Ron Paul speaks about Bob Barr:

[BKom]

What else does Ron Paul need to do? French kiss the dude? COME ON! I don't have enough fingers and toes to count all the times Ron Paul has said something POSITIVE about Bob Barr. WAKE UP! Do you value what Ron Paul says or don't you? Please decide! But Ron Paul cannot be more clear on the subject. I mean for a group that claims to support Ron Paul so much, you people certainly are quite dismissive of what Ron Paul has to say about Bob Barr. Bob Barr is definitively worthy. So says Ron Paul. Now move on.

I cannot support statist Bob Barr. And pretty soon, you will all be in on the joke. What joke is that, you ask? It goes like this.

He gets his behind kicked in the election, barely being noticed and eeking out about 1 percent of the vote. Then, he tells everyone he was just messing with you. He was never a "Libertarian." "Those people are a bunch of druggies and baby killers" he'll intone solemnly into the microphone.

I've seen this before. And you can book it. The man is not a Libertarian and certainly not a small "L" libertarian. And when he scrambles back to the R party, you'll feel used and abused and really stupid. In fact, Ron Paul ran as a Libertarian BECAUSE he was a libertarian. Bob Barr is a statist, conservative, drug warrior Republican. What exactly don't you get about that?

"LINO" = Libertarian In Name Only. Get used to it.
"WINO" = An Alcoholic
"WHINO" = A Libertarian who votes for Bob Barr then discovers he's been had.

Suggestion: Sit out the presidential line on the ballot this year. No vote is better than a vote for any statist. It seriously will not make a difference in the result. But your soul will not shrivel to a raisin. Stay in the Republican Party and take it over. Become the chairpeople. Swing the gavel on the next conventions. Encourage limited government constitutionalists to run in the Republican Party and help them get elected. Keep at it until every Huckabee and Giuliani-loving member of the party is whining because they don't know where their "democratic-lite" party went. Then, and only then, will this election cycle have meant something.

And as for Ron liking Bob Barr. Big Deal. We all have a lot of affection for Dr. Paul. I've personally worked for him twice now, 1988 and 2008. But one thing we've all learned about Ron is that he is right on the issues, and very bad at strategy and people. His judgment of who is fit for office is slightly less important than throwing darts at the voting machine. Nobody is perfect, and this is and has always been his achilles heel. He has surrounded himself with people who have shown poor judgment. And he has given his support to others who are not worthy. And anyone who has been paying attention to the campaign and Ron's part in it has to have seen this or they simply haven't been honest with themselves.

I have no problem with someone supporting Bob Barr. I won't do it. But that's my individual choice. But those who support him should do it with their eyes open. And what Ron thinks of him means nothing to me.

 

[Menthol Patch]

Bob Barr is a neocon warmonger that supported the war in Iraq, the Patriot Act, refuses to openly support a complete end to the war on drugs, and supports the ABOMINATION called the "Fair Tax."

I will NEVER support Bob Barr.

He is NOT a Libertarian.

 

[Menthol Patch]

And if the neocon Bob Barr lovers don't like what I just said....

Too bad.

 

[countrykidz4freedom]

Ron Paul will not endorse anyone because he believes people should use their own minds about choosing who to vote for. When I heard him state this (in his words) I again admired him for his consistency. He also said something about not believing in telling people from the top down who they should vote for-(I had at first hoped he would endorse Chuck Baldwin), but when I heard him say that, my respect for him just grew even more.

Bob Barr will not be getting the vote from the 3 voters in this household. Furthermore, in order to give others a choice, (but without great hope of achieving much) we are telling everyone about Chuck Baldwin, although we still long for a miracle to happen so we can have Ron Paul for the next president. No one else compares or measures up to him. So the way I see it, if we can't have Ron Paul, we all lose on the one hand, but as long as we hang in there and keep the revolution going strong, we will see good come out of it, especially if we are proactive at the local levels.

 

[Menthol Patch]

Ron Paul has my respect but I have ZERO for Bob Barr.

My respect for Bob Barr would BEGIN to grow by 1% if he would record an apology to all the innocent people in prison that are there due to the drug laws he supported and then post it to Youtube.

But that will never happen because Bob Barr is a neocon big government monster.

 

[countrykidz4freedom]

Bob Barr is a neocon warmonger that supported the war in Iraq, the Patriot Act, refuses to openly support a complete end to the war on drugs, and supports the ABOMINATION called the "Fair Tax."

our suspicions exactly, added to the fact that the media appears to be ,more warm & open to him, which once again sends off alerts in my head of "What is he REALLY about?"

I will never just blindly believe someone again when they proclaim themselves to be something-I have to see it proven first by their actions-I'm from the Show Me State.

 

[Adam Smith]

Baldwin '08*

*I would write in RP but in Georgia it would be recorded as a spoiled ballot. RP can't be a write-in because he ran in the Republican primary and lost. Georgia ballot access laws suck.

 

[mrchubbs]

Ron Paul has my respect but I have ZERO for Bob Barr.

My respect for Bob Barr would BEGIN to grow by 1% if he would record an apology to all the innocent people in prison that are there due to the drug laws he supported and then post it to Youtube.

But that will never happen because Bob Barr is a neocon big government monster.

Just because you repeat it doesn't make it true.

Bob Barr has said...

1 - The Drug War is a Failure.
2 - The Patriot Act should be repealed and has campaigned for it's repeal.
3 - He wants to bring home our troops from South Korea, Iraq, Japan, and Europe.
4 - He would get rid of the Fed if he could.

If you think these are the policies of a Neo-con, then Ron Paul is a Neo-con.

He has continually denounced his votes of yesteryear. People can change. Many people who are long time libertarians believe Barr is sincere in his transformation. I am one of them.

Sometimes I wonder if people actually care about spreading the liberty message or if they only care about remaining in their pure little Ron Paul club house with a handwritten sign on the door saying "Libertee Iz onlee fer us. Newcomerz Not welcum."


Enjoy.

 

[qh4dotcom]

The negativity is not doing the Revolution any good. Ron Paul HAS and DOES say positive things about Bob Barr. Stop with the grudge junk...it is counter productive! As long as Bob Barr is "speaking our language" (Ron Pauls words) he is doing a GOOD THING. This is RIDICULOUS...same with Chuck Baldwin...he is speaking the language...we NEED more and more people to do this and the negativity will only TEAR DOWN the REVOLUTION. My mama taught me "If you don't have anything nice to say...be silent!" TONES

Reminds me about the Hillary angry, bitter white women who say that they will vote for McCain and ignore Hillary's endorsement and request to support the Democratic nominee. Ron Paul supporters who oppose Barr are engaging in the same type of behavior.

 

[Maltheus]

First off, Bob Barr was never really a neo-con, so please stop smearing him with that. And let's try to ease off on the attacks, lest we discourage others from joining the Libertarian party. He may be genuine in his conversion, so we should give him a chance to prove himself. And even though I'm more of a Baldwin guy, I wish Barr good luck all the same.

Also, Ron Paul should not endorse anyone. I would understand if he endorsed Baldwin, given their connection, but Paul's job now is to bring over as many people as will come, for as close as they will come over. He should be working to expand our movement beyond any cult of personality. And I think this is precisely what he is doing. Sowing seeds.

 

[OceanMachine7]

Out of curiosity, for those denouncing Barr:

Let's say Barr gets elected to office, is able to reduce spending, and pull many (if not all) troops home from overseas.

In short, does pretty much what he's saying, smaller government, but incrementally smaller.

Would you vote for his reelection?

 

[Fox McCloud]

Out of curiosity, for those denouncing Barr:

Let's say Barr gets elected to office, is able to reduce spending, and pull many (if not all) troops home from overseas.

In short, does pretty much what he's saying, smaller government, but incrementally smaller.

Would you vote for his reelection?

if he did all the things Ron Paul would do, then yes.

Has he even addressed the dollar and the Federal Reserve though? That's the #1 issue for me.

 

[qh4dotcom]

Bob Barr supports the ABOMINATION called the "Fair Tax."

I will NEVER support Bob Barr.

He is NOT a Libertarian.

So does Ron Paul

http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=news_presScorecard

http://easylink.playstream.com/fairtax/RonPaul-FairTax.wvx

 

[Fox McCloud]

So does Ron Paul

http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=news_presScorecard

http://easylink.playstream.com/fairtax/RonPaul-FairTax.wvx

he said it was a "reasonable alternative" if I recall, but overall he'd much rather have it revoked.

 

[OceanMachine7]

if he did all the things Ron Paul would do, then yes.

Has he even addressed the dollar and the Federal Reserve though? That's the #1 issue for me.

Sure, but it hasn't been a point of emphasis. Mainly because it doesn't resonate with Joe Voter very much.

Trying watching his hour-long with Glenn Beck. I think there's a question in there about it somewhere.

 

[OptionsTrader]

First off, Bob Barr was never really a neo-con, so please stop smearing him with that.

Yes, he was/is.

Barr voted for the Patriot Act (twice)
Barr voted for the Iraq war, and is now an accessory to killing over 1 million people
Barr voted for no child left behind
Barr voted for the Iraq liberation act of 1998
Barr voted for the $159 billion medicare prescription drug bill
Barr voted for the Anti-Terrorism Act giving govt broadened surveillance powers
Barr voted to create the Department of Homeland Security

 

[Fox McCloud]

Sure, but it hasn't been a point of emphasis. Mainly because it doesn't resonate with Joe Voter very much.

Trying watching his hour-long with Glenn Beck. I think there's a question in there about it somewhere.

if it's not his main focus, and just an "aside" issue, that doesn't make me happy much--both Ron Paul and Baldwin have made the Fed a poignant point in their campaign.

 

[Maltheus]

Yes, he was/is.

Barr voted for the Patriot Act (twice)
Barr voted for the Iraq war, and is now an accessory to killing over 1 million people
Barr voted for no child left behind
Barr voted for the Iraq liberation act of 1998
Barr voted for the $159 billion medicare prescription drug bill
Barr voted for the Anti-Terrorism Act giving govt broadened surveillance powers
Barr voted to create the Department of Homeland Security

Perhaps, but I think he was just voting with the party and the party was voting with the neo-cons. I don't think I can forgive him this quickly for those votes, but I don't seem him as part of the neo-con clique. He's a neo-con in the way all Republicans are now neo-cons, but I don't think he descends from that Trotskyite core that the Bush cronies descend from. Of course, I could be wrong on that.

 

[SteveMartin]

We must all push for a PATRIOT SUMMIT with Barr, Paul and Baldwin and strategize as to who will be the top of the INDEPENDENT TICKET, who will be the running mate, and what cabinet position the 3rd person will take, AND WE MUST DO IT NOW!

 

[LibertyCzar]

And as for Ron liking Bob Barr. Big Deal. We all have a lot of affection for Dr. Paul. I've personally worked for him twice now, 1988 and 2008. But one thing we've all learned about Ron is that he is right on the issues, and very bad at strategy and people. His judgment of who is fit for office is slightly less important than throwing darts at the voting machine. Nobody is perfect, and this is and has always been his achilles heel. He has surrounded himself with people who have shown poor judgment. And he has given his support to others who are not worthy. And anyone who has been paying attention to the campaign and Ron's part in it has to have seen this or they simply haven't been honest with themselves.

If this is true, then you must not have anything nice to say about Ron Paul's new group. He plans to work to elect candidates. I suppose you won't support them either, if you think Ron Paul's judgment is so poor. And if you think Ron Paul's judgment is indeed so poor, then why do you even support him in the first place?