Ron Paul-"Warmongering" On Iran Sounds Like Lead-Up to Iraq War

[bobbyw24]

Congressman Ron Paul says the neo-conservative "warmongering" on Iran sounds suspiciously like the talk leading up to the war in Iraq. He also says sanctions against Iran for their nuclear ambitions would not help to alleviate the situation. Watch more:

YouTube - Ron Paul on Iran

http://www.opposingviews.com/articles/video-ron-paul-warmongering-on-iran-sounds-like-lead-up-to-iraq-war-r-1254248512

 

[Objectivist]

I found a solution to the Iran question.... park three Ohio class Submarines in the Indian Ocean and the Arabian Sea, tell Iran that they can build anything they want, fuel, missiles, nukes, blow-up dolls/////// anything. If they launch anything across Iraq or over Iraqi airspace we unload all three Ohio Subs on them. End of story.

Isn't that in fact what we did with the former USSR? But in this case we wouldn't really have to worry about Iran doing any damage to us..... it would however be the end of Iran.

Reality is that one SSBN could eliminate Iran and a few other countries.

 

[teacherone]

I found a solution to the Iran question.... park three Ohio class Submarines in the Indian Ocean and the Arabian Sea, tell Iran that they can build anything they want, fuel, missiles, nukes, blow-up dolls/////// anything. If they launch anything across Iraq or over Iraqi airspace we unload all three Ohio Subs on them. End of story.

Isn't that in fact what we did with the former USSR? But in this case we wouldn't really have to worry about Iran doing any damage to us..... it would however be the end of Iran.

Reality is that one SSBN could eliminate Iran and a few other countries.

umm... you really want to coax Iran into beginning a war?

How would this further the cause of liberty in any way?

 

[romeno182]

couldnt agree more with ron paul

 

[ClayTrainor]

I found a solution to the Iran question.... park three Ohio class Submarines in the Indian Ocean and the Arabian Sea, tell Iran that they can build anything they want, fuel, missiles, nukes, blow-up dolls/////// anything. If they launch anything across Iraq or over Iraqi airspace we unload all three Ohio Subs on them. End of story.

Why not watch North Korea, Pakistan and Sri Lanka this closely as well, or do you advocate that? they could all be arguably as dangerous as Iran, when considering Pakistan's nukes, North Korea's foolish arrogance and Sri Lanka's "Tamil Tigers".

Isn't that in fact what we did with the former USSR? But in this case we wouldn't really have to worry about Iran doing any damage to us..... it would however be the end of Iran.

You know there's a lot of good people in Iran, who don't want war, right?

Reality is that one SSBN could eliminate Iran and a few other countries.

Yup, but the morality of it is a major issue.

 

[Objectivist]

umm... you really want to coax Iran into beginning a war?

How would this further the cause of liberty in any way?

Coax? How's that? We have ships in the Persian Gulf now, moving Subs from Diego Garcia in to that region of the IO wouldn't be an act of aggression or a threat, just a deterrence like the one we had with the USSR. If being in neighboring countries isn't coaxing them then sitting in international waters shouldn't be a problem. BUT! if they so much as sneezed wrong they;'d be done for good. SO let them be free to build whatever they choose and then they can make up their own minds in how to use technology.

The way it sits now that little dipshit goes on TV and makes a scene about the US being in Iraq and Afghanistan. SO we could leave and he'd have nobody to shake his fist at.

 

[Objectivist]

Why not watch North Korea, Pakistan and Sri Lanka this closely as well, or do you advocate that? they could all be arguably as dangerous as Iran.



You know there's a lot of good people in Iran, who don't want war, right?



Yup, but the morality of it is a major issue.

Completely moral to destroy ones enemy if that enemy attacks you first.
We do watch North Korea.... we have 35,000 troops in South Korea.
We do watch Pakistan..... we are in Afghanistan and India is our friend.
Does Sri Lanka have nukes too?

There's a lot of good people in every country that don't want war, I don't.

 

[teacherone]

The way it sits now that little dipshit goes on TV and makes a scene about the US being in Iraq and Afghanistan. SO we could leave and he'd have nobody to shake his fist at.

There you go! Hit the nail right on the head. Why don't we just leave, remove all the soldiers from all the bases and bring them home.

That, more than anything would further the cause of liberty.

 

[ClayTrainor]

Completely moral to destroy ones enemy if that enemy attacks you first.

What about sanctions and pre-emptive strategies?

IMO, It is only moral to go after those responsible, and who contributed to the attack. I don't know what to believe about 911 but, if Bin Laden and his cronies were the main suspects, the gov. should've put a massive bounty on his head and sent special ops teams looking for him vs scatter troops in dangerous grounds for a decade. Bombing the living shit out of Afghan cities, and depleting more innocent lives than enemies, is not justified simply because some of the Hijackers were from Afghanistan, and Bin Laden was an organizer.

In the same respect, putting sanctions on the entire nation of Iran is not justified just because they want to pursue nuclear technology. Sanctions are really an act of war.

We do watch North Korea.... we have 35,000 troops in South Korea.

But do you advocate that, is more of my concern.

We do watch Pakistan..... we are in Afghanistan and India is our friend.

Sounds about right....

Does Sri Lanka have nukes too?

I'm really not sure, do they? I just know the Tamil Tigers originate in Sri Lanka and they are one of the most dangerous terrorism groups in the world.

 

[Objectivist]

There you go! Hit the nail right on the head. Why don't we just leave, remove all the soldiers from all the bases and bring them home.

That, more than anything would further the cause of liberty.

I never suggested that going to Iraq or Afghanistan was a good idea or constitutional for that matter. But I know how we can defuse that little shit in Iran. It would be like neutering the crazy dog down the street. He wouldn't have anyone to demonize. Let him build his bomb. Then sit back and wait at a distance where he can't see you.

We have satellites that can take out missiles too.

 

[Objectivist]

What about sanctions and pre-emptive strategies?

IMO, It is only moral to go after those responsible, and who contributed to the attack. I don't know what to believe about 911 but, if Bin Laden and his cronies were the main suspects, the gov. should've put a massive bounty on his head and sent special ops teams looking for him vs scatter troops in dangerous grounds for a decade. Bombing the living shit out of Afghan cities, and depleting more innocent lives than enemies, is not justified simply because some of the Hijackers were from Afghanistan, and Bin Laden was an organizer.

In the same respect, putting sanctions on the entire nation of Iran is not justified just because they want to pursue nuclear technology. Sanctions are really an act of war.




But do you advocate that, is more of my concern.


Sounds about right....



I'm really not sure, do they? I just know the Tamil Tigers originate in Sri Lanka and they are one of the most dangerous terrorism groups in the world.

Lift the sanctions.... kill him with kindness and sell them Coca-Cola.
The 9/11 pilots were from Saudi Arabia, most of them.
We shouldn't be in South Korea either.

How would you suggest taking out a small group that runs the entire country of Iran? I like my way because the burden is on them and our Sub drivers go on patrol for three months at a time anyway. Why not patrol the IO and be on standby if Iran acts stupid? He's saber rattling so we leave and he has no demon. Well he'll demonize Israel, but they can launch on him too.

 

[ClayTrainor]

Lift the sanctions.... kill him with kindness and sell them Coca-Cola.
The 9/11 pilots were from Saudi Arabia, most of them.
We shouldn't be in South Korea either.

Agreed, 100%

How would you suggest taking out a small group that runs the entire country of Iran?

I wouldn't want to, especially if they are democratically elected in any shape or form, because of the inevitable blowback that would ensue. Only if those individuals specifically were responsible for harm caused to american(s) on American soil (or a justified purpose in another nation), would it be justified to go after them.

I like my way because the burden is on them and our Sub drivers go on patrol for three months at a time anyway. Why not patrol the IO and be on standby if Iran acts stupid? He's saber rattling so we leave and he has no demon. Well he'll demonize Israel, but they can launch on him too.

There's certainly nothing wrong with being prepared and cautious, but we should not try to stand in their way, until they actually do something seriously threatening or wrong. As Ron Paul says, they can't even produce their own gas. they are not a military threat to the States.

They simply will rattle that saber even more, the more America rattles it back, and their people will support their own government even more (due to blowback) if America oppresses the nation in any way, like they did with Iraq.

 

[Protista910]

Thomas Jefferson said "Commerce and friendship with all nations, alliance with none". Why are we aligning ourselves in support for Israel and their warmongering Zionist buddies? This is a dupe like Iraq. The corporate controlled media will hype it up and have the sheep-like public foaming at the mouth. Keep the video above at high ratings, we want this to go viral.

Remember, we're paying for the wars that they keep pulling off.

 

[Bucjason]

There's really no good way to handle this.I don't know what the hell we should do...

 

[BlackTerrel]

I disagree with RP on this one. It was quite obvious we were going to war with Iraq shortly after 9/11. I would be shocked if we went to war with Iran now.

 

[LibForestPaul]

Coax? How's that? We have ships in the Persian Gulf now, moving Subs from Diego Garcia in to that region of the IO wouldn't be an act of aggression or a threat, just a deterrence like the one we had with the USSR. If being in neighboring countries isn't coaxing them then sitting in international waters shouldn't be a problem. BUT! if they so much as sneezed wrong they;'d be done for good. SO let them be free to build whatever they choose and then they can make up their own minds in how to use technology.

The way it sits now that little dipshit goes on TV and makes a scene about the US being in Iraq and Afghanistan. SO we could leave and he'd have nobody to shake his fist at.

LOL deterrence... Bring the boys home. End imperialism. End world police powers.

 

[Uriel999]

I found a solution to the Iran question.... park three Ohio class Submarines in the Indian Ocean and the Arabian Sea, tell Iran that they can build anything they want, fuel, missiles, nukes, blow-up dolls/////// anything. If they launch anything across Iraq or over Iraqi airspace we unload all three Ohio Subs on them. End of story.

Isn't that in fact what we did with the former USSR? But in this case we wouldn't really have to worry about Iran doing any damage to us..... it would however be the end of Iran.

Reality is that one SSBN could eliminate Iran and a few other countries.

I lol'd. And actually agree. It is called deterrence and our response would be something called "blowback." Let them build all the nukes they want and leave them be though unless they fuck with us. That is called the just war theory.

 

[paulitics]

I disagree with RP on this one. It was quite obvious we were going to war with Iraq shortly after 9/11. I would be shocked if we went to war with Iran now.

No, it was quite obvious we were going to war with Iraq before George w Bush was elected president. 8 years of sanctions, legislation for regime change and propaganda preceded a land invasion.

We are not invading Iran because it wouldn't be prudent at this time, not because we aren't going to do it. We already have sanctions, regime change legislation, massive propaganda, etc.

Since America is war weary with 2 different debacles going on, it is going to take alot to get the masses to support this one.

 

[Liberty Star]

Neocon fringe is crawlng out of their holes again but mostl likely would get stomped on by majority now angery at them due to recession and massive deficits they have caused.