Ron Paul: "Trump, in spite of his bombast, is a fraud."

[RootBeerExplosion]

No they aren't.

One could support the LP and/or focus on Congressional, state, and local races.

And of course there are many things to do outside electoral politics, such as education.

QFT

 

[fr33]

Hillary, during October 2015, has said she wants door to door gun confiscations like what happened in Australia.

Trump many years ago said he supports the assault weapons ban but has recently said he doesn't.

You can't trust either of them. Maybe I should root for Hillary so we can get the bloodiest civil war ever started. Imagine getting the opportunity at killing Hillary's federal agents in your front yard.

I do think that Donald is more likely to appoint slightly better supreme court justices than Hillary is.

I also think that we are going to have to deal with this shitty government we are dealt while Ron is busy selling gold and other doomsday products.

 

[fr33]

I also think that we are going to have to deal with this shitty government we are dealt while Ron is busy selling gold and other doomsday products.

In case anyone's wondering what I meant by that; hey you've got $millions$ more than us poor saps you were asking for money a few years ago. Maybe if you actually meant revolution, you could try some supreme court cases. Rather than selling us doomsday fear products on the tv commercials. (Is that not bombastic?)

 

[GunnyFreedom]

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take."

There is a pretty big difference between taking a shot and gently passing the puck to the opposing goalie.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

In case anyone's wondering what I meant by that; hey you've got $millions$ more than us poor saps you were asking for money a few years ago. Maybe if you actually meant revolution, you could try some supreme court cases. Rather than selling us doomsday fear products on the tv commercials. (Is that not bombastic?)

Have you considered the possibility that he genuinely thinks a terrible calamity is on it's way and he is willing to sacrifice some of his reputation to inspire some people to at least try and prepare? Maybe he doesn't research the guy he's promoting as much as he should, but that's been his pattern for life.

 

[timosman]

Have you considered the possibility that he genuinely thinks a terrible calamity is on it's way and he is willing to sacrifice some of his reputation to inspire some people to at least try and prepare?

Chicken little?

Maybe he doesn't research the guy he's promoting as much as he should, but that's been his pattern for life.

Thank you for reminding me of Benton.

 

[ProBlue33]

That was a good video, and as always Ron makes sense, but here is the thing at the end he says we need a leader that promotes liberty, we tried getting that leader elected in 2008, 2012 and 2016 and failed all three times.

If your being chased by rabid wolves and you come to a body of water with 3 boats, and you try the first boat because it's the best it's a shinny speed boat, but it just won't start. So you get out and try the next one it's a fishing boat with small motor but it won't start either, lastly there is a rusty old canoe with one paddle, the wolves are getting closer, you rather have had been able to use the other two boats, but you can see the wolves closing in you, so you climb into that dirty old canoe and paddle away.

Sorry Ron, we need to live to fight another day first.

 

[CaptUSA]

That was a good video, and as always Ron makes sense, but here is the thing at the end he says we need a leader that promotes liberty, we tried getting that leader elected in 2008, 2012 and 2016 and failed all three times.

If your being chased by rabid wolves and you come to a body of water with 3 boats, and you try the first boat because it's the best it's a shinny speed boat, but it just won't start. So you get out and try the next one it's a fishing boat with small motor but it won't start either, lastly there is a rusty old canoe with one paddle, the wolves are getting closer, you rather have had been able to use the other two boats, but you can see the wolves closing in you, so you climb into that dirty old canoe and paddle away.

Sorry Ron, we need to live to fight another day first.

Except that what you were told was a canoe is really a fraud. It's so full of holes that it sinks as soon as you get in. It was placed there by those very same wolves to make you think you'll be "safe". But it's a fraud. Unfortunately, not every one can see it. Thank God we have dr Paul's clear vision.

 

[William Tell]

If your being chased by rabid wolves and you come to a body of water with 3 boats, and you try the first boat because it's the best it's a shinny speed boat, but it just won't start. So you get out and try the next one it's a fishing boat with small motor but it won't start either, lastly there is a rusty old canoe with one paddle, the wolves are getting closer, you rather have had been able to use the other two boats, but you can see the wolves closing in you, so you climb into that dirty old canoe and paddle away.

Exactly, you try to get away. You don't hire one of the wolves as your guide!

 

[ProBlue33]

The wolves are not Trump, but Hillary and her corrupt ideology she will serve to America.
I agree that canoe might not be safe, but it is still floating when you get in it and put some weight into it.
It's not ideal for sure.

 

[CaptUSA]

The wolves are not Trump, but Hillary and her corrupt ideology she will serve to America.
I agree that canoe might not be safe, but it is still floating when you get in it and put some weight into it.
It's not ideal for sure.

You're buying the con. We can't help you. Like Ron Paul is telling you, Trump is a fraud. Not maybe. Is.

 

[ProBlue33]

Actually no I get that Trump is a 99% con artist.
I also know his ego is so huge he will try to be successful, he will be a legacy guy trying to protect the Trump name for his kids.

He will be a......

If you don't understand the reference, I will let another GOT watcher explain it

 

[CaptUSA]

Yeah, I think you need to turn off your TV.

 

[orafi]

Yeah, I think you need to turn off your TV.

He could still read the books that the show is (loosely) based on.

 

[ProBlue33]

Yeah, I think you need to turn off your TV.

That's funny, since my TV is currently unplugged and my cable is disconnected.

 

[William Tell]

Actually no I get that Trump is a 99% con artist.
I also know his ego is so huge he will try to be successful, he will be a legacy guy trying to protect the Trump name for his kids.

In other words, you know he's a con artist but you still buy into his con. Ego does not cause people to do the right thing.

 

[robert68]

We have Walter Block, Massie, Raimondo, Peter Thiel and other prominent libertarians on-board with Trump.
...

Libertarian packaging for the frustrated mostly, not content of package. Has Walter Block disbanded "Libertarians for Trump" yet, like he said he would if he got the nomination?

 

[ProBlue33]

Ego does not cause people to do the right thing.

It does if you are trying to establish a positive legacy before your time is up on this planet, for your kids and grandkids, if family is important to you, and family is very important to Trump, they are tight.

The fact is, how this is to be done and how quickly, is a legitimate point of debate amongst RPF members.

 

[William Tell]

It does if you are trying to establish a positive legacy before your time is up on this planet, for your kids and grandkids, if family is important to you, and family is very important to Trump, they are tight.

That is such nonsense. But I hear it from Trump supporters all the time, I can't believe how stupid of an argument it is. Who are the presidents with the greatest perceived legacies? The worst of the worst, the powerful, the abusers of the Constitution. Lincoln, FDR etc. None of the "great" leaders of the world are considered great due to their goodness and kindness. Alexander the Great is a good example, he was considered great because of his intervention.

 

[CaptUSA]

That is such nonsense. But I hear it from Trump supporters all the time, I can't believe how stupid of an argument it is. Who are the presidents with the greatest perceived legacies? The worst of the worst, the powerful, the abusers of the Constitution. Lincoln, FDR etc. None of the "great" leaders of the world are considered great do to their goodness and kindness. Alexander the Great is a good example, he was considered great because of his intervention.

^^this. + rep!