Ron Paul's Mentor Larry McDonald on the CFR before his death.

[Rhys]

The thing is, if you read Confessions of an Ecconomic Hit Man, the way he died was standard M/O of the CIA at the time, for assasination.

Who knows the truth of the John Birch S.? Should I join?

 

[Benaiah]

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[MJfromCT]

Has anyone read the book Larry McDonald co-authored "We Hold These Truths"?

 

[lastnymleft]

And these days I've been saddened by the possibility that Ron Paul's run for presidency has probably been very compromised from within and without, and that there's a good possibility he has been ordered to take the fall and fizzle out peacefully, or else. Now I trust that Ron Paul is a brave and honorable man, and probably is not concerned with his own life. However, when it comes to family, that's another matter altogether. I'm quite sure he wouldn't allow his grandchildren to be harmed just so he could be president.

That's just nonsense. Dr Paul is not bought off, and couldn't be. The simple fact of the matter is that They believed They have him "contained" at present. They ordered the MSM blackout, and ridiculing, and it has worked. Only when he becomes a "serious" threat to them would they take it to the next level. If you have learned anything in having studied Dr Paul, it should have been that he could not have been bought off. Like Larry McDonald. So was Larry McDonald a real threat to the establishment? You bet your ass he was. Look at this guy, Larry McDonald:

* Born in 1935, within 5 months of Dr Paul
* Medical physician
* Flight surgeon
* Congressman
* An admirer of Austrian economics
* Aspiring Presidential candidate, was planning to run in 1988...against GHWB.

Freaky, huh?

This guy Larry McDonald is amazing:

http://behindthefed.blogspot.com/2007/11/assassination-of-congressman-larry.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_McDonald

Are there any such "Conservative Democrats" still in existence, or are they an extinct breed now?

 

[shane2]

http://www.jbs.org/

- Shane

 

[Mauiboy86]

My father has been a member of JBS for as long as I can remember, the organization is on the forefront of the battle for American sovereignty! The magazine called the NEWAMERICAN was the first to publish anything on the NAU and has helped make it visible to all of us even Lou Dobbs. I still think Lou Dobbs has an agenda and is manipulated by the MSM, he may even be a puppet. Remember they need two sides of the news to have an argument. If Dobbs was a true patriot he would be spewing Ron Paul from every orifice on live television.
The website http://www.jbs.org/ even helps you write letters to your senetors and reps directly on their website. It only takes a minute to write , and then in a week or two you get a letter back from your senetors saying how much of a jackass they are because they support the Lost Treaty because its good for America, their names are Lindsay Graham and Jim Demint! A bunch of ASSCLOWNS IMHO!

 

[beachmaster]

That's just nonsense. Dr Paul is not bought off, and couldn't be. The simple fact of the matter is that They believed They have him "contained" at present. They ordered the MSM blackout, and ridiculing, and it has worked. Only when he becomes a "serious" threat to them would they take it to the next level. If you have learned anything in having studied Dr Paul, it should have been that he could not have been bought off. Like Larry McDonald. So was Larry McDonald a real threat to the establishment? You bet your ass he was. Look at this guy, Larry McDonald:

* Born in 1935, within 5 months of Dr Paul
* Medical physician
* Flight surgeon
* Congressman
* An admirer of Austrian economics
* Aspiring Presidential candidate, was planning to run in 1988...against GHWB.

Freaky, huh?

This guy Larry McDonald is amazing:

http://behindthefed.blogspot.com/2007/11/assassination-of-congressman-larry.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_McDonald

Are there any such "Conservative Democrats" still in existence, or are they an extinct breed now?

I never said nor implied that Dr. Paul was "bought off".

I said his family may have been threatened. Big difference.

 

[Ex Post Facto]

I never knew about the JBS. I just might have to join it. They even have a summer camp for kids. Awesome looking organization.

 

[shane2]

In the early 70's the book that introduced me, and thousands of others, to the NWO and CFR and exposed the biased media, and inoculated me for-life against all things liberal and anti-Constitutional, was "NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY" by Gary Allen.

This slim, quick read, paperback book was offered close to at cost with generous quantity discounts and well over 5 million copies were produced and distributed, often given away for free. I bought dozens myself and gave them away back then.

See/read it free here on-line...
http://reactor-core.org/none-dare.html
...and you'll be amazed how timely this 35 year old book still is, though decades more proof could now be added to it.

Here's some quotes from others about the NDCC book back then...

I wish that every citizen of every country in the free world and every slave behind the Iron Curtain might read this book.

Ezra Taft Benson — Former Secretary of Agriculture

NDCC is an admirable job of amassing information to prove that communism is socialism and socialism (a plot to enslave the world) is not a movement of the downtrodden but a scheme supported and directed by the wealthiest of people.

If enough Americans read and act upon NDCC, they really can save the Republic from the conspirators — whose plans for the destruction of our country are galloping fast toward completion.

Dan Smoot — Former Assistant to J. Edgar Hoover

Now that NDCC is available, I no longer need to answer "no" to the question which is often put to me, namely: "Mr. Dodd, is there a book which I can read so I can know what you know?" No higher praise is possible for this book.

Norman Dodd — Chief Investigator Reece Committee to Investigate Foundations

This book concerns the way in which our nation and other nations are actually governed. As Benjamin Disaeli said, this is not the way in which most people think nations are governed. The whole subject of the Insiders who so largely control our political and economic lives is a fascinating mystery.

For the reader who is intelligent but uninitiated in the literature of superpolitics, I can think of no better introduction to the field than NDCC.

Dr. Medford Evans — Former Chief of Security for the Atom Bomb Project

Since people of the Jewish faith have been the number one historical victims of the Communist Conspiracy, we wish every member of our faith would carefully read this book so they will become aware of the forces which often attempt to manipulate them.

Dr. Barney Finkel — President, The Jewish Right

Whatever one dares to call the apparatus described and documented in this book, he will ignore it at his peril. 1972 may well be our last chance to defuse this destructive device. This book tells you how you can expose and demolish it.

Dean Clarence E. Manion — Former Dean Notre Dame law School


- Shane

 

[Fox McCloud]

I've been inundated with papers written about the JBS and how bad they are...and how they're part of the "right wing" of the Hegelian Dialectic (Anothony Sutton wrote about this)...there's some guy named "Ernie" who's supposedly obtained many documents about them from the FBI via FOIA....

*sigh* there's so much evidence on both side FOR the JBS and AGAINST them, that I don't know what to think...on the surface, I support them, but is there something sinister at work? Either way, I can provide the various article for you guys to debunk (I'd love for you to)...but it's just all so confusing. I often think, however, there are is so much disinformation fused with true information that the end result is to get someone like me in this situation--they're do disillusioned they don't know what to think.

Either way, the JBS did go up by about 2 levels, in my book, after reading that Alan Stang article said and watching the interview.

I've long been a supporter of the JBS, but after coming across some information, I'm slightly skeptical....if I could find some evidence to point to the fact that they're "ok", however...then I may actually think about joining them (which I've thought about doing off and on in the past).

*sigh* My head is freaking spinning.

 

[0zzy]

I've been inundated with papers written about the JBS and how bad they are...and how they're part of the "right wing" of the Hegelian Dialectic (Anothony Sutton wrote about this)...there's some guy named "Ernie" who's supposedly obtained many documents about them from the FBI via FOIA....

*sigh* there's so much evidence on both side FOR the JBS and AGAINST them, that I don't know what to think...on the surface, I support them, but is there something sinister at work? Either way, I can provide the various article for you guys to debunk (I'd love for you to)...but it's just all so confusing. I often think, however, there are is so much disinformation fused with true information that the end result is to get someone like me in this situation--they're do disillusioned they don't know what to think.

Either way, the JBS did go up by about 2 levels, in my book, after reading that Alan Stang article said and watching the interview.

I've long been a supporter of the JBS, but after coming across some information, I'm slightly skeptical....if I could find some evidence to point to the fact that they're "ok", however...then I may actually think about joining them (which I've thought about doing off and on in the past).

*sigh* My head is freaking spinning.

post what you saw agains tthem

 

[shane2]

The JBS bi-weekly publication; 'The New American' is well worth checking out.
There's a link here to a free copy of a special issue dealing with the NAU...
http://www.thenewamerican.com/node/6230

Here's what one avid reader thinks about it...

"I receive The New American in my Congressional office and consider it a valuable source of information.
Its writers have produced groundbreaking research on a number of topics ... often much in advance of the mainstream media."
—Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX)

- Shane

 

[beachmaster]

In the early 70's the book that introduced me, and thousands of others, to the NWO and CFR and exposed the biased media, and inoculated me for-life against all things liberal and anti-Constitutional, was "NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY" by Gary Allen.

This slim, quick read, paperback book was offered close to at cost with generous quantity discounts and well over 5 million copies were produced and distributed, often given away for free. I bought dozens myself and gave them away back then.

See/read it free here on-line...
http://reactor-core.org/none-dare.html
...and you'll be amazed how timely this 35 year old book still is, though decades more proof could now be added to it.

I think that was my 2nd conspiracy book that I read back in the late 70's. The first one I read was The Invisible Government by Dan Smoot. Published by American Opinion (JBS publisher). I bought a lot of copies of NDCC at used book stores, everywhere I found them and passed them out. Some people called me a nazi! lol

I also had joined JBS and was a card carrying member. Later I heard they were severely compromised and their member list was given to the feds. I don't think they are as good as they once were, but then again, I've not kept up with it in a very long time.

 

[malibuu]

I never knew there was such a conspiracy...sheesh.

It's Amazin'
With the blink of an eye you finally see the light

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0Q1r8rh8yc

 

[shane2]

I think that was my 2nd conspiracy book that I read back in the late 70's. The first one I read was The Invisible Government by Dan Smoot. Published by American Opinion (JBS publisher). I bought a lot of copies of NDCC at used book stores, everywhere I found them and passed them out.

When I was a goofy teenage sophomore back in the very early 70's, everybody was 'into' some 'cause' or another, especially if you wanted to have something to brag to the girls about, other than 'your sign'. So, I was kinda trolling around checking out the anti-war movement, civil rights movement, and the whole new 'earth day' environmental movement, ect., though nothing had really struck my fancy.

Anyways, right at that crucial time, at the NY State Fair of all places, I stumbled across a booth there where they were actually giving out free books to anybody that visited with them a bit, liked that right away being a voracious reader, and it turned out to be the JBS, which I'd never heard of.

Went home that day with a copy of 'None Dare Call It Conspiracy' and 'Major Jordan's Diaries' and that started a lot of good reading and JBS tapes and seminars and I joined up. I have been cured ever since of the liberal media BS and liberal 'stinkin thinkin' so many others, less fortunate, are forever mired in and blinded by.

Thank God for the JBS pointing me in the right direction so early on!

- Shane

 

[Fox McCloud]

The more I find out about this "Ernie" the stranger he is--the ONLY time I ever see him posting on the Internet, it's always about tearing down the JBS and propping up the FBI files he's obtained---I have yet to see him post anything other than this (and he's posted a decent amount). His full name is "Ernie Lazar"--you'll come up with a decent amount if you Google that....also if you google "ernie JBS" and other like combinations, you'll come up with like information..it even appears he bashed them on Amazon.com

http://birchers.blogspot.com/2005/10/fbi-on-john-birch-society.html
http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/jbs-1

Interestingly enough, he's cited as being an "acknowledgement" in the book "Right-Wing Populism in America: Too Close for Comfort".....I haven't read the book, but it'd be interesting to see if it props up liberal ideologies.

Like I said, I'm not presenting these to bash them, myself--I'd just prefer someone debunk/provide a logical explanation for this.

 

[Fox McCloud]

This guy also goes by "ernie1241", and again, you'll find that 95% of his posts are regurgitating how bad conspiracies theories are (and how they're really politically driven) and how the JBS is bad...and he always points it to his website.

It also appears he's no fan of Ron Paul either, as he posted this: http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.politics/2008-01/msg02648.html

on a newsgroup site.

 

[Mauiboy86]

 

[Zydeco]

After the Changes come and the Constitution is restored, the truth of Larry McDonald's assassination is going to be one of the things that shocks and enrages Americans the most.

 

[MJfromCT]

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