"Political agendas perceived as extremist often include those from the far left or far right as well as fundamentalism or, as a more general term, fanaticism."
"a tendency or disposition to go to extremes or an instance of going to extremes, especially in political matters: leftist extremism; the extremism of the Nazis."
"a person who favours or resorts to immoderate, uncompromising, or fanatical methods or behaviour, esp in being politically radical"
Come on newbitech, I thought you were better than that. Guess not.
False left right paradigm, which leads to
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For some twenty centuries Western man has come to accept the Aristotelian theory that the sensible position is between any two extremes, known politically today as the “middle-of-the-road” position. Now, if libertarians use the terms “left” and “right,” they announce themselves to be extreme right by virtue of being extremely distant in their beliefs from communism. But “right” has been successfully identified with fascism. Therefore, more and more persons are led to believe that the sound position is somewhere between communism and fascism, both spelling authoritarianism.
The golden-mean theory cannot properly be applied indiscriminately. For instance, it is sound enough when deciding between no food at all on the one hand or gluttony on the other hand. But it is patently unsound when deciding between stealing nothing or stealing $1,000. The golden mean would commend stealing $500. Thus, the golden mean has no more soundness when applied to communism and fascism (two names for the same thing) than it does to two amounts in theft.” [...]
Libertarians reject this principle and in so doing are not to the right or left of authoritarians. They, as the human spirit they would free, ascend—are above—this degradation. Their position, if directional analogies are to be used, is up—in the sense that vapor from a muckheap rises to a wholesome atmosphere.
If the idea of extremity is to be applied to a libertarian, let it be based on how extremely well he has shed himself of authoritarian beliefs.
Establish this concept of emerging, of freeing — which is the meaning of libertarianism—and the golden – mean or “middle-of-the-road” theory becomes inapplicable. For there can be no halfway position between zero and infinity. It is absurd to suggest that there can be.
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Neither Left nor Right, Leonard Read
Maybe Ron Paul is perceived as an extremist because some of his supporters are? Maybe Ron Paul's ideas of liberty are extreme because the country and world has lurched so far away from true liberty?
Just because you and I don't consider liberty and freedom to be extremist views, doesn't mean they aren't. It't called respecting other folks opinions and ideas even if they are radically different from our own. You do this by listening and understanding where someone is coming from. Not by belittling them, not by throwing daggers at their support, and certainly not by holding up someone else's ideas, words, and opinions in a way that makes them look like something they are not.
You're wrong in labeling them 'extremist', so is the rest of the country. Appeal to popularity fallacy.
Now, Conza, I know you have a completely different definition of extremism right? You are going to tell me again that the definition I used is wrong because the source is wrong. So lets have it, go ahead and define extremism for me. While your at it, go ahead and go back to those other definitions I provided and gives us the correct definitions for those as well. In the mean time, I will contact the publishers of these other sources and tell them that Conza said they are full of shit. Nah, not really, but it might not be that ridiculous or extreme thing to do, pending your investigation of what words mean, of course.
No, because it is illogical and a fallacy - false paradigm. OR do you DISAGREE with that the left / right paradigm is false? Do you disagree with Ron Paul? Aye?
I use the standard libertarian conception, as accepted by Ron Paul, and others here. Don't know why you don't. Just a way to continue arguing no doubt.
I'm not an extremeist, nor is Ron Paul. We are however, radicals - latin for 'strike at the root' cause. I.e Address the actual problem.
The notion that a radical is one who hates his country is naïve and usually idiotic. He is, more likely, one who likes his country more than the rest of us, and is thus more disturbed than the rest of us when he sees it debauched. He is not a bad citizen turning to crime; he is a good citizen driven to despair.
— H.L. Mencken (Letter to Upton Sinclair, October 14, 1917)