Ron Paul supporter I brought my family out to the polls and voted for Ted 3 times so he could be our Senator.

When Ted decided to run for President knowing that Rand was also, I thought Ted was being a dick. What a fucking ass to steal Pauls spot light. Ted flip flopped on liberty issues and stole lots of support that could have gone to Rand. Ted started talking like a neocon, and pissed me off.

Why would Ron endorse Ted? Has he ever endorsed people before that were fake like this? How could Ron be so wrong about Ted?

When I saw Ted win Iowa I thought to my self, 'well at least it was not Trump or Rubio'. Ya I was pissed the missing 15% of Rons vote went elsewhere, but I figured lesser evil was in the form of Ted.

Now Rand drops out after pledging to go onto NH. He said he would compete in NH, why would he say that and then drop out?

I imagine a discussion had to have happened between Rand and his staff. Money, momentum, polls? Something was the reason. Then I started thinking where his support would goto. Im not talking about the couple dozen of us who are still on these forums, i'm talking about the 5%. Obviously there are supporters who do not even come to this forum. Here we are a little more libertarian than most, the purists maybe? I feel a lot of people who are in that 5% will never go for Trump or Rubio. Carson maybe, but no one else. Ted is most likely to see the bump from transfered Paul support.

I started to think about the conversation Paul must have had again with his staff. Maybe there is a strategy? Is Paul dropping out to push support to Ted in order to block Trump and the others?

I don't know the answer, but I am going to do what it takes to block Trump and Rubio. I hope that is what Rand intends. If that means voting for Ted again, Ill do it. It might not be the right choice, but I can't handle Trump winning at all. I can deal with Ted though.


I'm not giving support to any of these power hungry egomaniacs. I am voting my conscience and electing to stay home this November.
 
The problem with Cruz is, even if you grant that he is marginally closer to our positions than Rubio or Trump, he is personally a piece of shit who will lose and discredit the right.
 
Rand dropped out because he's polling low in NH. Had he reached his goal of 3rd place like Rubio did instead, he could have went up like Rubio is about to.
 
Let the idiots have their idiot king. I want no part of that. I am going to work to make the congress just a little more hostile to whichever Fabian conquers the moron voters.
 
After the shenanigans I've read about Cruz pulling I wouldn't vote for him if he was running for dog catcher.
 
I live in Texas. A few years ago Ron sent people in Texas an email endorsing Ted. So as a ardent Ron Paul supporter I brought my family out to the polls and voted for Ted 3 times so he could be our Senator.

When Ted decided to run for President knowing that Rand was also, I thought Ted was being a dick. What a fucking ass to steal Pauls spot light. Ted flip flopped on liberty issues and stole lots of support that could have gone to Rand. Ted started talking like a neocon, and pissed me off.

Why would Ron endorse Ted? Has he ever endorsed people before that were fake like this? How could Ron be so wrong about Ted?

When I saw Ted win Iowa I thought to my self, 'well at least it was not Trump or Rubio'. Ya I was pissed the missing 15% of Rons vote went elsewhere, but I figured lesser evil was in the form of Ted.

Now Rand drops out after pledging to go onto NH. He said he would compete in NH, why would he say that and then drop out?

I imagine a discussion had to have happened between Rand and his staff. Money, momentum, polls? Something was the reason. Then I started thinking where his support would goto. Im not talking about the couple dozen of us who are still on these forums, i'm talking about the 5%. Obviously there are supporters who do not even come to this forum. Here we are a little more libertarian than most, the purists maybe? I feel a lot of people who are in that 5% will never go for Trump or Rubio. Carson maybe, but no one else. Ted is most likely to see the bump from transfered Paul support.

I started to think about the conversation Paul must have had again with his staff. Maybe there is a strategy? Is Paul dropping out to push support to Ted in order to block Trump and the others?

I don't know the answer, but I am going to do what it takes to block Trump and Rubio. I hope that is what Rand intends. If that means voting for Ted again, Ill do it. It might not be the right choice, but I can't handle Trump winning at all. I can deal with Ted though.


Never ever vote for the great pretender Ted Cruz
 
fuck ted cruz... ill vote for trump over that guy anyday
 
Ron probably just endorse ted cause hes a texas republican and somewhat could be liberty leaning.

I bet ron is hurting now deep inside. Never saw it coming.
 
Ron endorsing Ted Cruz was the biggest mistake of his life, a bigger mistake IMO than Rand endorsing Romney.

Sorry you got caught up in it.

Honestly I would prefer Trump over that snake Cruz with his Goldman Sachs, CFR and Bush buddies, but I'm not voting for anybody who hasn't suspended their campaign.
 
What would be awesome is if the establishment decides to ditch Cruz too soon and Rand steps back in the race.. but I don't have a good read on what the establishment actually wants. I'm not sure they hate Trump as much as we think they do.. May not be their first pick, but I'm sure they can deal with him.
 
Rand dropped out because he's polling low in NH. Had he reached his goal of 3rd place like Rubio did instead, he could have went up like Rubio is about to.
I never could see a clear path after Iowa being a bust. He would have polled low in SC and that's too long to go nowhere. I think the GOP configured this from the beginning with Ted as a blocker. They didn't count on Trump, who is completely destroying the GOP. Maybe from the ashes rises a Constitutional Party that turns the GOP back into the Whig Party.
 
What would be awesome is if the establishment decides to ditch Cruz too soon and Rand steps back in the race.. but I don't have a good read on what the establishment actually wants. I'm not sure they hate Trump as much as we think they do.. May not be their first pick, but I'm sure they can deal with him.

I have the Rand Paul path to victory right here (posted to FB):

"Trump loses in New Hampshire. FOX News takes the opportunity to announce his campaign "dead in the water".

In a childish fit of rage, Trump drops out and endorses Rand Paul. Angering FOX and confusing it's viewers.

Rand Paul shows up at the South Carolina debate in a t-shirt and a Bud in his hand. He delivers a Stone Cold Stunner to both Cruz & Rubio.

Wins South Carolina. History is made.

Fuck It 2016."
 
I'm going to vote for Cruz now. I'm not thrilled about it and won't be defending him. But I guess he is better than the other choices.
 
I'm going to vote for Cruz now. I'm not thrilled about it and won't be defending him. But I guess he is better than the other choices.

Congrats, I bet you will score high and not get a "Voting Violation".
 
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