Ron Paul Write-in Info: CA, NY, MI, PA, WI, ME, VA Deadlines (152 Electoral Votes)

[sailingaway]

None of the above votes will however, be counted, and Ron Paul's votes, if not separately counted, would be in those. So it depends on if none of the above, or a vote for Johnson, says more what you want to say, assuming Ron's vote isn't counted in your area.

In PA though, people could go into the counties and count them, since write ins are officially 'accepted'.

 

[svf]

You are entitled to your protest vote but so are others to make a different one. The difference between the votes named candidates get and the overall number of votes is tracked, everywhere. That is a number showing people who cared enough to vote, who didn't like any of the choices.

By all means do whatever you want for whatever reasons you want - but I've seen this statement here a number of times now and feel compelled to point out that you will be hard pressed to find the "undervote" for president or any other offices reported anywhere other than the deep, dark recesses of your state's Board of Elections files. This is a fairly common occurrence, of course - usually it's people not voting in the "lower ballot" local offices/judges etc. and I have never seen it publicly reported or remarked upon in the media or anywhere else for that matter.

I say this based upon my experience running for office myself, researching vote counts / petition requirements and filing a lawsuit (unsuccessfully) arguing that petition requirements for 3rd party candidates should be based on number of votes cast for a given office rather than total ballots (of course the votes cast for the office were far less than total ballots which would have reduced signature requirement).

Cheers

 

[sailingaway]

By all means do whatever you want for whatever reasons you want - but I've seen this statement here a number of times now and feel compelled to point out that you will be hard pressed to find the "undervote" for president or any other offices reported anywhere other than the deep, dark recesses of your state's Board of Elections files. This is a fairly common occurrence, of course - usually it's people not voting in the "lower ballot" local offices/judges etc. and I have never seen it publicly reported or remarked upon in the media or anywhere else for that matter.

I say this based upon my experience running for office myself, researching vote counts / petition requirements and filing a lawsuit (unsuccessfully) arguing that petition requirements for 3rd party candidates should be based on number of votes cast for a given office rather than total ballots (of course the votes cast for the office were far less than total ballots which would have reduced signature requirement).

Cheers

It's usually on the clerk's web site the same as the third party vote.

 

[svf]

OK, I called Lebanon County Board of Elections, spoke to Nick this time, he says the only way I can see or find the total write-ins for a candidate being Mickey Mouse or Ron Paul is to make an appointment and go to his office. Then I would have to tally up and number figure total write-in votes myself. You can't see them unless you go to his office. I don't have time to do this today, but I'd like to know the total write-ins for Ron Paul in 2008 for my county.

I wish this stuff was viewable online .. darn it.

If you're looking for the 2008 Ron Paul write-in votes in Pennsylvania (or anywhere else) it's here: http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2008/2008pres.pdf

PENNSYLVANIA
(21 Electoral Votes)
Obama, Barack D 3,276,363 54.49%
McCain, John R 2,655,885 44.17%
Nader, Ralph I 42,977 0.71%
Barr, Bob LBT 19,912 0.33%
Scattered W 8,180 0.14%
Clinton, Hillary W 5,014 0.08%
Paul, Ron W 3,849 0.06%
Baldwin, Chuck W 1,092 0.02%

Note the only states that counted Ron Paul write-ins were PA, CA, IL, NH & RI. (He was on the ballot in MT and LA - although he asked to be removed - and of course those votes were also counted.)

[ edit ] looks like you're only interested in one county though, so I bet you would have to go down there and dig ...

 

[svf]

It's usually on the clerk's web site the same as the third party vote.

I'm not seeing any such thing here, for example... http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/sov/2006_general/

But maybe you know something I don't. Of course you could go through and do the math and figure how how many people didn't cast votes for a given office compared to total votes cast...

 

[sailingaway]

If you go to the county level you will, that is how I found Ron's vote number last time. He was a certified write in candidate in California as I expect he will be this year as well.

 

[sailingaway]

Looking quickly I'm not finding what I found after bugging them to count Ron's but I'm sure it is on there somewhere. It was a compilation of undervote and then a breakdown of the certified write ins.

However, even looking quickly there was this, showing ballots cast, then how many to each of the named candidates. Simple math does the rest. http://www.lavote.net/VOTER/PDFS/STATEMENT_VOTES_CAST/11042008_SVC_1.pdf

 

[sailingaway]

Here was the list of write in candidates from 2008, if you scroll to the second page you will see Ron Paul: http://www.lavote.net/Voter/PDFS/ELECTION_RELATED/11042008_LIST_WRITE_IN_CANDIDATES.pdf

however when they reported the write ins, a week later or so after I'd sent a few emails and they probably heard from others as well, they reported the undervote not assigned to anyone also.

 

[sailingaway]

If you're looking for the 2008 Ron Paul write-in votes in Pennsylvania (or anywhere else) it's here: http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2008/2008pres.pdf



Note the only states that counted Ron Paul write-ins were PA, CA, IL, NH & RI. (He was on the ballot in MT and LA - although he asked to be removed - and of course those votes were also counted.)

[ edit ] looks like you're only interested in one county though, so I bet you would have to go down there and dig ...

But the count that started this discussion was the count between the number of voters total and the sum of the named candidates, which is the number of people who voted and refused all presidential candidates on the ballot. That number is in all states, and suits me better as a none of the above vote than voting for a different person I don't want.

 

[CPUd]

By all means do whatever you want for whatever reasons you want - but I've seen this statement here a number of times now and feel compelled to point out that you will be hard pressed to find the "undervote" for president or any other offices reported anywhere other than the deep, dark recesses of your state's Board of Elections files. This is a fairly common occurrence, of course - usually it's people not voting in the "lower ballot" local offices/judges etc. and I have never seen it publicly reported or remarked upon in the media or anywhere else for that matter.

I say this based upon my experience running for office myself, researching vote counts / petition requirements and filing a lawsuit (unsuccessfully) arguing that petition requirements for 3rd party candidates should be based on number of votes cast for a given office rather than total ballots (of course the votes cast for the office were far less than total ballots which would have reduced signature requirement).

Cheers

You're right- the undervote is not something that gets discussed very much. That is because over hundreds of elections in a county, it stays relatively consistent. Were an anomaly to occur, there would be interested parties to point it out:




Particularly when the trend during Presidential years is for the 'other' offices to have the undervotes, and this year, those are somehow dwarfed by Presidential undervote.

 

[ronpaulfollower999]

So after further looking into it, I learned that there was only one write-in candidate in Florida (back in 08), and the others (Clinton, Paul, Mouse, Jesus) were accidentally released by some counties.

Meh.

I'm split between writing in Ron Paul, or leaving my entire ballot blank.

 

[opal]

Several of the states require name and address of BOTH Pres and VP. What are you folks that can do countable write ins doing about a VP candidate????

 

[sailingaway]

Several of the states require name and address of BOTH Pres and VP. What are you folks that can do countable write ins doing about a VP candidate????

I'm trying to find out if a filing has already been done, as a letter to the editor in Napa Valley said. If it has, there will be a VP. Last time in CA it was Gail Lightfoot because she put the effort together. If I end up putting the effort together I'll bring it up with the other electors. I don't think it makes a lot of difference.

 

[James_Madison_Lives]

Several of the states require name and address of BOTH Pres and VP. What are you folks that can do countable write ins doing about a VP candidate????

It doesn't matter much, just someone who meets the citizenship and age requirements. Must be at least 35 I believe.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

How about Judge Nap?

Are these 7 states the only ones where we can still be a write in on the ballot?

-t